Spencer vs Spex

[FlightTL]

Let's say both Spencer and Spex decide they no longer want to take finasteride:

1. Who would have more hair loss?
2. Whose hair would look more natural? Remember that Spex had multiple hair transplants.


** This is an interesting topic because since Spencer has taken finasteride for so long, there might be a chance that he no longer reacts to DHT like a beginning stage hair loss sufferer. Maybe his hair follicles have become immune to dht due to long term medication use.

Also, note that if Spex stops finasteride, his HT will give him coverage up top, but will this transplanted hair thin???

[Jcm800]

I wonder as well, as Spex has had a lot of restoration work done to his hair, i wonder how he praises Fin so highly, he can't see what it's done for him? Or maybe he can - Spex, how can you tell what Fin has done for you?

[mpb47]

** This is an interesting topic because since Spencer has taken finasteride for so long, there might be a chance that he no longer reacts to DHT like a beginning stage hair loss sufferer. Maybe his hair follicles have become immune to dht due to long term medication use.

While I don't know if there is any scientific basis for that theory, I wonder if there is some truth to that.

My main hair loss started around 36 and was very fast. Got on propecia and stayed on it for about 4 years. It worked really well. I have been off of it for years and noticed that my loss, while it certainly has restarted, has never been as fast as it was before propecia. Could be coincidence, not really sure, but just thought I would throw that out there.

[Spex]

Hi,
Finasteride has certainly helped me a great deal and definitely helped prevent further loss in the mid crown region over the last 13 years.
If i were to stop it i do not know where my hair loss would progress to ( scary thought ) , but based on my hair loss in my early 20's before any surgery or finasteride ( see pic below )
i think it would certainly be way worse off than i am now. The second pic shows the areas benefitted by HT's and meds. I got my trait from my mothers side and my grandfather was full blown Nw6 in mid twenties and lost his hair in the same pattern as me, in the front initially, and then through the mid crown over the space of a couple years. Therefore chances are i would have followed him unfortunately. Hope this helps.
Regards
Spex

[northeastguy]

Perfect.... then we agree, both will cease taking Fin...

[Spex]

Perfect.... then we agree, both will cease taking Fin...

I definitely will not be stopping Finasteride.

Best
Spex

[Jcm800]

I definitely will not be stopping Finasteride.

Best
Spex

Is there anything at all negative you have to say about Fin Spex? Your experience has been trouble free over the years with it?

[northeastguy]

I definitely will not be stopping Finasteride.

Best
Spex

... I hope you realize I was joking.

@ jcm.... I can say I did have side effects. Enough for me to stop completely.

[Jcm800]

Thanks northeastguy, shame. Seems such a gamble taking it.

[Spex]

I did dectect some sarcasm lol

I personally have had no negative experiences with finasteride, only positive.

I have not experienced any ( known ) side effects, however i appreciate that's not the case for everyone.

I hope this helps.
Best
Spex

[Jcm800]

I did dectect some sarcasm lol

I personally have had no negative experiences with finasteride, only positive.

I have not experienced any ( known ) side effects, however i appreciate that's not the case for everyone.

I hope this helps.
Best
Spex

From me? I hope not. I'm genuinely making enquiries.

[UK_]

I did dectect some sarcasm lol

I personally have had no negative experiences with finasteride, only positive.

I have not experienced any ( known ) side effects, however i appreciate that's not the case for everyone.

I hope this helps.
Best
Spex

But what do you think generally of individuals who state this drug has literally permanently castrated them?/destroyed their sex lives & erectile function?

What worries me is the idiocy of Merck generally, because in 1997 they stated that they believed DHT had no real role to play in the male human body.

I mean, wtf? How can a company this large make such a colossal mistake? (I always say, if ENRON can, anyone can).

Anyway Spex, I have always respected and appreciated your contribution to the hair loss community, I wish we could all have the same experience with Finasteride that you enjoy, because your documented progress gives hope to those even in the 'significant' stages of hair loss (NW 4/5).

[Jcm800]

Absolutely UK. Agree with what you say above. Seeing the results Spex has had really inspires me to go down that road, I'd like to think I could benefit.

But it's the risk of long term sides that worry me so much.

[UK_]

Also Spex, do you feel finasteride has had NO physiological (does not have to be visible) effects on the hair located in the temporal regions of the scalp?

[UK_]

Absolutely UK. Agree with what you say above. Seeing the results Spex has had really inspires me to go down that road, I'd like to think I could benefit.

But it's the risk of long term sides that worry me so much.

Yes, I totally understand what you're saying, but the cold truth of the matter is this:

If you decide not to go ahead with Fin, then you will always wonder what could have been, then on the other hand you have the obvious reality of inducing the side effects experienced by those members of propeciahelp.

It's a pretty shitty situation, the one thing I can say however, is that Merck were COMPLETELY WRONG to make the assertion that DHT has no use in the ADULT male human body, that has to be the most ridiculous medical assertion I have ever heard.

JCM, if you want to know what really scared me off Fin, it's when MEW (the administrator of propeciahelp.com) posted links of the effects of castrated rats and finasteride-induced rats on erectile function, when you read the results, it's as if the FIN-induced rats were on crutches (testosterone without DHT) when it came to maintaining physiological penile function.

DHT is a very, very powerful androgen that has a significant role to play in the male human body.