My Finasteride Story so far...

[Jcm800]

Desmond am I missing something? Why were you dissolving 0.5 in ethanol? Could you just split the pill with a cutter and swallow it?

[Dan26]

Desmond am I missing something? Why were you dissolving 0.5 in ethanol? Could you just split the pill with a cutter and swallow it?

Jcm he was talking about 0.05mg. And Desmond, I believe it is soluble in lower level alcohols. Dissolving in something like vodka may even work. My plan was to dissolve 2-3mg, make a .1% solution, and injest 0.5ml.

[Dan26]

Keep in mind, serum DHT is dropping because Scalp DHT is dropping. Serum DHT is spillover DHT from the organs, so even if you have a local inhibitor of DHT, there should still be declines in serum as less is going into bloodstream.

You should try out topical fin in ethanol, don't just judge it by serum DHT levels. Try out a little bit and see what happens I guess.

Good idea/point KO. I am already using RU so electing to go oral with the low dose fin. And I got CB on the way lol. Problem for me is applying to my entire NW6 area with only RU/CB is hard and damn expensive. Lowering DHT systemically will be nice boost so I wont have to go ham on my dome topically.

[KO1]

Good idea/point KO. I am already using RU so electing to go oral with the low dose fin. And I got CB on the way lol. Problem for me is applying to my entire NW6 area with only RU/CB is hard and damn expensive. Lowering DHT systemically will be nice boost so I wont have to go ham on my dome topically.

Yeah, IMO that's the benefit of a systemic drug, with a topical you may miss areas that are not visibly thinning, but still susceptible to MPB. So do both.

[Dan26]

Yeah, IMO that's the benefit of a systemic drug, with a topical you may miss areas that are not visibly thinning, but still susceptible to MPB. So do both.

Exactly. If you are losing hair and can lower your DHT systemically without any/much negative effects, no reason not to do it!

[Dan26]

Actually I tried the 0.05mg/day very early on! The trouble is Finasteride is NOT water-soluble and you have to dissolve it in Ethanol! I started getting the sides immediately which meant that it was working but the ethanol in it was also giving me indigestion and I've never suffered from indigestion before albeit I'm not a heavy drinker!

So yeah, I guess you can try it! 0.05mg every 3 days should still save your hair guaranteed and those studies you posted definitely confirm it! I used the same studies to come up with 0.25mg TWICE A WEEK

Let me know if you need help calculating the dose and amount of ethanol.

Good luck!

Hey Desmond, I read that finasteride is soluble in lower alchohol solvents and practically insoluble in water, but also saw that it is its soluble in water at 11.7mg/liter??
What I planned to do was crush a 1mg propecia pill into 10ml of Vodka and take 0.5ml, do you think this would work??
Thanks man.

[KO1]

Don't use vodka. Vodka barely has any alcohol. Try to get ethanol, or something like Everclear.

[Dan26]

Don't use vodka. Vodka barely has any alcohol. Try to get ethanol, or something like Everclear.

Im in Canada and would have to travel to another province or go to the states to get everclear. Im gonna look for whatever has the highest alcohol content at my local liquor store, I know vodka is 40%.

[Desmond84]

Hey Desmond, I read that finasteride is soluble in lower alchohol solvents and practically insoluble in water, but also saw that it is its soluble in water at 11.7mg/liter??
What I planned to do was crush a 1mg propecia pill into 10ml of Vodka and take 0.5ml, do you think this would work??
Thanks man.

Hey Dan,

Go into your local Pharmacy and ask the Pharmacist for it! They may keep some in the back where they compound creams and ointments.

In Australia, almost all Pharmacists keep some in the back of dispensary. I'm sure Canada's the same.

If they didn't give it to you try the Vodka technique...its OK

[Dan26]

Hey Dan,

Go into your local Pharmacy and ask the Pharmacist for it! They may keep some in the back where they compound creams and ointments.

In Australia, almost all Pharmacists keep some in the back of dispensary. I'm sure Canada's the same.

If they didn't give it to you try the Vodka technique...its OK

Ohh k thanks a lot man. I wouldn't have high hopes for them giving me ethanol, but no harm in asking I suppose! You do think vodka may do the trick though? I dont mind wasting a bit of the vodka and even the propecia especially since im using such a small amount and one 1mg pill would take me a long way. I'd probably do weekly batches to air on the safe side and just dump the rest after the week is done.

[Desmond84]

Yeah give it a shot

So you have to crush the tablet first! The finer it is the faster it dissolves. Then add it to your your Vodka/Ethanol. Close the bottle and shake it for a minute or so and voila you're done!

Keep in mind that some of ingredients (fillers, etc) will not dissolve and will sediment to the bottom. That's OK...The finasteride should have dissolved regardless.

Good luck brother and keep me posted

[Dan26]

Yeah give it a shot

So you have to crush the tablet first! The finer it is the faster it dissolves. Then add it to your your Vodka/Ethanol. Close the bottle and shake it for a minute or so and voila you're done!

Keep in mind that some of ingredients (fillers, etc) will not dissolve and will sediment to the bottom. That's OK...The finasteride should have dissolved regardless.

Good luck brother and keep me posted

Thanks broski! Will definitely keep you posted, may start a log soon after I have my regimen clickin on all cylinders.

[hiilikeyourbeard]

taking the plunge tuesday ladies. wish me luck eh?

[mpb47]

Hey FTL

Yeah man...that's exactly how I started, the first few months I was taking 0.25mg/week at some points and hairs still OK! Don't rush it! All this pain is from your prostate slightly shrinking in size...the slower you proceed with Fin dosing the less the sides!

Take it easy with dosing and increase slowly!

Desmond,

I started to try something like .25 infrequently last year but chickened out.
Were you able to do .25 a week with NO sides? And was this enough to stop mpb?

I was on it for 4-5 years and had very good results, both front and back, but got sides at that point. On minox alone I am slowly getting worse and running out of time, but if I could do .25 a week and not feel it, I would be back on it in a heartbeat.

Thanks!

[irishpotatoes322]

Desmond,

I started to try something like .25 infrequently last year but chickened out.
Were you able to do .25 a week with NO sides? And was this enough to stop mpb?

I was on it for 4-5 years and had very good results, both front and back, but got sides at that point. On minox alone I am slowly getting worse and running out of time, but if I could do .25 a week and not feel it, I would be back on it in a heartbeat.

Thanks!

I would bet if you got sides from .25 every other day or every third day, that those sides would either subside to a manageable degree with continued use as your body adapts, or disappear altogether within a few weeks of stopping medication if you so choose.

I was taking a 16th of a proscar pill every third, and sometimes every fourth day (approx .3mg) for a month and started seeing results (no scalp itch, hardly any hairs falling out, and hair just felt healthy in general). Unfortunately, I still had slight brain fog / about 20% less erection strength. Could those sides have gone away if I stayed on? Possibly, who knows? What I do know is that since being off for a few weeks I feel absolutely amazing, I can always tell the difference between being on finasteride and being off in terms of 1) energy 2) mental focus 3) sense of self / calmness, not a chance its a placebo lol. Believe me, I'm still telling myself that I would like to try finasteride again at some point in the near future. I just want to make sure that when I do start, i'm doing everything I can to optimize my hormones.

I'll probably do this routine:
50mg zinc in the morning, 50mg zinc at night with 2mg copper and some magnesium
Toco-sorb
Regenpure
Nettle root extract (apparently slight aromatase inihibtor, and helps test not bind to shbg, and since dht is being inhibited, nettle in conjunction with finasteride should in theory mean just more T, which could be enough to offset sexual sides)
Biotin
Minoxidil at night followed with a little bit of emu oil


All that stuff is pretty cheap when considering the steal of a price for generic propecia, so yeah, totally worth a shot imo.

I just have no idea what I can do to counter brain fog, don't really feel like buying transdermal pregnenolone lol.