My hairloss situation

[Aames]

Hair>>>>>>>>>>>Sex>>>>>>>>>>>Insects, snakes, etc.>>>>>Children

[dex89]

It can make you infertile.

I remember reading some doctors wouldn't even prescribe it to people that ever planned to have kids.
I've read about birth defects too, use google.

Fin is one thing, but Dut is a WHOLE other level, think twice before you take such a strong medicine.

I'll look into it and might reconsider, thanks itsmyhairs.

[drybone]

Thanks for the feedback. I do want kids, I love kids. How would DUT affect me from having one?

There has been no reports of infertility caused by fin. There are some guys (less than .1%) who say they cant have kids now, but none of them had kids before and proved the fin was the sole cause of why they could not produce good swimmers.

I do have to agree with the alarmists (I cant believe I am writing this) that DUT is a totally different animal altogether. Its far more powerful and stays in your system way longer. It blocks both conversions of T to DHT.

I dont know if they have long term studies on this but my common sense tells me if you want kids to stay away from it for now.

Just my .02

[dex89]

There has been no reports of infertility caused by fin. There are some guys (less than .1&#37 who say they cant have kids now, but none of them had kids before and proved the fin was the sole cause of why they could not produce good swimmers.

I do have to agree with the alarmists (I cant believe I am writing this) that DUT is a totally different animal altogether. Its far more powerful and stays in your system way longer. It blocks both conversions of T to DHT.

I dont know if they have long term studies on this but my common sense tells me if you want kids to stay away from it for now.

Just my .02

I really do believe FIN won't cause infertility. I seen numerous threads where men have taking FIN and produced a healthy kids, like Sir Spex for an example.

Has for DUT, its a bit tricky, I really do need to think about this. If I do take DUT, I can always adopt a child but then again what if my future spouse wants a child of her own. Dam, I have to think this threw some more but thanks for your .02 mate

[itsmyhairs]

You have great hair, Dex.

Chances are, worst case scenario here, you stopped using ALL treatments, what'd happen?

You'd probably be a NW3 at worst by the time you're 40 and by then there'll be better treatments, better HT's anyway.
There's no point risking not having kids or other serious sides with DUT.

[Exodus]

How easy is it to get Avodart in the US? I think in the UK you can't, getting Fin legitimately is a hassle.

[Aames]

How easy is it to get Avodart in the US? I think in the UK you can't, getting Fin legitimately is a hassle.

Online, it is extremely easy. Legitimately, I think it's a bit harder but doable. I believe 25 going on 65 convinced his doctor to do it and I believe he is from the US.

[drybone]

I have an off question.

What is this 'RU' that you guys keep talking about?

[Aames]

I have an off question.

What is this 'RU' that you guys keep talking about?

RU58841. It's an experimental treatment that never made it to market since it is unstable in solution and thus has to mixed with a vehicle in a fresh batch every day or week at the latest. You also have to keep it in your freezer. Some people order it from chemical supply companies and mix it up themselves. It's probably the best topical DHT-inhibitor "available." The researchers said it worked about as well as fin, if not better. There are some on other forums that have maintained on just RU for a few years now.

[drybone]

RU58841. It's an experimental treatment that never made it to market since it is unstable in solution and thus has to mixed with a vehicle in a fresh batch every day or week at the latest. You also have to keep it in your freezer. Some people order it from chemical supply companies and mix it up themselves. It's probably the best topical DHT-inhibitor "available." The researchers said it worked about as well as fin, if not better. There are some on other forums that have maintained on just RU for a few years now.

Wow. Cool.

Is it stronger than DUT ?

How are the sides?

[BigThinker]

How easy is it to get Avodart in the US? I think in the UK you can't, getting Fin legitimately is a hassle.

It's a dice roll if you're not certain the physician is competent. I saw a GP who didn't know shit, then I was a derm who not only had me fill out a 4 page questionnaire directed at MPB, but also offered me fin the same day.

I think the bigger issue is whether or not you can get 5mg generics.

[drybone]

It's a dice roll if you're not certain the physician is competent. I saw a GP who didn't know shit, then I was a derm who not only had me fill out a 4 page questionnaire directed at MPB, but also offered me fin the same day.

I think the bigger issue is whether or not you can get 5mg generics.

This is what I have. 5mg finasteride. CVS has it in stock everywhere. Ask the doc for that.

[Aames]

Wow. Cool.

Is it stronger than DUT ?

How are the sides?

I doubt it but we can't really be sure. Not a lot of data but the studies done prove it is effective. Anecdotal evidence points at it being pretty damn good though. Few, if any, people notice sides. I don't believe it's absorbed systemically. If you're interested in finding a source, let me know. I can direct you to the one that a lot of people on HLH and *** use since most chem suppliers now require a license.

[drybone]

I doubt it but we can't really be sure. Not a lot of data but the studies done prove it is effective. Anecdotal evidence points at it being pretty damn good though. Few, if any, people notice sides. I don't believe it's absorbed systemically. If you're interested in finding a source, let me know. I can direct you to the one that a lot of people on HLH and *** use since most chem suppliers now require a license.

Sure I am

shoot me a private message and I will go see if I can pick some up. If I can maintain the hair I have now, plus my transplant i had and another HT to clean up the density, I will be set for life.

[drybone]

Ok thanks dude.