Aames' Dutasteride Log

[Woodyy]

Sorry if this has been answered already mate but how long did dutasteride take to stop your shedding? And how many hairs were you losing then vs now?

I think mine came today but I'm gonna have to go down to the post office collection thing to get it tomorrow.

I'm pretty sick of still losing hair, I'm not losing loads, seems like 50 a day at most, but the majority of that seems to be coming from the hairline which definitely isn't normal.

[WarLord]

Yeah, I was a bit surprised when the reference range they gave was so large. I'm not sure if it was for males in general or my age group. If it was my age group, it doesn't make much sense like you said. In any case, I'm just glad mine are very low.

In any case, I would recommend you to stick with the lab. Different labs produce different results. Sometimes the numbers differ by as much as 100%.

[Whitehart]

Wow, I'm just astounded at this thread, you're in essence chemically castrating yourself (potentially permanently) because you think your NW1.1 hairline is on its way to NW7 with 100% certainty.

Here's some advice: swap your pharmacist for a psychologist.

Lolz.

In all seriousness, good luck.

[Aames]

The DHT level (2.7 ng/dl) is trustworthy (that would be something like 95% suppression), but the reference range is weird. The average DHT level in adult men is about 45-50 ng/dl with a usual range 30-85 ng/dl. 10 ng/dl is the level of 10-years old boys.

Yeah, I was a bit surprised when the reference range they gave was so large. I'm not sure if it was for males in general or my age group. If it was my age group, it doesn't make much sense like you said. In any case, I'm just glad mine are very low.

[WarLord]

Great news, everyone. Looks like my duta (Dr. Reddy's Dutas) is completely real and I am responding to it. Let this be another confirmation of inhouse's legitimacy. My only hope is that this reduction is enough to halt my hair loss and provide regrowth. This is probably the last update I will do until the 6th month mark, unless anyone has any questions of me.

EDIT: I realized it was a bit hard to see. My DHT is 26.9 pg/mL with a reference range of 106.0 to 719.0. Obviously well below the standard for my age. Estradiol was normal.

The DHT level (2.7 ng/dl) is trustworthy (that would be something like 95% suppression), but the reference range is weird. The average DHT level in adult men is about 45-50 ng/dl with a usual range 30-85 ng/dl. 10 ng/dl is the level of 10-years old boys.

[Aames]

That's great to hear, man, keep us updated.

I'm Norwood 1.5 at one temple, maybe closing in on a 2, other temple has no recession but I can feel it thinning.

Been on fin nearly 3 months now and the one temple I do have recession on has receded even more, been on nizoral for a few months too.

My dut should be here in a week or so, spiro cream is on its way and I'll continue using niz, not to sure on minoxidil at the moment, might reserve that for if I need something extra in the future.

I know it's stupid going on dutasteride this early but I just hate knowing there's something out there that could be doing a better job than what I'm currenty using, fin gave me no sides and I have no reason to believe dut will either. A lower libido might be useful at this point anyway, I just want to concentrate on gym and university until the summer.

I'm using dr reddy's dutasteride after I saw your thread on your blood work confirming it's legit (might even be in this thread, I can't remember), its authenticity was my only worry about ordering it before.

Your reasoning is the exact reasoning that I used when choosing to start duta. It was torturing me knowing that I could get better results and even regrowth by using something stronger. I figured I had nothing to lose. Best of luck to you; keep me updated. I am very glad that someone found my blood-work useful. While I certainly did it out of self-interest, it makes me happy that it could benefit others.

[Woodyy]

That's great to hear, man, keep us updated.

I'm Norwood 1.5 at one temple, maybe closing in on a 2, other temple has no recession but I can feel it thinning.

Been on fin nearly 3 months now and the one temple I do have recession on has receded even more, been on nizoral for a few months too.

My dut should be here in a week or so, spiro cream is on its way and I'll continue using niz, not to sure on minoxidil at the moment, might reserve that for if I need something extra in the future.

I know it's stupid going on dutasteride this early but I just hate knowing there's something out there that could be doing a better job than what I'm currenty using, fin gave me no sides and I have no reason to believe dut will either. A lower libido might be useful at this point anyway, I just want to concentrate on gym and university until the summer.

I'm using dr reddy's dutasteride after I saw your thread on your blood work confirming it's legit (might even be in this thread, I can't remember), its authenticity was my only worry about ordering it before.

[Aames]

So how it is going?

Cant wait for my dutasteride to come.

Going strong, man. No sides to report. My shedding seems to really be down (see my other thread on the first page; confused about where I'm at but seem to be far better than most others in terms of hair fall). I have definitely maintained at the least in terms of recession. My temples are COVERED in darkened vellus hairs which really gives me hope. I'll post pics at the 6th month mark.

So you've decided to go on duta too? Norwood and previous treatments?

[Woodyy]

So how it is going?

Cant wait for my dutasteride to come.

[Aames]

How well do you think topical dut would work?

I've heard some very positive results. Apparently there's a book called "Double A" or something, where the guy claims he regrew a very significant amount of hair using a topical mixture of 0.5 mg Avodart and a shot-glass of aloe (hence, double A). Truthfully, since there's no trials or anything, we can't be certain whether oral duta would have given him the same results. Some speculate that it could work better since it could reduce scalp DHT more than oral, but I think it just gets absorbed systemically anyway, so I'm not so sure.

I'd be surprised too, well more bummed out than surprised. My reaction would be more like "Damn, this didn't work either!?". I don't use Keto shampoo, but i'm thinking about it. I've used it before but the 1% one, and I have Keto 2% cream, somewhere around my room. If I get back on Keto shampoo it will have to be 2%, because I saw nothing with 1%.

If anything I rather add Retin A cream, than Keto. Because if Keto just works like minoxidil, then I don't see why I should use it. Better Retin A to help Minoxidil penetrate better.

Well keto differs from minox in that it has anti-DHT properties. But yeah, it is totally supplemental and standalone results would probably be minimal at best. I use it just to be safe.

[25 going on 65]

From what I understand the mechanism of minox is different than keto shampoo. These treatments can work together & are not necessarily redundant.
Keto is more of a supporting treatment but I figure we need all the help we can get

[PatientlyWaiting]

I'd be surprised too, well more bummed out than surprised. My reaction would be more like "Damn, this didn't work either!?". I don't use Keto shampoo, but i'm thinking about it. I've used it before but the 1% one, and I have Keto 2% cream, somewhere around my room. If I get back on Keto shampoo it will have to be 2%, because I saw nothing with 1%.

If anything I rather add Retin A cream, than Keto. Because if Keto just works like minoxidil, then I don't see why I should use it. Better Retin A to help Minoxidil penetrate better.

[25 going on 65]

I'm going to do the same, I won't update my thread until I see improvement worth posting. My initial goal is once I hit 6 months, if there's some good improvement, I will update it with before and after pictures. The before pictures will be from March 15th and March 29th. I have 13 days on dut, and about 11 days on Rogaine. So around September will be 6 months, but i'm hoping to see some improvement in 2-4 months, if I do, I will post it. I'll keep my fingers crossed that my thread will be updated throughout the years with improvement

I would be surprised if you saw no improvement going from just fin to dut+minox. Do you use keto shampoo too?

[PatientlyWaiting]

I'm going to do the same, I won't update my thread until I see improvement worth posting. My initial goal is once I hit 6 months, if there's some good improvement, I will update it with before and after pictures. The before pictures will be from March 15th and March 29th. I have 13 days on dut, and about 11 days on Rogaine. So around September will be 6 months, but i'm hoping to see some improvement in 2-4 months, if I do, I will post it. I'll keep my fingers crossed that my thread will be updated throughout the years with improvement

[25 going on 65]

How are you doing at 2 months so far? Anything better than what fin was doing? And are you on minoxidil?

So far so good. No big initial shed so far, no side effects. I use brand name Avodart from a licensed pharmacy. I think this is too early to really see a visible improvement over my fin results, but I started a thread when I first made the switch and will update it if I see significant improvements
I don't use minox but I have used 2% keto shampoo for 3 years at least.