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  • jeffreybaks
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 55

    Concealer

    I recently ordered light brown dermmatch after much consideration on what color I wanted. I thought I had got it right but I'm having second thoughts. My hair was so hard to figure out exactly what shade would work with it the best. At first it seemed simple to me and I just ordered, but now that Iv read some more waiting for it to get here I'm not sure If I choose the right color.

    My hair seems to be every color under the sun depending on the light and background. It goes from a almost light brown to what seems to be black. The best I can come up with, is its a borderline dark brown/light black but with blonde the focus as in dirty blonde, but I'm confusing my self trying to explain so I can imagine what its like for someone else so the best way is to give examples in different conditions and see what everyone thinks. I'm looking to get by for a few years at work and save up money for hair implants as well as braces.

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  • jeffreybaks
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 55

    #2
    Theres a time limit on editing a post so i have a few more pictures to add. If anyone has used dermmatch and can give me any tips on colors that would be great.





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    • clandestine
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 2002

      #3
      If its not the right colour, order another one in a darker shade; not much too it mate.

      That said, I don't advocate concealers. I used them for a while; it's fake. Sort of like wearing a hat all the time. Whatever floats your boat though.

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      • jeffreybaks
        Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 55

        #4
        Originally posted by clandestine
        If its not the right colour, order another one in a darker shade; not much too it mate.

        That said, I don't advocate concealers. I used them for a while; it's fake. Sort of like wearing a hat all the time. Whatever floats your boat though.
        Iv been using minoxidil 5% extra strength along with Hairsil Accelerator treatment and shampoo for 3 years now with GNC UltraNourishHair pills. I know what I'm suppose to do but I need some lift for awhile and I think a concealer might help out for a bit. Im entering another stage in my life, and Im going to have to go through some interviews and work with new people so I want to look my best.

        From what I see, the medium dermmatch looked way to red for my hair and it would be really fake looking so I dismissed it right when I seen a actual picture of it. The dark brown looked way to dark to me, almost black so I dismissed it as well, so I went with light brown.

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        • Tracy C
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 3083

          #5
          Jeffrey,

          Light brown looks right for you. Dermmatch blends in with natural hair color exceptionally well. You only need to get it close - and you can blend colors if you need to.

          There is nothing wrong with wearing concealer if it helps you feel better about yourself. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

          That Hairsil stuff is garbage that does absolutely nothing to treat your hair loss. Save your money and ask your doctor for a prescription for Nizoral shampoo and use it once a week. The GNC UltraNourishHair pills do little to nothing meaningful to treat your hair loss as well. Talk to your doctor about Propecia or generic Finasteride. It looks like you have salvageable hair. Though you won't get it all back, you could get a lot back during the course of the three years you need o wait - if you use treatments that are proven effective.

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          • jeffreybaks
            Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 55

            #6
            Originally posted by Tracy C
            Jeffrey,

            Light brown looks right for you. Dermmatch blends in with natural hair color exceptionally well. You only need to get it close - and you can blend colors if you need to.

            There is nothing wrong with wearing concealer if it helps you feel better about yourself. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

            That Hairsil stuff is garbage that does absolutely nothing to treat your hair loss. Save your money and ask your doctor for a prescription for Nizoral shampoo and use it once a week. The GNC UltraNourishHair pills do little to nothing meaningful to treat your hair loss as well. Talk to your doctor about Propecia or generic Finasteride. It looks like you have salvageable hair. Though you won't get it all back, you could get a lot back during the course of the three years you need o wait - if you use treatments that are proven effective.
            thx for the encouragement, I will have to look into seeing a dr, its been long time.

            I think most products for hair loss are placebo though. After so long of using something that doesnt help it ends up you just keep taking it to so that you can tell your self your at least trying to do something about it. This all started when I got my hair bleached at Regis Salon a few times, I think my hair was already on the verge of going then when I bleached it it just all went in a few months time. I think if I would have learned how to take care of my hair before bleaching it I would have saved alot of it. It wasnt but a couple of hours after I got out of the salon after it being bleached it started to fall out and it all went down hill from there. I was in a bad situation to so I cant blame it on the salon either.

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            • jeffreybaks
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 55

              #7
              The 15 minute edit time thing is really ridiculous. Here is that picture I was refuring to in my last post,
              http://i48.tinypic.com/5th5j.jpg Thats my mum next to me. This picture was taken on may 24th, 2008 my birthday so its not really all that long ago. Just shows what can happen in a short amount of time.

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              • Tracy C
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 3083

                #8
                Originally posted by jeffreybaks
                I think most products for hair loss are placebo though.
                Most products on the market to treat hair loss are scams. Hairsil is certainly one of those many scams. The only treatments for hereditary hair loss that are proven to work and are FDA approved for the treatment of hereditary hair loss in men are Propecia (or generic Finasteride) and Rogaine (or generic Minoxidil). The active ingredient in Nizoral shampoo is a helpful adjunct to those two treatments. The laser comb is cleared by the FDA for the treatment of hereditary hair loss, however your hair is farther gone than the laser comb can help in any appreciable way.

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                • jeffreybaks
                  Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 55

                  #9
                  How about Ultrax Labs Hair surge shampoo, DS Laboratories Revita or bosley.

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                  • Tracy C
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3083

                    #10
                    Caffeine shampoos are a scam. The only shampoos on the market that do anything to treat hereditary hair loss are those that contain Ketoconazole as their active ingredient such as Nizoral (2%), Nizoral A-D (1%) or Regenepure (.9%).

                    DS labs just sells over priced blends of generic Minoxidl that have "other stuff" added. The actual benefits of the "other stuff" is questionable at best. You are much better off using Rogaine foam or generic Minoxidil that you can buy at Walmart.

                    Do not go to Bosely. Whatever you do, do not go to Bosely. Do not trust Bosely for anything. Do not trust Regis Salons for anything either.

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                    • jeffreybaks
                      Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 55

                      #11
                      If I ever get the change to get hair implants this will be the first thread I come back to for comparisons photos.

                      Ps:Iv actually got some Nizoral, I think I got just about every thing walmart sells when it comes to shampoos for men. Its non precription strength though. I find using extra strength 5% coal tar topical solution shampoo the only thing that can counter extra strength minoxidil cause the minoxidil fries my scalp and can at times leave a terrible case of dandruff which is gross to say the least.

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                      • Tracy C
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 3083

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jeffreybaks
                        ...cause the minoxidil fries my scalp and can at times leave a terrible case of dandruff which is gross to say the least.
                        This is often remedied by simply changing the brand of Minoxidil you are using. It is common with some generic brands such as Kirkland. I personally use men's Rogaine foam, though only once a day every other day, and I do not have that problem. I also use Walmart brand generic women's Minoxidil every evening and I don't have that problem with that either.

                        Nizoral A-D is 1% Ketoconazole. Use that once a week in place of your regular shampoo and use sulfate free shampoo and conditioner for the rest of the week - or a sulfate free 2-in-1 since you have short hair. It will take a while for your dandruff to clear up - but it should clear up.

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                        • jeffreybaks
                          Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 55

                          #13
                          I have sulfate free conditioner I like, I dont have dandruff any more since I started using the 5% coal tar that helped a lot actually, its the same stuff as Neutrogena T/gel.

                          I don't mind having some hair loss per se, I think men with some hair loss are extremely hot. Its just tough sometimes to deal with. To a certain extend it only goes so far with me though, I don't think being completely bald is sexy on everyone(to you bald guys don't get pissed) and I dont want to ever be completely bald either.

                          It goes without saying, there's a lot of things to make people look better. Plastic surgery,veneers,implants,healthy skin, its not just hair that would be nice to have look better. I think people get worked up about hair cause its obviously the first thing people will see on some one. Iv been freaking out about my hair a lot recently though and I decided I need to do something about it.

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                          • jeffreybaks
                            Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 55

                            #14
                            Iv changed a lot about my self though since I started losing my hair, I stopped smoking a pack a day and turned ovo-lacto vegetarian. You have to really change your entire life to stop balding in its tracks and a lot of time its still not enough. My life style was always to have fun but it comes at a price. It seems the world wasn't set up for people like me, I'm a transient eccentric and that makes fighting MPB doubly hard.

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                            • drybone
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 867

                              #15
                              Hey Jeff

                              Hair Loss sucks. We agree and we are behind you 100% . Tracy gives you good advice. You are a good candidate for 'rogaine' or 'propecia' because it looks like you just lost your hair recently and have a good chance at growing some of it back.

                              Check with your doctor or see a dermatologist. Let us know what you decide

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