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Yeah, I retract my statements. I was just making flippant statements because this board gets so mega serious.
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Scorpion being 100% serious, I remember hearing him on Spencer's show, really left a disturbing impression, real madness.
Highlander is also suffering a lot like many of us, but there's a lot of irony and dark tongue in cheek humor behind his posts. It's like he's letting his most shamedul thoughts go in the same way Tourette sufferers yell out what they are so afraid to say.Comment
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As we all know, finasteride is just the active ingredient in Propecia. HOWEVER, just like most drugs on the market there are other versions which use different binding agents to 'pad out' the rest of the pill.
The binding agents are key.
I tried Propecia and it messed with my sexual functioning. I kept at it for two months and nothing changed. I stopped taking it and all went back to normal.
Another doctor recommend Proscar, it comes in 5mg pills which you split into four with a splitter. From day one I suffered no side effects and have been on it for seven years at this stage.
Proscar isn't marketed as 'hair loss' drug like Propecia is, even though it has the same chemical make up. They obviously haven't cut any corners with the binding agents and therefore I, and most others, don't suffer any ill-effects on it.
The bottom line is talk things through with a specialist, not a local doctor. NEVER buy finasteride online, and try different brands until you find one that fits.Comment
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7 years? What was your experience?.. maintain.. regrowth at all? how old are you?Comment
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I'm 42, started getting SERIOUS hair loss over a period of a few months when I was 35. I went to a proper Hair Clinic for an appointment to see what they'd suggest. The doctor immediately put me on Proscar and Nizoral Shampoo (there's an active ingredient in the shampoo that enhances the effect of the finasteride).
After three months the results were amazing. Hair loss had stopped and started to re-grow around the crown and top of my head, and my hair was much thicker overall. Seven years later the results are still holding.
They key for me was that I regrew so much thick hair that's it's given me the option to use that hair for a transplant (for the hairline) if I ever wanted it. To be honest though, I'm so happy with the result from the Proscar and not too worried about having a slightly high forehead, you forget about it pretty quickly.Comment
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Your intentions are good, Chris, but your desire to provide a counterpoint to the folks on here who brashly dismiss any complaints about finasteride have led to you to become equally hysterical and hyperbolic. I agree with you--there are certainly very real and non-imagined side effects that can crop up due to Propecia, and I 100% believe that many people have suffered horrible complications that are not psychological.
However, you're citing the absence of a study that evaluates the drug's safety profile on young, mildly balding men as damning evidence that the drug isn't safe. I certainly concede that it doesn't look like that study exists, but while absence of that information doesn't verify the drug's safety, it certainly doesn't prove that it ISN'T safe--it just means we don't have a narrowly tailored study for that age range and rate of hair loss.
Until we have a study that says something like that, there's no quantifiable evidence that the rate of side effects is higher among young men than the rate cited by the studies that HAVE been conducted to date. We have a lot of anecdotal evidence, which I by and large don't doubt, but until that evidence can be QUANTIFIED and offset against the number of younger men that DON'T suffer side effects, there is no hard, scientific evidence to support your hypothesis that younger men have some alarmingly higher rate of side effects. You're completely entitled to believe that, of course, but scaring the bejesus out of people trying to make a rational decision is selfish and intellectually dishonest. By all means, share your experience, but just as you accuse the drug's more ardent supporters of having an emotional attachment to it, you've clearly developed the same emotional attachment to dissuading others from using it.
Potential finasteride users deserve to hear accounts of people who've suffered side effects, but they also deserve to hear from young guys, like me, who have had successful experiences with the drug.
When you say things like, "It won't be long before Propecia is withdrawn, mark my words," you're engaging in some pretty irresponsible fearmongering. You have no grounds for believing that to be the case, unless you're privy some data not available to the rest of us. So until we actually have some confirmation that moves have been made to pull the drug, I'd respectfully suggest sticking to sharing your story rather than histrionic tantrums. You've been a great resource on this forum, but your posts are becoming increasingly ascientific and emotional, and that doesn't do anyone any favors.Comment
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It is one thing to update the warning label and another thing to ban the drug. It should still be available to those of us who want to keep our hair, I feel.Comment
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Docode... great to hear!
I'm kinda in the same boat.. started receding a bit around 35.. and just lately at 37/38 I've noticed some thinning to go along with it which kinda scared me. Just started finasteride around a month ago and hoping to get some similar results as you .. 3 months would be fantastic to start seeing results but I won't be too disappointed if it takes longer or at leasts holds off the thinning/receding which is fairly mild at this point at least for my age.. not sure if you caught my thread >>>>>>
Oh yeah.. is Nizoral over the counter or do I need an RX? and how often do you use it? daily .. weekly?Comment
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You can get the 1% solution over the counter and 2% by RX only. I use the 1% and just started finastride 5 days ago.Docode... great to hear!
I'm kinda in the same boat.. started receding a bit around 35.. and just lately at 37/38 I've noticed some thinning to go along with it which kinda scared me. Just started finasteride around a month ago and hoping to get some similar results as you .. 3 months would be fantastic to start seeing results but I won't be too disappointed if it takes longer or at leasts holds off the thinning/receding which is fairly mild at this point at least for my age.. not sure if you caught my thread >>>>>>
Oh yeah.. is Nizoral over the counter or do I need an RX? and how often do you use it? daily .. weekly?
So far no shedding or sides.
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Tapered off fin after 3 months. Down to once a week. Stuff is potent.Had all the side effects. Little sides at once a week. Can only handle once a week.Comment
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The majority who donīt have sides may not even realize that Fin could be banned until they reach the pharmacy and realize that itīs not avaliable anymore.
Because the vast majority who benefits from Fin are not walking around these forums. Are simply just enjoying the benefits from it and not worrying about hairloss.
Iīve realized that the most bad stories about Fin can only be seen in specific hairloss forums. Iīve made an extended search on Google "finasteride results" and if you check the stories on general forums(most in off-topic section) you donīt see the same amout of bad stories as you see here. Itīs pretty logical. If you have some problem you come to specific sites(jairloss forums).
And thats why sometimes searching for unbiased information about FIN in this forum itīs kind of like going to a hospital and trying to find someone who is not sick.Comment
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