Bald at 17 just saying hello.

[BigThinker]

a 10/10 wife/gf is out of the question. I'd be lucky to get a 7 with no hair at my age.

Let me just start by commending you for losing your hair at such a young age and remaining a rationale person. I'm 24 and am pretty shook by moderate diffuse thinning and a receder. Your story puts s**t in perspective for me, so thanks for that.

I'm also impressed you decided to immediately bulk up and do other things to boost your physical appearance. I won't sit here and feed you full of BS that looks don't matter - and, frankly, I can tell you know better than to acknowledge that feed anyways.

You seem like an intelligent kid, which leads me to my next point. How are your academics? Are you pursuing a lucrative career? Money matters, man. If being bald is a deterrent to wanting to party and chase women around, I would definitely suggest focusing your life on your studies. Pursue an MD, or get an MS and enter the private sector where smart dudes can capitalize. By the time your 30, hair will play a much more minor role in your ability to snag females since more and more fellas have fell off the hair train. Women will be a lot more concerned with what you do and how much you make. Basically, I'm saying get buff and be a bald, bulked up dude making 6+ digits. Then turn into a total boss and womanize all the superficial broads who looked down on you when you were young and vulnerable.

Props, kid. You'll be alright, and I don't think you need me or anyone else to tell you that.

[AFye]

I've contemplated suicide but if there is a chance I become rich and powerful I will take it. At that point it doesn't matter. Have you seen all the evil people in the world? Hillary Clinton, henry kissinger, ETC anyone else that wants wars for money. they are all ugly. but it doesn't matter because they are rich and powerful.

[clandestine]

You sound as if you already know where you're going; you've got a plan. Keep to your goals.

As others have mentioned, you seem very rational, intelligent, and have developed a necessary perception of things considering your situation. This is all very good.

Try to keep in mind; the shit you're going through makes you stronger than your peers. Those who don't deal with shіt, can't handle shіt. You, sir, can handle shіt.

Also, don't go on steroids at 19/20, it'll fuсk you later. And you can bulk to 200+lbs naturally (not easy, but certainly doable with the right attitude, knowledge and regimine).

Cheers.

[BigThinker]

There is no "we". That was directed at a single person. A single person who is already bald. Either you're implying bulking up is going to make him ugly, or you are incapable of comprehending what I wrote. And, no one gives a f**k what you think of the lifestyles we choose. We're not the ones that start topics pushing racist propaganda and then flying the Christian flag in half his posts like some loopy religious zealot on a hair loss forum. All you do is try to bring other people down because you're ugly, mentally unstable, and probably academically unsuccessful. You're not fit to drink my piss, you poor, pathetic clown.

Next, please!

[clandestine]

Also, Highlander is a sad сunt.

[clandestine]

Ok? Thanks.

Hey! You acknowledged me. You are, mate. You're a sad сunt, and you need to generate a more reasonable perception of things. Happiness is self created. On this note, self-detriment is as well.

[AFye]

You sound as if you already know where you're going; you've got a plan. Keep to your goals.

As others have mentioned, you seem very rational, intelligent, and have developed a necessary perception of things considering your situation. This is all very good.

Try to keep in mind; the shit you're going through makes you stronger than your peers. Those who don't deal with shіt, can't handle shіt. You, sir, can handle shіt.

Also, don't go on steroids at 19/20, it'll fuсk you later. And you can bulk to 200+lbs naturally (not easy, but certainly doable with the right attitude, knowledge and regimine).

Cheers.

200+ with a low BF% IS NOT achievable for me with in a reasonable time frame without AAS. I am an ectomorph. If I ever get to 200 in single digits I will be like 35 years old. Sorry I don't want to wait that long.

[clandestine]

You're right, happiness is self-created. That's why I'm designing my looks from the ground up.

Spoiler; it's also not necessarily dependent on materiality.

[AFye]

If you're gonna get on the juice then you need to do some SERIOUS research. Frankly, if I was ever going to do it I would fake a hormone test with a doctor so that I would be 100% properly monitored and it would be "legal".

Sleep deprivation, large amounts of alochol. Just everything to reduce your test levels before the test.

I am already doing research. By the time I'm 19 I will know everything I need.

[clandestine]

200+ with a low BF% IS NOT achievable for me with in a reasonable time frame without AAS. I am an ectomorph. If I ever get to 200 in single digits I will be like 35 years old. Sorry I don't want to wait that long.

Reasonable time frame? Fuсk your time frame, that's an excuse. 35 years old is your projection; it's wrong.

You truly believe it takes 15+ years to put on 40lbs clean bulk? That's jokes. But hey, I'm not going to make your decisions for you.

Also, I've got a great article /interview regarding ectomorph bulking, but can't seem to find it unfortunately.

[J_B_Davis]

Hey! You acknowledged me. You are, mate. You're a sad сunt, and you need to generate a more reasonable perception of things. Happiness is self created. On this note, self-detriment is as well.

Highlander is a complete basket case, it is sad to always see how he projects his immense unhappiness on others. These type of conditions usually only get worse with age, so at this rate he might even have to be institutionalized eventually. He will not be able to function normally in society for long.

[AFye]

Reasonable time frame? Fuсk your time frame, that's an excuse. 35 years old is your projection; it's wrong.

Also, I've got a great article /interview regarding ectomorph bulking, but can't seem to find it unfortunately.

I'm sorry brah. unlike you I never had a start. I lost my hair incredibly fast. I have to bulk up as fast as possible to salvage my youth. 200 pounds at 8% bF is about 184 pounds of LBM. Men who are BALDING have time to bulk up. I have to bulk up NOW to save what I can.

I started at 120 pounds which was like was like 110 LBM.

[clandestine]

I'm sorry brah. unlike you I never had a start.

Don't be sorry, I understand your pain. Maybe not the extent of it; this would be necessarily impossible, as you're not me. But I understand the gist of it, trust.

I lost my hair incredibly fast. I have to bulk up as fast as possible to salvage my youth.

What if there is nothing to salvage? You've created the idea that your youth is inadequate, and you live your life by this (self-constructed) belief. There is nothing inherently wrong with this; we are live life as dictated by our belief systems.

What you must realize, though, is that belief is permeable. Your thoughts; beliefs; morals; values; and thus perception; and thus perspective; all permeable.

200 pounds at 8% bF is about 184 pounds of LBM. Men who are BALDING have time to bulk up. I have to bulk up NOW to save what I can.

Unfortunately I don't have the time to keep discussing this with you. I must stress, however, that anabolic steroids will fuсk you later. You're not planning for the long-term, here.

Also, what you want in life now does not by any means dictate what you might want in 2 years, or one, or a few months, or even next week. This part might make the least sense; but it is truth. Your worldview will change, it is not static, this is unavoidable.

Cheers, and all the best,
clandestine

[ChrisM]

This actually worries me a lot. My parents have tried to institutionalise me once before already.

Keep up the track you are on and they might succeed the next time. Get therapy and work out your mind around your body conscious issues.

[J_B_Davis]

This actually worries me a lot. My parents have tried to institutionalise me once before already.

You really might need to be institutionalized kid, you are not well at all. You need some serious help if you plan to ever live a normal existence. You need to know this and seek help, you have very serious issues. You should talk to your family and allow them to get you help.