9 years later on propecia

[25 going on 65]

OP is a good example of how you can live for a decade with MPB and not have a visible change in hair as long as you take consistent action

I do not think it is fair to blame his skinny physique on fin, a lot of guys skinner than him are not on fin, and he was skinny in his old pictures too. It's like on propeciahelp.com, I see people blaming every physical change on this drug. "I look more tired now than I did in 2001, fin did this to me." "Well my back hurts sometimes, thanks to fin." As if nothing else could possibly cause these very common conditions.
We have 5-10 year studies on this drug, we have people here who have taken it since the 90s, we have been studying 5-alpha reductase deficiency in developed males for decades....this is not a spooky mystery medicine whatsoever

Now that I am on dut and fin together I will let you guys know if I notice a sexual difference. But after reading the studies and after 2+ years on fin I am not exactly expecting a change

[baldozer]

OP is a good example of how you can live for a decade with MPB and not have a visible change in hair as long as you take consistent action

You call this a good example? He seems to have diffuse thinning and a NW3 pattern. He just has a good combover kind of style. But still better than being bald for sure.

[drybone]

I think when we run out of realistic options, then we go for shaving the old noggin.

If you are one of the men who get these side effects, then stop taking it , go bald, and join the trolls on here hoping it will suck for everyone else too.

[25 going on 65]

You call this a good example? He seems to have diffuse thinning and a NW3 pattern. He just has a good combover kind of style. But still better than being bald for sure.

The question is not where he is now but where he is vs. when he started fin. Remember DHT meds are much better for maintaining than regrowing. His hairline is in the same place as it was and he does not have bare patches. For someone who started losing it as a teenager and is now 30, this is a serious accomplishment....without meds he would easily be bald right now.

and remember this is without consistent use of keto, no use of minox, no dutasteride. If he wanted he could have gone all out and who knows where that would take him.
We are all hoping for a treatment that grows rockstar heads of hair for all of us, but for now, what we have is still amazing if you think about where hair loss treatments were a generation ago (awful looking transplants and minoxidil)

[baldozer]

The question is not where he is now but where he is vs. when he started fin. Remember DHT meds are much better for maintaining than regrowing. His hairline is in the same place as it was and he does not have bare patches. For someone who started losing it as a teenager and is now 30, this is a serious accomplishment....without meds he would easily be bald right now.

and remember this is without consistent use of keto, no use of minox, no dutasteride. If he wanted he could have gone all out and who knows where that would take him.
We are all hoping for a treatment that grows rockstar heads of hair for all of us, but for now, what we have is still amazing if you think about where hair loss treatments were a generation ago (awful looking transplants and minoxidil)

But it comes at a cost. Propecia can mess up the hormonal balance in the body. People are willing to sacrifice their health for few hairs on their head. That is not a good thing IMO. What if one day you have ED, Insomnia and depression due to this drug. You would want to trade every bit of your hair to get back your health. Ya call me a troll if you want, but I'm entitled to my opinion.

[Zao]

Sorry but the guy looks semi-balding with long hair and looks to be suffering from muscle wasting probably from a decade of suppressing his hormones, wouldnt be surprised if his voice has feminised & he has started to develop female breast tissue, not to mention his performance in bed after 10 years of propecia abuse id be surprised if he even has an interest in procreating with the opposite sex anymore.

Have fun with fin....

You anti-Propecia zealots are disgusting sometimes! This guy is obviously happy with his results and wants to share them with everyone and you actually take the time to insult his hair and his physique. Why would you want this person to feel bad about himself? Does this type of behavior somehow make you feel better about yourself? Isn't this forum about trying to support each other?
You people behave like animals!

[baldozer]

You anti-Propecia zealots are disgusting sometimes! This guy is obviously happy with his results and wants to share them with everyone and you actually take the time to insult his hair and his physique. Why would you want this person to feel bad about himself? Does this type of behavior somehow make you feel better about yourself? Isn't this forum about trying to support each other?
You people behave like animals!

Ya we are trying to help you by saying you should not trade your health for hair. Who knows, in future, due to hair cloning you might get a rockstar head of hair anyway, but the damage to your health might not be so easily reversible. But in the end its your personal choice. If you take propecia knowing all the risks, more power to you! Aderans is hopefully coming soon by the way, so even if you want to maintain what you have, you won't need that silly propecia drug!

[drybone]

You anti-Propecia zealots are disgusting sometimes! This guy is obviously happy with his results and wants to share them with everyone and you actually take the time to insult his hair and his physique. Why would you want this person to feel bad about himself? Does this type of behavior somehow make you feel better about yourself? Isn't this forum about trying to support each other?
You people behave like animals!

I know. Even someone who is an obvious success has to be dragged down somehow.

He starts asking him if hes married or has kids ie did his dick fall off or is he sterile.

The kid is 29 or 30 years old probably not even married yet.

They are being obvious jerks because they get to hide behind the internet and whoever runs this forum lets them get away with it. I think its time for us to put them on ignore and move on.

Just keep being positive.

[25 going on 65]

But it comes at a cost. Propecia can mess up the hormonal balance in the body. People are willing to sacrifice their health for few hairs on their head. That is not a good thing IMO. What if one day you have ED, Insomnia and depression due to this drug. You would want to trade every bit of your hair to get back your health. Ya call me a troll if you want, but I'm entitled to my opinion.

I'm not saying you are a troll, but I don't think you are looking at it from other people's perspectives.
For most men, the price of fin is just some money out of the pocket, since most of us do not have sides. For people like me who are not well equipped to handle hair loss, this is worth it 10x over.
I had insomnia, depression and sexual dysfunction because of hair loss, before I ever took hair meds. Finasteride treated all three for me by improving and maintaining my hair....not just a few hairs on my head, but tens of thousands (which is how many we lose when we go bald).
This is the irony....finasteride is the best choice I ever made for my sexual and psychological health. Thank god it did mess with my hormonal balance, because the one I had before was ruining my young adulthood.
My biggest regret is not starting sooner, but better late than never, as they say!

[Soxfaninfl]

You anti-Propecia zealots are disgusting sometimes! This guy is obviously happy with his results and wants to share them with everyone and you actually take the time to insult his hair and his physique. Why would you want this person to feel bad about himself? Does this type of behavior somehow make you feel better about yourself? Isn't this forum about trying to support each other?
You people behave like animals!

Great post!

[baldozer]

I'm not saying you are a troll, but I don't think you are looking at it from other people's perspectives.
For most men, the price of fin is just some money out of the pocket, since most of us do not have sides. For people like me who are not well equipped to handle hair loss, this is worth it 10x over.
I had insomnia, depression and sexual dysfunction because of hair loss, before I ever took hair meds. Finasteride treated all three for me by improving and maintaining my hair....not just a few hairs on my head, but tens of thousands (which is how many we lose when we go bald).
This is the irony....finasteride is the best choice I ever made for my sexual and psychological health. Thank god it did mess with my hormonal balance, because the one I had before was ruining my young adulthood.
My biggest regret is not starting sooner, but better late than never, as they say!

Good to know that mate. Have a nice day!

[drybone]

Wrong. This is where they do become trolls.

They come here and give their opinon , fine. But they dont do it from a personal point of view, they try to spin it into everyone and their dog has these side effects.

And when someone does that, making it seem like everyone gets these side effects, they are doing it for a selfish reason.

We come here to exchange our experiences, not to rain on everyones parade because it didnt work out for them personally.

If that is not trolling then what is? Its the classic definition .

[akai]

Looks great. I'm almost on year two on finasteride and it has stopped my shedding and filled in my crown. Not sure how much Nizoral has helped but it's definitely the best product I've used for seborrheic dermatitis. No sexual side effects at all. As I've mentioned before I had sexual side effects from taking a SSRI. They're no joke and scary as ****.

*As for the poster UK finasteride didn't hinder my muscle gains at all. Check out various bodybuilding forums, there are plenty of guys on finasteride who comment on whether it has affected their gains and muscle tone. The overwhelming answer is that it hasn't. Why does that piss you off? Misery loves company and you want people to suffer from sides??

[BigThinker]

Wrong. This is where they do become trolls.

They come here and give their opinon , fine. But they dont do it from a personal point of view, they try to spin it into everyone and their dog has these side effects.

And when someone does that, making it seem like everyone gets these side effects, they are doing it for a selfish reason.

We come here to exchange our experiences, not to rain on everyones parade because it didnt work out for them personally.

If that is not trolling then what is? Its the classic definition .

*As for the poster UK finasteride didn't hinder my muscle gains at all. Check out various bodybuilding forums, there are plenty of guys on finasteride who comment on whether it has affected their gains and muscle tone. The overwhelming answer is that it hasn't. Why does that piss you off? Misery loves company and you want people to suffer from sides??

The amount of truth in these two posts makes me want start a slow clap.

It's so interesting to me that the anti-fin guys are the ones that squandered away their opportunities to save their hair because they chose to be remain uninformed or let fear override reason.

I don't doubt the existence of some guys who have had real sexual side effects while on finasteride. However, I do find it difficult to attribute causality, instead of muddled association.

[Kova]

Just to join in, I really think that it is a case of the people who do get sides are the ones who end up on the internet crying foul for obvious reasons.

I have a couple of friends who both went to their gp to ask if there was anything that could be done about hair loss, their doctors (maybe somewhat recklessly?) just said "yes, here is a script for finasteride". I have asked both of them, they didn't even seem to know that there could be sides and have experienced none.

For one of them, who's father is slick bald, the fin literally within months had regrown his hair to extremely thick completely flawless coverage, didnt even shed. This is from a situation where he'd probably lost about 50% density across the whole top of his head, and the typical jibing had started from the idiotic dickheaded individual in the group of friends, there always seems to be one right? I realize he probably was lucky to get on it super fast, and also lucky to respond really well though.

Neither of these people has used a forum in their life, both are weightlifting womanizers, I suspect the vast majority of those on fin are more like these people....not shut ins sitting on their computer giving updates on how great fin is.

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and when I say "how great fin is" I mean great for them, I am still too scared to take it haha..