saw palmetto can stop, reverse fin side effects!!!

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  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1513

    #31
    Originally posted by chrisis
    You've proven nothing. Show me the studies I'm asking for, otherwise, shut up.
    for the love of god... all right, I will take you up to a public debate in a FINASTERIDE VS CHRIS THREAD. It's on! Make a seperate thread. I'll meet you there...

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    • chrisis
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1257

      #32
      Originally posted by 2020
      for the love of god... all right, I will take you up to a public debate in a FINASTERIDE VS CHRIS THREAD. It's on! Make a seperate thread. I'll meet you there...
      There are no studies truly representative of the actual users of Propecia, so you can't win. All studies have participants with higher Norwood levels, which equals SKEWED DATA.

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      • 2020
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1513

        #33
        Originally posted by chrisis
        There are no studies truly representative of the actual users of Propecia, so you can't win. All studies have participants with higher Norwood levels, which equals SKEWED DATA.
        and what about prostate studies where they used FINASTERIDE and DUTASTERIDE? Those studies had people of all types of hair loss or no hair loss at all!
        The safety profile was the same. How would you explain that?

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        • chrisis
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 1257

          #34
          Originally posted by 2020
          and what about prostate studies where they used FINASTERIDE and DUTASTERIDE? Those studies had people of all types of hair loss or no hair loss at all!
          The safety profile was the same. How would you explain that?
          You're citing a drug study for one purpose to back up the use of said drug for an entirely different purpose? Talk about desperation.

          Did they examine their hair of participants in the prostate studies? I don't think so. Maybe people who are predisposed to prostate problems are predisposed to higher Norwood balding too. And I'm assuming they were generally older guys.

          You fail at science and you fail at this argument.

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          • 2020
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1513

            #35
            Originally posted by chrisis
            You're citing a drug study for one purpose to back up the use of said drug for an entirely different purpose? Talk about desperation.
            WHY WOULD IT MATTER??? They were given the SAME EXACT DRUG!

            Originally posted by chrisis
            Did they examine their hair of participants in the prostate studies? I don't think so. Maybe people who are predisposed to prostate problems are predisposed to higher Norwood balding too. And I'm assuming they were generally older guys.

            You fail at science and you fail at this argument.
            what would your predisposition to higher norwood mean? More side effects? Does that even make sense?

            If they were older guys, would that mean that the number of side effects would be higher or lower? In either case, the number came out the same as in previous studies with younger people. How would you explain that?


            What EXACT studies do you want? Young people, old people, asian people? What?

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            • chrisis
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1257

              #36
              Originally posted by 2020
              What EXACT studies do you want? Young people, old people, asian people? What?
              A study that represents the actual users. None of them are.

              I feel like I'm talking to someone with an IQ lower than a chicken. A chicken that never made it past hatching.

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              • 2020
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1513

                #37
                Originally posted by chrisis
                A study that represents the actual users. None of them are.
                what do you mean by "the actual users"??? You mean a DIVERSE RANGE of users???

                Originally posted by chrisis
                I feel like I'm talking to someone with an IQ lower than a chicken. A chicken that never made it past hatching.
                yeah yeah sure... best way to win an argument - say that your opponent an is idiot and that arguing with him is pointless thus automatic win for you...
                You already lost this argument once and you're losing it again fast

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                • chrisis
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1257

                  #38
                  Originally posted by 2020
                  what do you mean by "the actual users"??? You mean a DIVERSE RANGE of users???
                  How many 18-30 year olds do you think suffer from ****ing prostate problems? Mate, I have a lot of patience, but you just take the absolute biscuit. Time and time again you fail to grasp a simple point. It gets to a stage where there's no option but to give up and conclude you're either a) an idiot, b) a troll, or c) a shill.

                  If you're such a fan of Propecia, then why aren't you taking it? Don't give me shit about waiting for something else.

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                  • 2020
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 1513

                    #39
                    Originally posted by chrisis
                    How many 18-30 year olds do you think suffer from ****ing prostate problems?
                    not my point!!!

                    Originally posted by chrisis
                    Mate, I have a lot of patience, but you just take the absolute biscuit. Time and time again you fail to grasp a simple point. It gets to a stage where there's no option but to give up and conclude you're either a) an idiot, b) a troll, or c) a shill.
                    We're almost there. Answer my question: what do you mean by this:

                    A study that represents the actual users. None of them are.

                    Originally posted by chrisis
                    If you're such a fan of Propecia, then why aren't you taking it? Don't give me shit about waiting for something else.
                    ugh so do you want me to take a picture of myself holding a strip of propecia pills?

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                    • chrisis
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1257

                      #40
                      Unreal. Well done for turning yet another discussion into a rabble. I will not be replying to any more of your posts.

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                      • 2020
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1513

                        #41
                        Originally posted by chrisis
                        Unreal. Well done for turning yet another discussion into a rabble. I will not be replying to any more of your posts.
                        yeah of course... automatic win for you huh?

                        This wouldn't have happened if you just answered my question: WHAT STUDIES DO YOU WANT?

                        You replied:

                        A study that represents the actual users. None of them are.
                        I asked you to clarify what exactly that means. Why can't you just answer this?

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                        • StuckInARut
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 208

                          #42
                          Sorry to bump such an old thread but am wondering if there is any truth to what the OP said. Could/Does Saw Palmetto help to reverse or prevent Fin sides? The reason I am wondering is because I am having a completely different experience on Fin than when I was taking Saw Palmetto.

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