Hi, 28 year old, lack of hair on crown

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  • 25 going on 65
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    Originally posted by 2020
    you do realize that this drug has been around for more than 20 years and its patent is about to expire on 2013?
    This means generic 1 mg finasteride will be available at US pharmacies soon after, right?
    Thank god

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    Originally posted by chrisis
    mnx, there are people at either sides of the spectrum, either pushing propecia or criticising it. I'm personally in the middle, because the truth is we don't conclusively know what the risks are, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.
    Taking the fact that you have quit the drug and have personally suffered from the side effects, I can't see you in the middle, sorry..

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by chrisis
    because the truth is we don't conclusively know what the risks are, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.
    we don't know the risks and yet FDA concluded that it's safe?
    Don't worry, FDA is much more paranoid than you two combined. They wouldn't have approved it if it was unsafe.

    Originally posted by chrisis
    The facts are that the studies that have been conducted indicate finasteride is useful to stop male pattern baldness, and that it is relatively low risk. However, Merck have recently pulled their website promoting Propecia and are preparing to defend themselves in court.
    you do realize that this drug has been around for more than 20 years and its patent is about to expire on 2013?
    There is no need for Merck to advertise it anymore, that's why the website is down.

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    Originally posted by Karimoo7
    Hi,
    How can I stop falling hair? I am losing hair day by day.denver airport shuttle
    LOL Leave the airport. It can't be good for hair, all them planes coming from above..

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  • chrisis
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    mnx, there are people at either sides of the spectrum, either pushing propecia or criticising it. I'm personally in the middle, because the truth is we don't conclusively know what the risks are, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

    The facts are that the studies that have been conducted indicate finasteride is useful to stop male pattern baldness, and that it is relatively low risk. However, Merck have recently pulled their website promoting Propecia and are preparing to defend themselves in court.

    Facts aside, my personal experience and that of many others indicates that the risks may be higher than Merck and people on these forums suggest.

    It's your decision at the end of the day, so try not to be convinced by people at the "poles" of the argument. If you try finasteride, start at a lower dose and work up, but I certainly would applaud you for trying alternatives first, especially if you're just at an early stage in the balding process.

    By the way, I had a fine experience with finasteride for 2-3 months and then the side effects kicked in. It's not always instant, apparently. I'm off the drug for nearly a week now and waiting for things to return to normal. I'll inform the board when they do. If they don't, I'll have to see my doctor...

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  • mnx
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    Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
    Those are excellent ingredients. We have plenty in common, my regimen contains many of those compounds You listed. Most importantly - they're safe, unlike that man-poison hazard drug called propecia.
    Originally posted by 2020
    ^ just so you know, he's still bald... That might tell you something about the efficacy of those supplements
    Originally posted by Tracy C
    mnx,

    StressedToTheBald does not know anything. The nonsense he keeps shoveling is worthless and will steer you down the wrong path if you believe it. Following his advice will waste your time, waste your money and waste your hair that could have been saved if you had chosen proven treatments.
    You know, I notice that stbb has a similar interest in herbal supplements, however I am not putting all my eggs in that basket trust me. I appreciate your warnings, I am not buying bogus cures, and I am going to consider the big 3 with advice of a specialist. I also will continue to pursue my own regimen.

    I am resolved to do everything in my power to keep my hair.

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  • mnx
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    Originally posted by Tracy C
    Wow! You really don't need all that. It is best to get your nutition from the foods that you eat. A good quality Hair, Skin & Nails multi-vitamin will have most of what you need anyways.
    I try to eat healthy, and yeah some might be unnecessary, but it really isn't as expensive or troublesome as it sounds.

    Honestly I've been big on supplements ever since I used them to combat severe stomach problems, and this amount feels ok to me.

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  • mnx
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    Originally posted by 2020
    You don't know if it's MPB? Try to find out before spending money on all those supplements
    I would say it is likely, and I don't really want to wait until it is obvious before I address it. Also, those supplements really aren't as expensive as it all sounds.

    Some of it I would be consuming anyway(super green drink, pumpkin seed oil, green tea and multivitamin).

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  • Tracy C
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    Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
    Those are excellent ingredients.
    mnx,

    StressedToTheBald does not know anything. The nonsense he keeps shoveling is worthless and will steer you down the wrong path if you believe it. Following his advice will waste your time, waste your money and waste your hair that could have been saved if you had chosen proven treatments.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
    Those are excellent ingredients. We have plenty in common, my regimen contains many of those compounds You listed. Most importantly - they're safe, unlike that man-poison hazard drug called propecia.
    ^ just so you know, he's still bald... That might tell you something about the efficacy of those supplements

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    Originally posted by mnx
    Anyway, I may as well list my supplement regimen.

    Saw Palmetto/ whole berry, 540mg x3 daily(Going to buy a standardized extract complex to replace this)
    Multivitamin/ once a day(500% b-6, 100% zinc + usual array, has added Saw Palmetto, Pygeum, evening primrose oil, pumpkin seed)
    Hair, Skin, and nails/twice a day(700mg MSM, 250mg horsetail extract 7 % silica, L-Cysteine, Choline, Inositol, PABA)
    Biotin/ 1668%, once a day
    Black currant seed oil/ 1 gram 14-17% gamma linolenic, twice a day
    Virgin Cold pressed Pumpkin seed oil, I put on almost everything I eat, consume a good 1-2 tbsp a day.
    Green tea/ 3 cups a day
    Trader Joes super green drink/1 scoop a day(Not specifically for hair loss, but the stuff makes me feel great, and there are some things in there that could help at the very least with the health of my hair)
    (Buying Beta-sitosterol, nettle leaf, eleuthero ginseng, green tea extract)

    Also, I try to eat a very healthy diet. I eat lots of seaweed which is good for your hair, only good fats, not excessive meat, little to no dairy etc. No sugar, I try to limit my carbs in general. Hey this stuff can't hurt.
    Those are excellent ingredients. We have plenty in common, my regimen contains many of those compounds You listed. Most importantly - they're safe, unlike that man-poison hazard drug called propecia.

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  • Tracy C
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    Originally posted by mnx
    Anyway, I may as well list my supplement regimen.
    Wow! You really don't need all that. It is best to get your nutition from the foods that you eat. A good quality Hair, Skin & Nails multi-vitamin will have most of what you need anyways.

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  • 2020
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    You don't know if it's MPB? Try to find out before spending money on all those supplements

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  • mnx
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    I went to a clinic today, and asked about hair loss(I'll check out a more expensive specialist later).

    She thought it was possible MPB but sent me for some blood work to check things out. Apparently really extreme stress can cause delayed hair loss 2-3 months after, and that actually fits my situation. Wishful thinking maybe, but I want to cover all bases.

    Anyway, I may as well list my supplement regimen.

    Saw Palmetto/ whole berry, 540mg x3 daily(Going to buy a standardized extract complex to replace this)
    Multivitamin/ once a day(500% b-6, 100% zinc + usual array, has added Saw Palmetto, Pygeum, evening primrose oil, pumpkin seed)
    Hair, Skin, and nails/twice a day(700mg MSM, 250mg horsetail extract 7 % silica, L-Cysteine, Choline, Inositol, PABA)
    Biotin/ 1668%, once a day
    Black currant seed oil/ 1 gram 14-17% gamma linolenic, twice a day
    Virgin Cold pressed Pumpkin seed oil, I put on almost everything I eat, consume a good 1-2 tbsp a day.
    Green tea/ 3 cups a day
    Trader Joes super green drink/1 scoop a day(Not specifically for hair loss, but the stuff makes me feel great, and there are some things in there that could help at the very least with the health of my hair)
    (Buying Beta-sitosterol, nettle leaf, eleuthero ginseng, green tea extract)

    Also, I try to eat a very healthy diet. I eat lots of seaweed which is good for your hair, only good fats, not excessive meat, little to no dairy etc. No sugar, I try to limit my carbs in general. Hey this stuff can't hurt.

    Buying thickening shampoo with nutrients http://www.avalonorganics.com/?id=88&pid=23

    There are some other supplements I'm looking at, such as Reishi mushroom, may add to the list.

    Then of course, once I see a specialist or at least a primary care doctor, I may step up the regimen to include the serious stuff.

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  • mnx
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    Originally posted by Tracy C
    Please understand that I am not totally against suppliments. I use a specific Hair, Skin & Nails multi-vitamin myself. When dealing with a natural and normal process such as male and female patterned hereditary hair loss, especially when it is aggressive, supppiments cannot provide a strong fight.

    However if you chose to try a natural approach, there is one study that shows some limited merit for a specific Saw Palmetto complex. Nature's Bounty makes a product that matches the complex tested in that study. Here is a link to a PDF file of the label that shows the list of ingrediants for that product.

    http://images.vitaminimages.com/cdn/...L006052-NB.PDF
    Thanks, I think I'll try that product out.

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