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  • sausage
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1063

    #16
    Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
    He's most likely Norwood 7 then. I've read here on the forum btw, that many think HT at that stage might not be a good idea. I don't know, why not, I mean he can pay 10,000+ grafts or whatever it takes, I'd choose that over a hair piece any time. But maybe he has other reasons, maybe he dislikes surgery or something like that.
    I don't get why people say not to have a transplant at that norwood stage, does not make sense....people go on about graft numbers because apparently there is not enough donor hair but from some of the photos I have seen on transplants people have practically had the whole of their practically naked scalps transformed into a full head of hair.

    Also surely you could quite easily take 30-40% from the back and sides and be able to cover the top of the head. If not just bring the hairline back a centimetre or just leave the crown a bit thinner and thicken it up by using grafts from body hair, ie chest hair.

    I do not see why people go on about there not being enough donor hair at all.

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    • StressedToTheBald
      Inactive
      • Jan 2012
      • 452

      #17
      The donor hair issue and supposed limited numbers is a puzzle to me as well. I mean any bald person should have 1000s of hairs on the sides and back.. so how indeed can there be a lack to donor hair ? And all this hair is DHT resistant so it can't fall out.

      When I think of it actually, completely bald people might have a significant advantage - the disadvantage is of course the cost due to larger number of grafts needed - but the major advantage - as they have already lost all DHT non resistant hairs - their later outlook, their overall hair after the surgery should be much better as they have nothing to loose in the future ! The transplanted hairs will always be there and HT itself won't be compromised as it might happen in cases where people cover their current bald spots only to discover that they need another transplant, when they loose more DHT affected hairs in the future.

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      • sausage
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1063

        #18
        Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
        When I think of it actually, completely bald people might have a significant advantage - the disadvantage is of course the cost due to larger number of grafts needed - but the major advantage - as they have already lost all DHT non resistant hairs - their later outlook, their overall hair after the surgery should be much better as they have nothing to loose in the future ! The transplanted hairs will always be there and HT itself won't be compromised as it might happen in cases where people cover their current bald spots only to discover that they need another transplant, when they loose more DHT affected hairs in the future.
        I am pretty far gone, I tend to find that men tend to keep some hair on top of their scalps, my dad has, even if its just a small amount at least it means you need less grafts.

        I don't really see why some people fill in their hairline after its only receeded barely a centimetre. They will need to come back on a yearly basis to keep filling it in.

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        • clandestine
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2002

          #19
          Just wanted to add, Travolta looks like a straight up bad ass mother****er with the bald look. A lot of us are not so lucky, I don't see why he doesn't rock it.

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          • Paul Peter
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 26

            #20
            Originally posted by sausage
            If only fake hair could be somehow stuck to the head permanently in a totally realistic way....

            Otherwise I am not keen. I would feel a bit of a tit with a dead badger on my head to be honest and then a big gust of wind taking it away..

            I guess it would feel like that if you wore it 24/7. The longest I have went is 2 days and even then I was itching to get it off.

            I couldn't go weeks and weeks like some guys.

            Think of it like you're putting on a nice suit. You put it on for the evening then take it off.

            That's what I do with my hair systems.

            As regards Travolta, he only wears one like I do when he feels like it.

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            • Tracy C
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 3083

              #21
              Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
              If the 1st picture is correct, he seems to be Norwood 7, the final stage of baldness.
              No he doesn't. A NW7 is much worse than that.



              Originally posted by sausage
              I do not see why people go on about there not being enough donor hair at all.
              You both need to get out and talk to some hair restoration doctors.

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              • sausage
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1063

                #22
                Originally posted by Paul Peter
                I guess it would feel like that if you wore it 24/7. The longest I have went is 2 days and even then I was itching to get it off.

                I couldn't go weeks and weeks like some guys.

                Think of it like you're putting on a nice suit. You put it on for the evening then take it off.

                That's what I do with my hair systems.

                As regards Travolta, he only wears one like I do when he feels like it.
                There is something about wigs that would make me feel like I was conning myself and conning others. If I went out in a wig then not only would people be like woah.....how did you get your hair back and probably would start pulling at it, which wouldn't be good.

                Also If a girl chatted me up and asked for my number and I started seeing her, there is no way I would be able to keep the wig a secret and she would very soon get the shock of her life when I take it off or it falls off.

                But if it works for you then great.

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                • Paul Peter
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 26

                  #23
                  Originally posted by sausage
                  There is something about wigs that would make me feel like I was conning myself and conning others. If I went out in a wig then not only would people be like woah.....how did you get your hair back and probably would start pulling at it, which wouldn't be good.

                  Also If a girl chatted me up and asked for my number and I started seeing her, there is no way I would be able to keep the wig a secret and she would very soon get the shock of her life when I take it off or it falls off.

                  But if it works for you then great.
                  You could be like me and treat the wig-wearing as a bit of a joke. For those who know and suspect, admit it, you're wearing a system. Big deal. If you show you're not bothered then they will soon give up caring.

                  Also, strangers rarely look at somene's head long enough to suspect it's a wig, a toupee, a system.

                  Unless it looks like this:



                  My advice is to enjoy wearing hair. But don't wear a bad one. Let them keep guessing. If it's good they won't be sure if it is or it isn't.

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                  • Tracy C
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3083

                    #24
                    Originally posted by sausage
                    There is something about wigs that would make me feel like I was conning myself and conning others.
                    If you were female you would feel very different about that. Ha ha

                    I was wearing wigs for years before I started treating my hair loss - and until I had regrown & transplanted enough hair to not need wigs any more.



                    Originally posted by Paul Peter
                    You could be like me and treat the wig-wearing as a bit of a joke. For those who know and suspect, admit it, you're wearing a system. Big deal. If you show you're not bothered then they will soon give up caring.
                    I agree with this. Everyone in my life knew I was wearing hair back when I needed to wear hair. Nearly everyone was very kind and supportive about it. I know it's different for females than it is for males - but it isn't that different.

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                    • Paul Peter
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 26

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Tracy C
                      ...
                      I agree with this. Everyone in my life knew I was wearing hair back when I needed to wear hair. Nearly everyone was very kind and supportive about it. I know it's different for females than it is for males - but it isn't that different.
                      But more to the point: strangers as a rule don't go round every minute of the day looking for who is wearing fake hair.

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                      • Tracy C
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 3083

                        #26
                        That is true. People generally don't care. However everyone notices a lady who is losing her hair. I just don't see any reason why it couldn't be just as acceptable for a male to wear hair as it is for a female to wear hair. The emotional trauma of losing your hair is a very big deal but wearing hair is not nearly as bad. It can help you cope with the emotional trauma. It certainly helped me cope.

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                        • Paul Peter
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 26

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Tracy C
                          That is true. People generally don't care. However everyone notices a lady who is losing her hair. I just don't see any reason why it couldn't be just as acceptable for a male to wear hair as it is for a female to wear hair. The emotional trauma of losing your hair is a very big deal but wearing hair is not nearly as bad. It can help you cope with the emotional trauma. It certainly helped me cope.
                          Being a bald man, I admit I DO look at guys and think, 'he's wearing a wig.' But I don't do that with women. Mainly because women can have full big hair (like in the Dallas days) and it isn't necessarily a wig. Young guys can have big hair too.

                          It's only when I see a man aged about 65 with black hair and 180% density that I suspect.

                          But as I said, men and women who aren't fixated with hair as much as me or others, are not on a mission to find the wig-wearer of the day.

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                          • StressedToTheBald
                            Inactive
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 452

                            #28
                            I don't know, although its not my personal choice, I can't really judge anyone going with a hair system, everyone should use what makes them feel better. I wish there was a cure though - one everyone could afford and grow back a full set of hair.

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                            • Paul Peter
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 26

                              #29
                              Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
                              I don't know, although its not my personal choice, I can't really judge anyone going with a hair system, everyone should use what makes them feel better. I wish there was a cure though - one everyone could afford and grow back a full set of hair.
                              If you're gonna get a hair system I suggest you:

                              Avoid poly thin skin as it's dreadful. Low density 65-70% French lace looks more realistic, although you may find glues are better than tapes. I can't ever get tapes to stick for me so I use white glue.

                              Full caps are also something to avoid, maybe. I've had three and whilst they put hair on your head, I still couldn't be honest with myself that the hair staring back in the mirror looked real.

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                              • StressedToTheBald
                                Inactive
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 452

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Paul Peter
                                If you're gonna get a hair system I suggest you:

                                Avoid poly thin skin as it's dreadful. Low density 65-70% French lace looks more realistic, although you may find glues are better than tapes. I can't ever get tapes to stick for me so I use white glue.

                                Full caps are also something to avoid, maybe. I've had three and whilst they put hair on your head, I still couldn't be honest with myself that the hair staring back in the mirror looked real.
                                Thanks and appreciate the advice but I myself am not considering a hair system. I am trying to regrow my hair via natural 5-alpha reductase inhibitors and fingers crossed in the months to follow I am hoping for at least some visible results.

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