Struggle To Defeat Baldness (Norwood 4-5)

[StressedToTheBald]

Apparently England and Ireland are not renowned for HT surgery although there is one IAHRS approved surgeon here, people on this forum tend to tell me and everyone else to avoid England and Ireland. There are 2 IAHRS surgeons based in Belgium so I think thats probably the best place to go in Europe.

Anyway a bit more research to do and more decision making.

A head of hair would change my life, hopefully this year, fingers crossed.

I didn't consider that fact. Good observation though, I'll look further into that matter. The prices are certainly highest in England and Ireland, 10 euros per just one single graft for example I think is the highest cost in Europe.

[sausage]

I didn't consider that fact. Good observation though, I'll look further into that matter. The prices are certainly highest in England and Ireland, 10 euros per just one single graft for example I think is the highest cost in Europe.

Yeah we always get ripped off here in Britain.

Rooney's was speculated to be £30,000 whether thats true or not I don't know. I doubt he even paid a penny. But if he actually did have to pay then 30k is very expensive, some papers said it cost him £12,000 so thats a bit of a difference in price.

I have also heard surgeons here are booked up for over a year, so theres huge waiting lists. In America apparently you only have to wait 4 months.

[StressedToTheBald]

Could easily be true.. for example 3,000 grafts x 10 pounds, or 4,000 grafts x 7,50 pounds plus best clinic and surgeon, it easily comes to 30,000 pounds. I'm not worried about him though - he would as easily cash out 300,000 if needed, its us average Joes who struggle to save up a fraction of the cost.

Waiting lists !? Now thats proposterous. I mean with that amount of cash for half a day's work and one has to wait for months. Utter disgrace.. People wanting to become filthy rich these days need not consider banking or politics, turns out that beeing a hair doctor is the most profitable profession in the world.

[StressedToTheBald]

I have noticed a 3-4mm length single hair on my left side of receding hairline. Its still not proper colour, but what might make it special is that appeared in the place where I am bald and never really had hair. Fingers crossed, although tiny and insignifacant, it might be a sign that I am doing something right with my regimen.

Much closer to the rest of the spots where I have hair, I think I can also notice some very tiny hairs, much smaller though, weaker and also poor in colour.

If any of these hairs develop further and gain proper colour and strength in the months ahead, I'll report any visible progress and include zoom in pictures.

[sausage]

If any of these hairs develop further and gain proper colour and strength in the months ahead, I'll report any visible progress and include zoom in pictures.

Sounds good, hope it keeps sprouting.

Can I ask you about the general texture of your hair, I am interested to know more about balding mens hair texture etc. I asked that grease question the other day which you helped me very much with the sebum issue....

Do you have much of a sebum issue yourself?

I find the texture of my hair is a little staw like and not as soft as when my hair was when I was 15 when it was thick and non-balding.

Do you find your hair is the same?

Thanks.

[StressedToTheBald]

Sounds good, hope it keeps sprouting.

Can I ask you about the general texture of your hair, I am interested to know more about balding mens hair texture etc. I asked that grease question the other day which you helped me very much with the sebum issue....

Do you have much of a sebum issue yourself?

I find the texture of my hair is a little staw like and not as soft as when my hair was when I was 15 when it was thick and non-balding.

Do you find your hair is the same?

Thanks.

I hope so too, even the tiny hairs if they properly grow up and get colour, it might not be much, but it would feel like a small miracle to me. I just have to hope for the best, be persistant with my natural regimen and give it time.

I believe my scalp does get more oil than it needs. With regular wash I believe its less of a problem, but put cream, lotion or dare leave it a day without a wash and I think its gets way more oily than it should. It used to be much worse I think - I had severe acne in my 20s, cured it with accutane - but its a sword with two sides - my baldness rapidly increased in the meantime.

The texture of my hair is way too soft. Even where I'm not bald and have decent hair density - even my DHT resistant hair simply isn't brush strong but featherly soft. I recall in the past - one of the first comments at the barber's was that my hair is like straw. Can't say if this is baldness related. It may or not be, most likely as we inherit baldness we also inherit the type of hair - strength, colour and what else not. Sadly, most of what we are seems to be determined in advance and fixing what ain't right would be the scientific miracle - no one really knows how to fix genes.

[sausage]

Your hairs soft but someone said it was like straw?

Sorry I am a bit confused, is your hair soft or straw like these days?

I am trying to figure out if all balding people have the same/similar hair conditions.

To sum my hair/scalp conditions up, daily hair issues....

1. I have a lot of sebum, have to wash hair daily.

2. I have a pretty much constant noticable cold sensation on the bald part of my scalp.

3. In the summer my scalp easily gets burnt.

4. My hair texture is a bit of a dry slightly straw like texture.

[StressedToTheBald]

Yes. It was always soft, still is. The word straw was used to desribe poor quality, lightweight, not thick, no consistency.. in that sense it is like straw.

[sausage]

Yes. It was always soft, still is. The word straw was used to desribe poor quality, lightweight, not thick, no consistency.. in that sense it is like straw.

Soft, lightweight, thin hair does not sound straw like.

Thickish, prickly, and dry is how I'd describe mine = straw like.

I guess not all baldies have the same type of bald condition hair then.

I am going to get a transplant I think. I want it around April/May time. If it works then I am going straight to the girl of my dreams and ask her out, (thats if she's still single then). Time to be positive.

PS. I saw a gruesome image on here of a FUT transplant, someone had uploaded a graphic, hideous, sickening image of the back of someones head with a huge gash missing from their head. Yuck!!! absolutely sickening. No1 should ever get FUT.

[StressedToTheBald]

Soft, lightweight, thin hair does not sound straw like.

Thickish, prickly, and dry is how I'd describe mine = straw like.

I guess not all baldies have the same type of bald condition hair then.

I am going to get a transplant I think. I want it around April/May time. If it works then I am going straight to the girl of my dreams and ask her out, (thats if she's still single then). Time to be positive.

PS. I saw a gruesome image on here of a FUT transplant, someone had uploaded a graphic, hideous, sickening image of the back of someones head with a huge gash missing from their head. Yuck!!! absolutely sickening. No1 should ever get FUT.

Word interpretation aside, I surely have the opposite hair texture comparing to what You have.

Best of luck with HT. I do hope it all goes well. Also if You can find guarantees, that would be brilliant.

FUT is nightmare ! I wouldn't allow any surgeon to cut off a piece from the back of my head. It can't be done without serious scarring - then You end up having to 'cover' the scar with another transplant. Heres what I've found someone uses as a signature on another forum:

"F@(K it! No treatments. Nothing. Im done wasting money.
Dr. Thomas (scum) Wentland-1800 hairs, destroyed my life.
Dr. Ron Shapiro- 176 FUE into scar. Happy with results.
Buzzing my head no guard, happy except for the marks left from scumland, i mean Dr. wentland."

[sausage]

Heres what I've found someone uses as a signature on another forum:

"F@(K it! No treatments. Nothing. Im done wasting money.
Dr. Thomas (scum) Wentland-1800 hairs, destroyed my life.
Dr. Ron Shapiro- 176 FUE into scar. Happy with results.
Buzzing my head no guard, happy except for the marks left from scumland, i mean Dr. wentland."

Not a happy chappy.

At least Dr Wentland is not an IAHRS approved surgeon otherwise that reaction would be worrying to me. + I have 100% ruled out FUT arggghh, it hurts just thinking about it.

[clandestine]

StresseddToTheBald; What's your current regime?

[StressedToTheBald]

Not a happy chappy.

At least Dr Wentland is not an IAHRS approved surgeon otherwise that reaction would be worrying to me. + I have 100% ruled out FUT arggghh, it hurts just thinking about it.

I fully agree.

[StressedToTheBald]

StresseddToTheBald; What's your current regime?

I've already posted in the visitor's messages.
Here it is again.

My latest daily regimen* roughly consists of:
- 480mg beta sitosterol
- 2 x MSM 10% cream, topical
- 6 x 1000mg MSM tablets (currently out, awaiting new pack)
- 1 x B100mg complex, all B vitamins, high concentration
- 3 x C500mg with bioflavonids, biotin etc. Time Release tabs
- 2 x Full Spectrum Minerals, high concentration
- 3000mg+ arginine, 500mg+ taurine and other potent amino acids, all via protein shakes
- 3 x Apple Cider Vinegar, orally dissolved in water & randomly topical
- Nettle, Green and Black Tea, orally & randomly green topical
- garlic juice before shower, randomly, topical
- shampoos:
No. 1 with sage, rosemary, beer, zinc etc.
No. 2 with caffeine, arginine, barley etc.
etc.

*To be updated for time to time.

[StressedToTheBald]

Upped my dosage of beta sitosterol to 510mg, also now combined with 300mg of saw palmetto, 200mg pygeum africanum.. all daily. Some other changes as well, I will include a full list with more details soon.