30 : Thinning, Balding, Shedding (NO EJAC CAMPGAIN)

[Bald Dude]

I've been on various boards like most and felt like this place would be one of the best. Here's my situation.

Age: 30 Years Old

Problem:
-Shed at 2-3 inches of hair length. I'll occasionally see 1-2 inch hair fall out. But most of all, I have lost density and looking at my high school pictures, I can't seem to grow my hair out as long as before (roughly 5-6 inches) before genetic disposition.

Hereditary:
My mom has full head of hair. My dad was essentially the dominating gene, so I suspect I will follow him. He doesn't bald, but has thinned out a lot, still has length though.

Ejac:
Frequent and often.Every day, sometimes 2x a day on weekends.

Diet:
Eats everything and anything. I don't drink soda, but I binge drink alcohol on weekends.

Exercise:
I play sports 2-3x a week, rigorous cardio.

Tried Treatments:
I have tried minox, but it left my scalp red. I've tried DHT inhibitor products, but they didn't do much. I've tried rogaine, but not on a consistent basis. I however no longer use any hair styling products. Oddly when I was younger, I used an array, but my hair was stronger back then.

Plan:
I think a lot has to do w/ hormone levels, drinking and my ejac frequency. I have noticed that my hair just isn't the same as before (as obvious). So I plan to put this 'debatable' topic to the test. I am battling drinking problems and hope that a combination of abstinence and sobriety will yield me some results. After much reading, I think 1-3 months in, I will find clarity and report back to see if these lifestyle changes matter at all. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Who knows.

Anybody that has genuine insight, please post. I might do a weekly update. I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to take pictures just yet, but will report what I see and feel.

[cs2]

It is a good try, as there are not much personal experiences on hair regrowth by reducing ejaculation.

But I think 3 month is not long enough. Just like any hair regrowth product, you're better give it 6 month to one year of time. Hairs grow slowly.

[Bald Dude]

It is a good try, as there are not much personal experiences on hair regrowth by reducing ejaculation.

But I think 3 month is not long enough. Just like any hair regrowth product, you're better give it 6 month to one year of time. Hairs grow slowly.

Thank you for the encouragement. Maybe it works for me, maybe it doesn't. I tried to be as honest and give all the variables of my lifestyle. I do believe and I do think (as evident) that genetics play a big factor, but that doesn't mean I cannot control the variables.

I don't know of abstinence for 6 months is even possible, but I figured a genuine reduction will help.

After the initial week, I still do not notice much. My facial hair and hair on my head grow like normal. I still find my hair to fall out at about 2-4 inches in length. Granted when I was 20 or so, the longest I had was 7 inches, no Tom Brady length, but would be a miracle if that happened. lolz

[cs2]

Thank you for the encouragement. Maybe it works for me, maybe it doesn't. I tried to be as honest and give all the variables of my lifestyle. I do believe and I do think (as evident) that genetics play a big factor, but that doesn't mean I cannot control the variables.

I don't know of abstinence for 6 months is even possible, but I figured a genuine reduction will help.

After the initial week, I still do not notice much. My facial hair and hair on my head grow like normal. I still find my hair to fall out at about 2-4 inches in length. Granted when I was 20 or so, the longest I had was 7 inches, no Tom Brady length, but would be a miracle if that happened. lolz

I personally think (no scientific proof) that sex abstinence can help hair regrowth.

You are right. Genetic is a big factor, but we still HAVE to do something to fight for the hair.

It is hard to abstinence, especially at the beginning. Just dont think and touch any porn, it helps.

[Bald Dude]

It's been nearly a week and though I get occasional stresses from work, I have been clean this week.

I don't notice anything yet, but hope to update. I've begun taking Spirulina as a dietary supplement.

[BackwardsBalding]

One suggestion

I just wanted to drop by and give you a little advice. I want to make very clear that abstinence alone will not grow hair back. It will certainly slow down or stop any current hair loss. You need to battle decreased blood flow which comes with age and depending on your hair loss a tight scalp. Look up laxity exercises they use them for hair transplant surgery but I am absolutely convinced that this will also take the pressure off your scalp. That pressure is choking the tiny arteries that run to the top of your head. Don't do the laxity they suggest only do multiple locations around the head to stretch the entire scalp not just the back as needed for hair transplant. Also exercise is good but don't do heavy weight lifting it will increase DHT levels 15-30 minutes of cardio exercise at least 3 times per week should do. Make sure to get on a multi-vitamin with biotin and Zinc! Also complete abstinence is not needed but the less the better for sure and under no circumstance should you ejaculate back to back your body will steal directly from your hair to get the nutrients needed for sperm. Good luck let us know.

[AgainstThis]

You're all mental midgets.

Get lives.

We'll all be bald, we might as well ****.

PS One of you clowns show me one year before/after pics following his abstinence treatment and if his hair looks any better, I'll go be a ****ing MONK.

[BackwardsBalding]

You're all mental midgets.

Get lives.

We'll all be bald, we might as well ****.

PS One of you clowns show me one year before/after pics following his abstinence treatment and if his hair looks any better, I'll go be a ****ing MONK.

LOL. Complete Jackass. Who said you had to go to all that maybe just cutting back a little is the key.

[Bald Dude]

I wasn't able to go completely clean, and I haven't really seen much of any thing. I don't know, my hair seems to fall out at the same length, but I ain't seeing the really small ones. I haven't used much products like before as well. I'll try to keep to a very very low frequency, but that's just hard.

[Bald Dude]

Doesn't seem to work.

[clandestine]

OK I have read quite a bit of your material and certainly enough to get the gist of your proposition. You are quite correct on one point androgenic alopecia should not be considered a 'desease' nor should it be considered a disease.

As to the rest of your material I would say this is a perfect example of dicto simpliciter (look it up) and a healthy infusion of misinformation.

Your initial preamble (ramblings) are full of inaccuracies, here are a few examples to correct you.

* Not all androgenic alopecia (AA) starts at the temples or crown.

* Not all AA progresses to a full crown (bald head) loss.

* Contrary to 'your' belief science actually knows only a small fraction of the complex mechanism that results in AA.

* We don't know for certain that DHT is the main cause of hair loss, we do know that it appears that DHT is part of the mechanism involved. However even if DHT is integral it could for example be more to do with receptor site rather than DHT.

* We don't know if DHT is excessive in both the scalp and the blood stream in the majority of cases of AA and in fact there is no hard evidence to draw a cause and effect relationship as DHT levels can be identical in those with and those without AA, in fact it could be that the enzyme 5α-reductase is the culprit rather than DHT.

* Other mammals do have plenty of incidences of AA, notably the male Tsavo lions, dogs, macaques, and even our closest primate species the chimpanzee.

* Both the big cats, domesticated cats and host of other species will suffer from alopecia and a host of other health issues related to a nutrient deficient diet.

* We do not know that AA is caused by a hormonal 'in balance' (imbalance) in fact there is very little to support that those with men with AA have significantly different hormonal levels to those without AA.

* Some women do suffer with AA this appears to occur as oestrogen levels decline with age which has lead to the hypothesis that oestrogen has a protective role and as it declines women hair follicles are exposed to DHT leading to AA in a similar way to men. Though I stress this is unproven.

* Logically women and men are not exposed to the same gene pool, as a result of the 'XY' chromosomes vs 'XX', hence the reason we have sex linked diseases.

* There is absolutely no evidence that the prostate is the 'single cause for hair loss' nor have I seen any credible evidence to make such an assumption, the prostate is however regulated by DHT which is synthesized in the prostate, testes, hair follicles, and adrenal glands by the enzyme 5α-reductase.

* There is no credible evidence to suggest that ejaculation has anything other than a transitory effect on DHT, in fact if we take your own results on face value your DHT level actually fell below the pre ejaculation level a short time after. And once again I stress that there is no credible evidence that those with AA have significantly different serum DHT levels to those without it.

* There is evidence of a potential increase in both benign prostatic hyperplasia and cancer of the prostate in those with low levels of sexual activity (ejaculation), you may like to think of this as clearing the pipes if you like.

Overwhelmingly the evidence is that AA is a genetically determined outcome, we can see evidence of this all around us in our groups of family and friends. The mere fact that such a high percentage of men will experience AA is sufficient to conclude that it is a natural process that most will experience to a greater or lesser degree.

Whilst we all may like to delay the loss of a youthful appearance lets not lose perspective and engage in silly and potentially unhealthy self abuse.

Read this. Read it carefully. Abstinence won't do you a thing. Read it, understand it.