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  • Fairly
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 12

    #16
    I have lost hair on minoxidil but not a huge amount in about ten years. I have decided to stop taking saw palmetto today. All it seems to do is make my hair thin and give me stomach ache. I have stopped the spiro 5% I was using because it stunk and was making my hair thin. Back to the minoxidil on its own...my hair has thinned a lot in the past 6 months which I am gutted about. It really isn't a big deal to use. Get up shave, brush teeth, wash face, apply 1ml of fluid to my hair and rub in. Takes a minute.

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    • Samiam
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 268

      #17
      Thanks for your reply fairly yea that palmetto junk.is garbage it just sucks when you try something to grow back hairs and halt any hairloss you might have and get the opposite reaction. That's odd that spiro did that have you looked at 15 percent minox??

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      • UK_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2691

        #18
        Originally posted by Samiam
        Thanks for your reply fairly yea that palmetto junk.is garbage it just sucks when you try something to grow back hairs and halt any hairloss you might have and get the opposite reaction. That's odd that spiro did that have you looked at 15 percent minox??
        Saw palmetto wont do jack - you need a strong DHT inhibitor, but ill be damed if I ever decide to take one of them! At 17 get a doctors opinion before taking finasteride.

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        • Samiam
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 268

          #19
          Yea I'm not trying to take fin I'm just hoping that I have great results from minox.

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          • Fairly
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 12

            #20
            I think you should avoid the finasteride too dude. I am quite averse to taking anything like that. I'm sure it has worked for many guys but I'd rather leave my hormones alone. I don't know why I tried saw palmetto. I think you assume because it's 'natural' its somehow better. Good luck with the minoxidil. I was going to try 15% but the 5% is really cheap so I am just going to try doubling it for a while to see what happens. Plus I have got 'hair muck' now which you mix in with it. Going to see what happens.

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            • BaldingBackwards
              Inactive
              • Jun 2011
              • 27

              #21
              Propcia was made to do what it does shrinks the prostate. The prostate is where most of the DHT in your body is made. You can abtain this same affect naturally by using your prostate less (decrease ejaculations).

              Rogaine is a vasodilator. Rogaine is good at dilating however exercise thus creating Nitric Oxide is even better. 30 minutes of exercise per day will do and cold showers also dilate blood vessels both of which will work for most of your head. For some there heads become tight and a scalp laxity exercise will be very helpfull in the frontal region however that doesn't seem to be the case for you. Good luck buddy.

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              • PatientlyWaiting
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1637

                #22
                Originally posted by Fairly
                I've been using regaine then generic minoxidil since my early twenties. I can honestly say I would have been bald years ago without it and I'm thirty four now. Do yourself a favour and start today. Check the side effects though. Personal experience wise don't use it on damp or wet hair. It enhances systemic effects. It occasionally makes me a bit dizzy after using it and feel my heart skipping a beat when using it on damp hair. I've decided to try doubling the dose now because it seems to have lost its effectiveness. I've had a good run on it though. Buy generic incidentally. Same as branded only cheaper. You need to give it a year too. Good luck.
                This.

                I am at a younger age, and started at a younger age, 16-17, and like the gentlemen I quoted, I would have been bald by now if I never got on Propecia/Generic Fin and Rogaine/Kirklands.


                These drugs are no miracles, they are treatments. They will not get you all your hair back, hell, they might not even get anything back, but one thing they will do is at least slow the process down.

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                • Samiam
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 268

                  #23
                  Trust me I already heard about this ejaculation thing n haven't wanked off in 2 months and ive abstained fron sex. I don't exercise anymore cuz I heard that can lead to an increase in testosterone. The shed was either brought on by two things, the palmetto and the msm. I do know the palmetto also increased my libido. Funny thing is lately I've noticed A LOT of baby hairs popped up on ny hairline. Idk if thus was from the msm or palmetto or biotin pills and shampoo I've been using.

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                  • Ailouda
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 6

                    #24
                    Hi PatientlyWaiting, plz let me know where do you buy generic fin and minox, price? Thank you

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                    • Samiam
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 268

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ailouda
                      Hi PatientlyWaiting, plz let me know where do you buy generic fin and minox, price? Thank you
                      You can buy generic minox at Walmart, meijer, etc. Hell rogaine is on eBay for a decent price. Idk about fin.

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                      • BackwardsBalding
                        Inactive
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 236

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Samiam
                        Trust me I already heard about this ejaculation thing n haven't wanked off in 2 months and ive abstained fron sex. I don't exercise anymore cuz I heard that can lead to an increase in testosterone. The shed was either brought on by two things, the palmetto and the msm. I do know the palmetto also increased my libido. Funny thing is lately I've noticed A LOT of baby hairs popped up on ny hairline. Idk if thus was from the msm or palmetto or biotin pills and shampoo I've been using.
                        Glad to see the baby hairs are also coming up for you and my friend those are from abstaining from ejaculations not from shampoo, biotin, or saw palmetto so keep it up. Testosterone does not increase hair growth and your mucles use it when you work out so if anything working out will help however the loss of Zinc during working out is the thing worry about so make sure to take extra during times of weight training. Cardio on the other hand is how you create Nitric Oxide in your blood and dilate your blood vessels this is key in hair growth so get out and do a light jog for 15-30 minutes every day I promise you wont regret it. Even a brisk walk would be a good place to start and finish as long as you break a sweat.

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                        • Samiam
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 268

                          #27
                          Originally posted by BackwardsBalding
                          Glad to see the baby hairs are also coming up for you and my friend those are from abstaining from ejaculations

                          If this was true this would be the BIGGEST relief in everyones lives but i find that hard to believe. Also some friends are starting to think im a little weird for this abstinene thing but hey if it saves peoples hairs i wouldn't give two shits. I dont think this would be true though.

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                          • BackwardsBalding
                            Inactive
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 236

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Samiam
                            If this was true this would be the BIGGEST relief in everyones lives but i find that hard to believe. Also some friends are starting to think im a little weird for this abstinene thing but hey if it saves peoples hairs i wouldn't give two shits. I dont think this would be true though.
                            Just keep it up buddy and don't get on any other crap so that you can attribute it to the ejaculation decreases. And don't worry my hole family thought I was looney when I first came up with this theory but now I have convinced them all and have a few of them trying to convince me to sell it on a website I refused it just doesn't seem profitable being common knowledge and all. Any way what have you noticed sense you quite ejaculating besides the excess energy? Decreased oil in your hair, thicker, stand up better, anything?

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                            • DepressedByHairLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 854

                              #29
                              I know guys, that's what pisses me off more than anything. That in this day and age all we have for options to treat hair loss are Rogaine and Propecia. And these drugs weren't even meant to treat hair loss in the first place. We really need a lot more options cus I don't think that most guys (including myself) want to scar their heads for life with a hair transplant.

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                              • Samiam
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 268

                                #30
                                Originally posted by BackwardsBalding
                                Just keep it up buddy and don't get on any other crap so that you can attribute it to the ejaculation decreases. And don't worry my hole family thought I was looney when I first came up with this theory but now I have convinced them all and have a few of them trying to convince me to sell it on a website I refused it just doesn't seem profitable being common knowledge and all. Any way what have you noticed sense you quite ejaculating besides the excess energy? Decreased oil in your hair, thicker, stand up better, anything?
                                my hairs were actually feeling pretty good till I took this palmetto garbage and started shedding insanely

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