Do I have MPB or is it stress?

[ThinFast]

She didn't get back to me yet. An in person consultation won't happen due to me being in the U.S. I left it up to her as to how a "virtual consultation" will take place. She asked for the magnified pictures of my scalp, I'm not certain if this is something she does at her practice.

[Fruit59]

Yeah when i was there she does exactly that.

[appleguy]

I'm refusing to look mate, getting two mirrors and checking the top of my head REALLY gets me down so I refuse to look.
I'm already obsessed with my hairline and I don't need to be analyzing my crown as well, I'll wait to see what the lady says about it.
Seems to have completely stopped the shedding, as for regrowth I was getting a little bit when I saw her last but she said it was way to early to tell.
I see her again a week on Wednesday. Find out more then.

I do know mine was stress related and I know that even after this condition is gone it can take awhile for the follicles to wake up again so I'm biding my time.

[VictimOfDHT]

Man, this is like me. I try to avoid looking at the top of my head using 2 mirrors but sometimes you can't help it. Although I still have hair, just seeing how thinner it's gotten I feel like I'm going to collapse. It makes my legs weak. This is just so ****ing cruel.

[appleguy]

You guys need to check out the HM threads over at ************
They really cheered me up. Those guys are really in the know and keep up to date with research coming out, I find this site a bit lax on the research side of things and only point out the blatantly obvious stuff.
Genetics and stem cell therapy's are seriously kicking off now as well as potentially infinite donor for HT's. We will start seeing the market results for injectables (replicel is looking very exciting as it's underlining research has been confirmed by non pharmaceutical doctors as being bang on the money.) Looks like 2012 will be a really exciting year for hairloss sufferers.

[Fruit59]

When you say completely stopped shedding, are you losing any hairs in the shower/when you put the scalp pack on ?

Just out of interest how many times have you used the scalp pack so far ?

Thanks
F

[appleguy]

Used it about six or seven times and yes loads of hair comes out when I use it. Also I still get the occasional shed day like today but Donna said I could continue shedding up to 12 weeks after starting treatment.

[Fruit59]

Ahh i see, thanks for the info. Let us know how your consultation goes.

Thanks
F

[VictimOfDHT]

What is the treatment you're on ? Is it the same one you talked about before ? I'm wondering if it's anti fungal ?

[Serge808]

I wish u the best of luck bro cuz I sorta can understand at least a bit half way
Cuz I too had and still do have anxiety and depression all the time and
I still can't completely tell what my hairloss is caused by. And I too had the terrible stressand anxiety problems that were about a year and a half or so ago. So several months later
I was hella shedding from everywhere i would lose he'll of lot of hair I could just run my hand through myhead and get like 50 hairs out every dam time.
I sorta wish I new what exactly what's wrong u know even though my doctor prescribed me proscar tabs. I don't
even for sure know that it's helping becuz I'm still losing alot of hair every moth it feels thinner and thinner and I can even
see my scalp. anyway I just started on spectral dnc this minox based product Wich comes with alot of hopefuy good herbs and vitamines wich then are encapsulated into microspheres wich are supposed to work to some extent better than regular minox It supper to Be used for different kinds of hairlosses at
least that's what it says on the directions. That It work well to
improve those who have hairloss do to to stress, so either way I'll see what's up in 3 moths after this product. Anyway I still got hope and I really hope ur codition gets better.

[Serge808]

Sorry guys if it's terrible to understand I know I misspelled whole buch it is just this on my iPod.

[Fruit59]

Victim,

I am not sure if its anti fungal or not, none of the products have any sort of different label to help distinguish them from each other.

One is a scalp pack which is like a thick hand cream which you have to place on your scalp and leave it in for 1 hour then shampoo it out.

The other is a shampoo which you use 3 times a week.

Lastly there is a Nanex OP spray which we spray on our scalp before we go to bed. This does not require to be washed out.

Apple might know if its anti fungal or not.

Cheers F59

[VictimOfDHT]

No we understand, serge. Sounds like what I'm going thru. It's nothing short of a nightmare. I hope the stuff works for you.


Thanks for the reply, fruit. I'm thinking about using Mico cream. I know there used to be a lot of noise about this stuff and now it's hardly mentioned any more.

[ThinFast]

Hey guys, it's been a hectic couple weeks for me, but I have had email correspondence back and forth with Donna. She said that while it would obviously be better to see me in person, that there does seem to be evidence of seborrhoiec dermatiitis. She also said there were other clues of it, such as me experiencing an excessive diffuse loss and that my hair needs to be washed so frequently. Also the white " club " being attached at the end of the hairs that always fall out. In addition, she theorized that the lack of results I see from products like Minoxidil, Propecia, and Avodart could all have been due to this. She said that once the follicles become unclogged, those products may be much more effective.

My diet, although healthy for your body overall apparently has been contributing to my problem. Back in January/February of this year, I switched over my diet from an all around low fat diet to one loaded with healthy fats (monounsaturated, polyunsaturated, and Omega 3's). She said that while this is extremely healthy for the body, it will only cause the seborrhoiec dermatitis to get worse as the fatty oils will contribute to more oil being produced by the sebaceous glands and more clogging of the follicles. Ironically, I have perceived an apparent acceleration of my hair loss this year. I thought this may have been due to job stress and stress from losing my hair in the first place, as well as losing hair when you already have less on your head to begin with may make those parts of scalp finally show through. Now I'm starting to wonder if it was the change in my diet.

Interestingly, she also said that shampoos like nizoral can sometimes exacerbate this type of problem as well. I've put an order in for the scalp pack and shampoo that Appleguy is taking. Hopefully, she'll get those products over to me soon and I can begin treatment. Any updates for Appleguy or Fruit?

[VictimOfDHT]

You know, I really don't buy all that "follicle clogging" they keep telling us about. Hair loss isn't caused by the follicle being clogged especially not due to oily build up.