Do I have MPB or is it stress?

[ThinFast]

I'm curious... so the hair that's falling out with the white bulb attached is a sign of TE? I thought it was also just a sign of MPB? I ask b/c since I noticed my hair rapidly falling out 3 years ago, every single hair that I've seen come out of my head has the white bulb attached to the end. My hair also gets greasy very quickly. If I don't shampoo everyday, it looks awful. I never considered TE as an additional possibility before to my hair loss.

[Fruit59]

Appleguy,

Could i just ask are you still using the horrible putty in your hair? and roughly how many hairs are you losing when you put this in your hair and then shampoo the stuff out ?

Thanks
Fruit59

[VictimOfDHT]

So if someone has this TE, is there anything they can do about it ? This isn't like MPB.

[appleguy]

Thin fast and victim of DHT
do a tug test grab between your forefinger a thumb and clump of hair and give it a couple of small yanks, if four or more hairs come out you have TE and it is reversible. Excessive shedding isn't MPB especially long hairs with white blubs at the end.
If it is TE (TE is a symptom by the way not the root cause) you can do something about it visit a dermatologist and getting the right treatment and after awhile it will grow back. Mine it seems was caused by this horrific year of financial hell I went through last year.

Hi Fruit,

Yeah I have that horrible putty, well it's more like thick hand-cream you have to rub in and yes I get loads of hairs coming out as a result. It's the worst part of the treatment because you have to torture your head with this crap and there's hairs all over your hands and comb and then when you shower you see so many hairs come out but it looks like it is a necessary evil.

When I first started the treatment I plagued Donna at the Trichology clinic with phone calls but you have to chill the f**k out and wait unfortunately this is why I'm trying my best to ignore these forums because it's become something of an obsession now.

I do have MPB but not super bad, I have receding temples. It is something I have had for five years now but I completely didn't see it. I even convinced myself that I had lost my temple hair through rigourous drying of my hair over the years now I seemed to have opened up this problem that I now dwell over which isn't good.
I have good days and bad sometimes I really chill out especially when I look at the treatments coming out. the next five years are going to be very exciting in terms of beating MPB, in fact I was thinking to myself how six weeks ago everyone was claiming FUT was better than FUE now everyone is condemning FUT due to recent stem cell advances which would mean FUT losing a strip of stem cell bearing skin which could be used in HM.
six weeks and the game has changed so much.
In fact attitudes seem to be changing. check out the conversations going on at the forums on ************.
Everyone seems to be very upbeat about future treatments coming out, there's even rumours Aderans are rushing to the market now because they believe super badass MPB treatments are right around the corner which will kill their products in a short space of time.
There's also this work being done by Gho and th super fast nature of developing stem cell treatments not to mention Dr. Costarelis's products coming out which seem to be a symptom free treatment for complete hair restoration
I don't know if hair transplants will be gone in five years but they will be very different, less invasive and more akin to HM and more along the lines of a Botox injection in terms of stigma.
I don't know if my MPB is going to get any worse but I am glad that I am suffering it in today's modern age.

I am definitely seeing less shedding around the treatment though when I do tug tests I don't lose many hairs at all now.

[Fruit59]

Thanks for the speedy reply, yeah i am only 1 week into the treatment and have just been to my checkup after 1 week, but i have used the scalp pack twice now. Donna said i am responding well to the treatment and should see re growth by the 4 week mark. So now have to wait another 4 weeks and use that pack. I just hope i get back what i have lost, but i do know for sure that the stuff is working before when i did the tug test i could esy pull 3-4 hairs each time and atm when I tug I barely get one hair!

I am not entirely sure if you`ll know the answer to this but does the dermatitis need to completely clear before you see regrowth or will you see regrowth in areas where the dermatitis has cleared up?

Thanks F59

[appleguy]

I had a bit of regrowth like a few sparse hairs hear and there but she said to me it was way to early to tell. Clearly my condition must be a bit more harsh than yours.
As I mentioned earlier I had a minor relapse where it came out again after the 4 week mark which shows that mine must be relatively severe.

I'd assume it does need to clear up completely before you get mass regrowth at least it makes sense to me anyhow, I could be wrong. As Mine was stress related it could be awhile after the SD symptoms have gone that I start to regrow.
Kind if a little scary really because I have no idea how much regrowth I expect to get back as I never monitored my crown for standard MPB.

Nothing left I can do but wait really.

Funny I was thinking only the other day how little thought I ever gave to losing my hair and I always thought if it gets to that I'd just shave it off. Now I'm damn near obsessed and really scared of losing my hair to the point where I am always checking future cures for this stuff on numerous websites. Sometimes I'm up...sometimes down.

[Fruit59]

Yeah I think about it loads as well. Before I started losing hair, like most i never even gave it a thought, I didnt even notice or think twice about how much hair other people had. Now i find my self looking at everyones hair comparing their hairline etc there isnt a day that goes by i dont think about it. I need to start concentrating on other things while this condition clears up.

With respect to diet what have you been recommended to do ?

[appleguy]

I was told more greens fruit veg specific veg as well I can't remember what exactly I have a list somewhere. Unfortunately in my position I cannot accommodate those things so I just take centrum multi vitamins.

Best I can do right now.

And yes I'm doing nothing but staring at peoples hairlines now, kind of aggravating.
Most people have said I was suit having a shaved head but I would much rather have the choice than the absolute.

[Fruit59]

I have been told avoid cheese and fish supplements, i think these two cause more oil on the scalp? Yep I am on Centrum and eat plenty of fruits veg etc just all he things that are generally good for you anyway.

I had eczema as a child and very very mild eczema now so i am now monitoring my foods more closely no eggs, dairy products etcc Ohh and a vit c drink at meal times.

I think i would hate a shaved head, choice or no choice. I suit a short ish hairstyle but not shaved.

Oh well just got to wait...

F

[VictimOfDHT]

Thanks, appleguy. I hope you're right about these future treatments (coming out soon). I really don't know if I'm going to be alive when they do come out. I feel like the stress from this god damn curse is going to kill me. I have never ever experienced the stress I am experiencing now. I lost a lot of hair in the past 4-5 months it's actually changed my hair line, a lot. I know this shedding can't be MPB. Hair doesn't just fall out so rapidly like that. Almost all the hairs I'm losing are strong thick hairs. I am suffering from MPB and have been fighting it for the past 13-14 years but I just don't know what the **** is going on now that's causing my hair to fall like rain. We don't have trichologists here, and I don't think dermatologists will have an answer either. So I don't know what to do even if it is TE.

Fruit, I'm the same. I'm always checking out people's hair too and comparing mine to theirs. And my hair is all I think about for the past 5 months (since this horrible shed started).

[Fruit59]

I know its horrible, people who dont suffer have no idea ! I know this sounds sooo bad but i cant help but look at some girls/women the ones who just know they are good looking and i think to myself if you were balding/bald your attitude would be so different its untrue !! I hate this ****

[ThinFast]

I sent the Manchester clinic an email tonight, hopefully they or Donna will get back to me. I'm fairly convinced that an overly greasy scalp is the root of most of my problems. Not saying that I don't have any MPB, I know I do, but I've always questioned how rapid my hair would fall out and never seem to grow back. I also have extremely greasy hair after one day and have taken pictures of the little puddles forming around my follicles using my Proscope camera. Short hairs and long hairs have fallen out (up to 70-80/shower), all with the white club attached at the end.

This also might explain why a product like Minoxidil has no positive effect on me. I've always wondered how it could possibly get down in the follicle when the follice is already flooded on the surface with excess sebum. Also why Propecia and high levels of Avodart did nothing, DHT wasn't really the issue for me. I really hope they get back to me, I'd love to start taking care of this issue ASAP.

[Fruit59]

Hi Thinfast,

I would phone them and get a consultation asap, she is v busy and may only be able to see you in over two weeks.

Keep us posted on what she recommends, and the condition she diagnosis.

Cheers
F59

[ThinFast]

I received a reply from Donna earlier today. She asked me for some pictures and information about my health and diet. Just sent it all back, hopefully she can help point me in the right direction. I am very impressed and excited that she responded to me so promptly.

[Fruit59]

Apple,

How are you doing with the stuff you have been given? Could i just ask how long have you been using the products? and are you starting to see some regrowth?

Thinfast,

What did donna say about your pictures/condition, do you have to go for a consultation ?

Cheers
F