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  • Mr. 4000
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 288

    When is it time to taking legal action?

    This is a topic that is avoided because doctors can't stand this looming over their profits

    I had a bad result and was mislead and deceived by my doctor and his staff and some people have read my posts on this board.

    The story is long so I will highlight the important stuff:

    Sales rep lured me in saying that the doctor was great never had a bad result and was capable of doing one pass results. He could easily do a session of 4000 grafts or more and wouldn't have to shave my head either (deal breaker)

    I was quoted 3000-3500 grafts during consult, with absolutely no concerns and that he was confident I was a great candidate. NO warnings, no what if's, no concerns what so ever.

    I flew across the country, and during the pre op he constructed the hairline and spoke about the crown being a priority.

    I get in the chair and he goes to work, doesn't follow the pre op lines at all and shaves my head. I didn't know this until after the procedure...

    Not only that, he injured my neck and it is giving me trouble to this day. Whenever I engage my shoulders or neck I have pain. I have atrophy in the muscles where the damage has occurred and a lump (which I am guessing is where he cut me and scare tissue has formed)

    ** my scalp is tighter than ever and bothers me everyday, when I smile, laugh, raise my eyebrows, talk for long periods of time tension increases in my scalp. I feel my doctor miscalculated something or created to much tension closing the donor, or both.

    He claims the scalp doesn't move as one piece, I think he sounds like an idiot making a statement like that being a certified doctor in this practice.

    -I have tension along the scar which feels like it is pulling.
    -I have thinning from him over stretching my scalp, which will take 10's of thousands of dollars to fix.
    -One of his staff has been very inconsiderate, even to the point where she was laughing as she hung up the phone, just very childish and unprofessional.

    I spoke with the doctor several times as he promised to offer a solution, but has never give one after 2 long conversations. I asked what he is putting on the table for screwing up my head. He doesn't respond and asked for more pictures.

    He has never taking ownership of any of these problems, he claims to have a perfect 8 years of doing work, and never heard of a problem in any of these areas. I laugh at this notion. He is full of shit to say he has a perfect track record. I have seen blogs that state otherwise.

    He asked me to call him and he would offer a solution, but after again, two calls, nothing has been resolved

    He has plenty of pictures of how he butchered me but knows the clock is ticking on the limitations of a lawsuit.

    I have a lawyer, what should I do next?

    Are there any attorneys that post on this board?
  • shadow of the empire
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 1

    #2
    Originally posted by Mr. 4000
    He has plenty of pictures of how he butchered me but knows the clock is ticking on the limitations of a lawsuit.
    I have a lawyer, what should I do next?
    If you have a competent lawyer, you should probably follow your lawyer's advice.

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    • KeepTheHair
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 1215

      #3
      Why not out him here? Might prevent someone from falling for the same thing.

      THIS is exactly why I haven't gotten a procedure done yet. Results can't be gauranteed. Most doctors also don't give a rats azz about you once you've handed over the $$$.

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      • Davidmr
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 8

        #4
        Agree with above post, did you go to an IAHRS surgeon ? please save the rest of us from this person...

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        • mattj
          Doctor Representative
          • Oct 2009
          • 1421

          #5
          Have you tried doing the exercises that clinics instruct their patients to do pre-op to loosen up the scalp at the donor region? Obviously this is done before the transplant to ensure maximum laxity for donor strip removal, but it could possibly be of benefit to a patient who is experiencing scalp tightness post-op. (Assuming you're well past the initial healing stage when it wouldn't be advisable to put that sort of tension on the area in case the scar stretches).
          I am a patient and representative of Dr Rahal

          My FUE With Dr Rahal - Awesome Hairline Result

          I can be contacted for advice: matt@rahalhairline.com

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          • Mr. 4000
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 288

            #6
            Originally posted by KeepTheHair
            Why not out him here? Might prevent someone from falling for the same thing.

            THIS is exactly why I haven't gotten a procedure done yet. Results can't be gauranteed. Most doctors also don't give a rats azz about you once you've handed over the $$$.
            that is exactly how I feel about my doctor at this time. I hope he tries to help me, but if he doesn't I will surely mention his name.

            I can't out him here, this may sound selfish, but I can't care about helping others with the situation I am in.

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            • Mr. 4000
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 288

              #7
              Originally posted by Davidmr
              Agree with above post, did you go to an IAHRS surgeon ? please save the rest of us from this person...
              yes.................

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              • Mr. 4000
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 288

                #8
                Originally posted by mattj
                Have you tried doing the exercises that clinics instruct their patients to do pre-op to loosen up the scalp at the donor region? Obviously this is done before the transplant to ensure maximum laxity for donor strip removal, but it could possibly be of benefit to a patient who is experiencing scalp tightness post-op. (Assuming you're well past the initial healing stage when it wouldn't be advisable to put that sort of tension on the area in case the scar stretches).
                thank you Matt, I will try to see if that helps

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                • level
                  Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 98

                  #9
                  "I can't out him here, this may sound selfish, but I can't care about helping others with the situation I am in."[/QUOTE]

                  So you come on this site for help/advice, but you can't care about helping others? You're a douche, dude!

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                  • Mr. 4000
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 288

                    #10
                    Originally posted by level
                    "I can't out him here, this may sound selfish, but I can't care about helping others with the situation I am in."


                    What doctor are you planing on using? If it is my doctor I will tell you through email.

                    So no, not at this time, I won't because of legal issues, but if you want help there is a site that has real patients and blogs that can help you.

                    I have one and if the doctor I used is on your list, you will read my story.

                    So I can't help you directly here at this time.

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                    • gmonasco
                      Inactive
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 865

                      #11
                      I have a lawyer, what should I do next?
                      What is the result you're hoping to obtain through legal action? A refund for your procedure? Compensation for pain and suffering? Forcing the doctor to address your issues? Sanctions against the doctor? Any kind of judgement in your favor in order to feel vindicated?

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                      • vassall
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1

                        #12
                        agree!!!!

                        My HT doctor acted the same way when I went to his office complaining about a bad result. Before my HT, I had thin hair on the top, but it wasn't horrible. Since I live in PA, I went to Dr. P (in Marlton, NJ). You should do a service to all members on this site and out this guy!!!!!!! I was ripped off too, but you have to eat it up.

                        18 months after the procedure, I had significant hair loss in the crown area. The grafts were placed in the crown and they are literally growing crooked and he couldn't see that when I visited his office. I ask anyone considering a HT to think hard about that decision. The disappointment can be worst the wish for new hair.

                        I didn't gain any hairs instead lost more hair in my crown area.

                        I'm staying on Propecia and that's it. These doctors don't care about your appearance. It is really sad. You come to this website and hope there are good physicians who went into the field to actually help us balding individuals, but it turns out NO. I'm beginning to wonder the integrity of this IHRS organization.

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                        • Mr. 4000
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 288

                          #13
                          Originally posted by gmonasco
                          What is the result you're hoping to obtain through legal action? A refund for your procedure? Compensation for pain and suffering? Forcing the doctor to address your issues? Sanctions against the doctor? Any kind of judgement in your favor in order to feel vindicated?
                          I think in any situation you have to look at the big picture and the future.

                          I don't know the specific law or the past court rulings (that why I have a lawyer), but from a personal stand I have to say that there is a lot of damage done. Some of this can not be undone.

                          My doctor put me in a horrible position

                          I cant have another strip done, because of his poor work (scalp is very very tight) I took him a long time to close the donor, he said he was taking his time and at one point he became very upset and sighed in disgust with his only his assistant and myself in the room.

                          He injured my neck, this is in the same area in which he struggled to close the donor area. I am very convinced he slipped. I have a lump which I feel is either a muscle or tendon rolled up or scar tissue from a puncture.

                          The consults were 100% worthless, he never followed one thing we agreed to. We agreed to have a procedure unshaved, never happened.

                          I wanted the hairline lowered a little bit, and he placed it behind the existing hairline. Now I have hair growing in front of his work. A total waste of money, Transplanting over native hair. He said he followed the lines he drew, and for that to be true he would have had to draw the line in my existing hair which would have meant they wouldn't have been on my forehead like my pre-op pictures. Result is my forehead and temples are much more exposed ( I don't think anyone is going for that look, the I want to look older with my new higher hairline) what a horrible doctor.

                          I will have to spend 15-20% more on a fix because of this guy. I will need FUE, NO WAY will I ever have strip done or could I risk stripe again.

                          Here is a funny one, he claimed the scalp only moves on the sides and back, so there is no way I could have thinning from him stretching my scalp on top. If I look in the mirror, and pull my scalp down from my forehead the back moves. Its that easy to disprove this guy. Some of the things he said to me are just laughable. I mean if what he says is true how would the head even swell on the top?

                          He is just lying to me hoping I buy it and move on, but that isn't going to be the case. He said he wanted me to be satisfied, which I found to be a huge positive, but we talked twice and I always end the conversation with one question, what offer are you putting on the table, he offers nothing.

                          I have no choice but to take legal action at this point, my limitations end this summer

                          by the way my doctor is on this site

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                          • Mr. 4000
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 288

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vassall
                            My HT doctor acted the same way when I went to his office complaining about a bad result. Before my HT, I had thin hair on the top, but it wasn't horrible. Since I live in PA, I went to Dr. P (in Marlton, NJ). You should do a service to all members on this site and out this guy!!!!!!! I was ripped off too, but you have to eat it up.

                            18 months after the procedure, I had significant hair loss in the crown area. The grafts were placed in the crown and they are literally growing crooked and he couldn't see that when I visited his office. I ask anyone considering a HT to think hard about that decision. The disappointment can be worst the wish for new hair.

                            I didn't gain any hairs instead lost more hair in my crown area.

                            I'm staying on Propecia and that's it. These doctors don't care about your appearance. It is really sad. You come to this website and hope there are good physicians who went into the field to actually help us balding individuals, but it turns out NO. I'm beginning to wonder the integrity of this IHRS organization.
                            couldn't agree more, and my net gain I paid for over 7000 hairs for the top of my head. I wish I knew my net gain. My hair has never been thinner, never. My hairline grafts are also poorly place and in the wrong direction as my native hair, but that is one of many thing for all that has gone wrong. I comb my hair left and the grafts go right. It is a joke.

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                            • gmonasco
                              Inactive
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 865

                              #15
                              I have no choice but to take legal action at this point, my limitations end this summer.
                              Okay, but you still haven't explained what you're hoping to accomplish through legal action; you merely reiterated why you feel you were wronged.

                              Just as in the decision to get a hair transplant in the first place, you really have to think very deeply and carefully about what you hope to gain through pursuing a lawsuit. Otherwise you risk another large investment of time and money and emotion for a result you may also find deeply unsatisfying.

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