Hello new here and need some advice :))

[mikey79]

I am a 30 year old male and recently embarked on a mission to stop my thinning hair and hopefully regrow new hair. I went to a few places, (I live in Toronto, Canada), one was called Hair Club, they suggested a natural hair wash along with laser comb. I went to another clinic which told me to do a similar thing.

I have been doing the following program, go in 3 times a week for a deep scalp wash I guess, they apply some natural formula to my scalp then I wear a heating cap for 15 min intervals, along with this I get laser done at the clinic. At home I have special shampoo and topical solution (all natural) which I apply on days when I do not go into the clinic. Along with this I take natural supplements which are supposed to stop DHT, called Prvovillus.

This is a pretty expensive procedure i have paid about $2500 so far in 4 months and have not seen any results. The doctor keeps telling me that things are looking better and these things take time.

Has anyone ever done something similar to this, does it work? Should I stop wasting my money or continue?

[Laserhead]

I am a 30 year old male and recently embarked on a mission to stop my thinning hair and hopefully regrow new hair. I went to a few places, (I live in Toronto, Canada), one was called Hair Club, they suggested a natural hair wash along with laser comb. I went to another clinic which told me to do a similar thing.

I have been doing the following program, go in 3 times a week for a deep scalp wash I guess, they apply some natural formula to my scalp then I wear a heating cap for 15 min intervals, along with this I get laser done at the clinic. At home I have special shampoo and topical solution (all natural) which I apply on days when I do not go into the clinic. Along with this I take natural supplements which are supposed to stop DHT, called Prvovillus.

This is a pretty expensive procedure i have paid about $2500 so far in 4 months and have not seen any results. The doctor keeps telling me that things are looking better and these things take time.

Has anyone ever done something similar to this, does it work? Should I stop wasting my money or continue?

Here's some advice. STOP throwing your money down the drain!. I haven't heard of the heating cap thing but it sounds ghetto. I spent a lot of money and wasted a lot of time on Laser therapy which does not work!!! I've learned everything I need to know since I found this site and the radio show. I also read the entire American Hair Loss Association website and you should too!

I almost purchased Provillus until I got an education here. Check out this post.

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=221&highlight=provillus

[TeeJay73]

I have to agree with Laserhead. Unfortunately it sounds liek you may have fallen victim to an elaborate hoax. I'd get out of it if I were you. Shampoos and heating helmets don't do jack for hair.

Get yourself on Propecia - it is the ONE of ONLY TWO true proven remedies for hair loss treatment. Check out thebaldtruth.com - there's a new, really good Propecia article on it. You can get a prescription for Propecia with relative ease from a hair loss treatment doctor. You can find these kind-hearted souls on www.iahrs.org. None of these doctors would steer you in the direction you're in.

Another idea for you would be to ask this clinic you have been seeing some really HARD questions:

Can you see before/after photos?
Exactly when can you expect to see results? (You're at 4 months now, and I'd be suspicious too).
Can you meet patients that have undergone their treatment to assess their results?
Are they connected in any way to the FDA or AHLA?
Will they guarantee your money back if you don't get results?
Can you pay AFTER you get results?
How long have they been in business? How many UNSATISFIED patients do they have in comparison to satisfied patients?

Don't feel bad man, we ALL make mistakes. Laserhead went the lasercomb route, and I tried bogus shampoos and had a surgery when I really didn't even need it.

Good news is that it sounds like you're in your early hair loss days. GET YOURSELF ON PROPECIA ASAP!! You'll have an 80% or more chance of maintaining your current hair and a 60% chance of regrowth!

Good luck man!

TeeJay

[Zao]

Smells like a big scam. Get on Propecia ASAP.

[mikey79]

Hey everyone and thanks for the replies. I will have another meeting with the doctor. Now I noticed everyone on this site is pro Propecia..lol I hope this is not a site that markets that product..

[SpencerKobren]

Hey everyone and thanks for the replies. I will have another meeting with the doctor. Now I noticed everyone on this site is pro Propecia..lol I hope this is not a site that markets that product..

The guys have given you honest and sound advice. To learn more about this site read my introductory message.

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=60

I'm glad to see that you're beginning to do your homework.

[mikey79]

Great thanks! At this stage all I am looking for is honesty.

[mikey79]

My biggest fear with Propecia is the sexual side effects. Should I be worried? Will I have problems getting an erection?

[TeeJay73]

Just do the math on this dude.

The route you are going now, with deep cleansing and heating lamps, is $2500 per 4 months, with NO RESULTS. That's projected to cost $7500 in a year, still with no results. That's an insane amount of money for no results.

Propecia is about $800 per year, with 86% chance of positive results (and 60%+ chance of regrowth), and only a 2% or less chance of sexual side effects. The math makes sense to me! If you are one of the few rare individuals that experiences sexual side effects, then stop taking the drug, and you'll get right back to your sexual normal self. The side effects are all reversible.

TeeJay

[J_B_Davis]

Just do the math on this dude.

The route you are going now, with deep cleansing and heating lamps, is $2500 per 4 months, with NO RESULTS. That's projected to cost $7500 in a year, still with no results. That's an insane amount of money for no results.

Propecia is about $800 per year, with 86% chance of positive results (and 60%+ chance of regrowth), and only a 2% or less chance of sexual side effects. The math makes sense to me! If you are one of the few rare individuals that experiences sexual side effects, then stop taking the drug, and you'll get right back to your sexual normal self. The side effects are all reversible.

TeeJay

Propecia is pretty cheap when you look at it that way.

[mikey79]

Hey everyone, i will be starting Propecia this week. i understand the sexual side affect which may occur , nowis there anything I can do on a regular day basis to try and maintain a higher level of testosterone?

[SpencerKobren]

Hey everyone, i will be starting Propecia this week. i understand the sexual side affect which may occur , nowis there anything I can do on a regular day basis to try and maintain a higher level of testosterone?

Hey Mikey79,

The incidence of adverse sexual side effects is extremely low, less than 2% during clinical trials. Men taking certain heart burn medication such as Tagament have a significantly higher chance of sexual sides effects, and chances are you've taken this type of medication without thinking twice about your performance in the bedroom.

FYI taking Propecia will actually raise your free flowing testosterone by up to 15% according to clinical trials, so you don't have to worry about your testosterone levels. Propecia simply blocks the enzyme that converts testosterone into the prostate enlarging and hair follicle shrinking hormone DHT.

Just relax, it is very unlikely that you will suffer with any adverse side affects and remember, good sex is more dependent on what’s between the ears than what’s between the legs so STOP THINKING ABOUT IT!

[TeeJay73]

Good for you! Propecia is the way to go!

Hey I am very curious - did you talk to your doctor and/or clinic about the deep cleansing and heat lamp treatment? Did they give you any feedback? Spencer talked about this on his radio show last week, explaining that deep cleansing infers that hair loss sufferers have "dirty" scalps. This is a very old-school and outdated perception, that just isn't true. So, I was curious to know if your doctor and/or clinic gave you any feedback? Are you still seeing them?

[mikey79]

Hey Miley79,

The incidence of adverse sexual side effects is extremely low, less than 2% during clinical trials. Men taking certain heart burn medication such as Tagament have a significantly higher chance of sexual sides effects, and chances are you've taken this type of medication without thinking twice about your performance in the bedroom.

FYI taking Propecia will actually raise your free flowing testosterone by up to 15% according to clinical trials, so you don't have to worry about your testosterone levels. Propecia simply blocks the enzyme that converts testosterone into the prostate enlarging and hair follicle shrinking hormone DHT.

Just relax, it is very unlikely that you will suffer with any adverse side affects and remember, good sex is more dependent on what’s between the ears than what’s between the legs so STOP THINKING ABOUT IT!

Your absolutely right! THANKS SPENCE!

[mikey79]

Good for you! Propecia is the way to go!

Hey I am very curious - did you talk to your doctor and/or clinic about the deep cleansing and heat lamp treatment? Did they give you any feedback? Spencer talked about this on his radio show last week, explaining that deep cleansing infers that hair loss sufferers have "dirty" scalps. This is a very old-school and outdated perception, that just isn't true. So, I was curious to know if your doctor and/or clinic gave you any feedback? Are you still seeing them?

Yes i did meet with them and she continued to feed me the same BS. However I did get some money back and will start with some Minoxdil.

PS..where can I hear Spencers show online?