Going bald, and going back...

[hdude46]

2020...i really would love to see you pick out a transplant like u say u can, that is utter bs if it is done by the right clinic. go to the shapiro medical website or hasson and wong website and come back and make that statement and i will laugh in your face. im guessing u got your ht done by a chain, it looked ok for awhile, your doc never told u about proscar, and u continued to loose hair.

ht's have changed the lives of many people here. i really doubt they are as bad as u say they are when i have seen so many videos and pics in all lighting conditions that show otherwise.

[KeepTheHair]

I agree, some look very natural. He is just seeing things.

Some real hair also looks weird sometimes at the front etc. I know my hair doesn't look great. I don't have red hair but my hair behaves in the exact same way as that transplant posted in this thread.

Transplants by the right doctors on a head that still has decent hair cannot be spotted.

[Locke]

Guys, save your energy for researching possible solutions to our problems.

Agreed.

Also 2020, you said post-transplant you were always thinking about people looking at your hair to see if it's a HT and you hated it when it was windy.

I've had these exact same problems with hair loss when my hair is long because I'm always thinking if I place it a certain way to cover my hair loss, has my hair moved since then? Are people looking at it? Do I need to go to the washroom and fix it?

Did you have the same thoughts pre-HT as well as post-HT such that the HT really did nothing for you? That's an interesting perspective.

[Mick]

Maybe there is some cultural difference between the UK and US where in the UK bald people are ridiculed. I'd say it's pretty minimal around here, I can't recall making fun of someone, or someone making fun of me in any significant way. Could it be that the British are more inclined to snide remarks?

I don't think so, I'm from the U.K. I highly doubt there is any major difference or any difference at all! There are good people everywhere, there are also assholes everywhere.

[Mick]

Hindsight, great posts! You seem to have become a better person through this whole process which is a great thing to hear, and I'm glad you are saying **** it and letting the hair thing go! (if you can just accept hair loss it is the best thing to do, I can't!) good luck dude and again thanks for sharing!!!

[Vanzzzz]

Yea 2020, I am currently 24 YO in the early stages of balding, NW2, and am desperate to maintain what I have for 5 years at least.

Although I think I will have the same mental agony as you, as the norm for all young men losing hair, I think you are a role model for me. Thank you for the positive post!!!

[jooder]

Fixed by 35 - Im afraid we are going to disagree!
You say the Uk is a place where bald people are discriminated against, bullied and can never be successfull????
Successfull Bald Uk businessmen - Sir Phillip Green, Theo paphitis (off the top of my head)
Bald men are always seen with older women in nightclubs?? This is just bizarre..... i have always had younger or same age girlfriends and have been bald for years.
People may tease at first(this is human nature)...just as people say hes fat, hes ginger etc etc.
You say that british politicians who are bald are never ultimately successfull? Isnt becoming the leader of their own political party successfull.....or is this classed as middle management to you? They achieved this while having the highly undesirable 'horseshoe' look too!

[gmonasco]

The bald truth about CEOs

CEOs say being bald doesn't impede success and, given a choice, it's better to be bald than short. So widely held is this conventional wisdom among top executives that when asked to choose, most CEOs say they'd take 2 more inches of height over a full head of Robert Redford hair.

As smart as they are, CEOs have been known as a group to get it wrong. It now appears that was the case just months ago when they almost universally said they didn't see a recession looming. Could they also be collectively clueless about hair vs. height?

http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2008-03-13-bald-ceos_N.htm

[mark-1]

Balding is a naturally occurring process but at 22? COME ON this is bullshit. If I was 30 I could accept it but like other people are saying in this thread, it's much, much harder to cope with when you're young and everyone else has a nice full head of hair and doesn't have to worry about this every single day.

When I was early 20's I used to believe this too. Now I'm 32 I am finding that I still feel just as bad about it as I did then. This is a horrible disease for sure.

Why do we bald anyway? What is the natural point of it?

[canigetawitness]

awesome story

OP that was awesome how you broke down your story. great read. when I hear stories like yours; I get hesitant about an HT. anyway, posting pics soon.

[[mcr]]

Why do we bald anyway? What is the natural point of it?

I will answer your question based on what I was able to gather about current evolutionary theory. These are not facts, just the best I could find as to why men go bald. And I'm not saying I looked hard. I am not a scientist.

Any genetic trait that spreads does so because it provides an advantage. Thus, women are attracted to men who are tall for example. Being tall provided many advantages, such as an edge in combat, bigger physical presence for protection, etc. Therefore, people across the globe generally get taller, unless there is disease or malnutrition, etc.

Women today are still attracted to taller guys, even though it provides little to no advantage in today's society. No one's getting attacked by mountain lions but the attraction mechanism is running firmware dating back 100,000 years.

Now the theory about hair loss is that it made a man look older, therefore past his prime, past the stage of competing with other males, and more likely to be respected an as older member of the tribe.

Remember, this is at a time when people didn't have facebook to remind them about your age and birthday. It is also a time when older members had a lot of power, and a lot of say in who lives and who dies and how resources are distributed.

Losing your hair makes you look older and ironically makes you more attractive, meaning you have survived disease in your childhood, survived the stage of being a young warrior without getting killed, meaning you are strong, and are now an esteemed member of the tribe who likely has the resources to have offspring and feed and protect them. The women aren't really attracted to you, they are attracted to your status.

And so in one fell swoop evolution gave you a huge advantage. Look at it like winning the lottery.

And so the first few balding guys found themselves blessed with this major advantage, while still in a stage of high sexual activity, and started hooking up with all the babes.

Fast forward to today, you and I are here tearing our atrophying hair out. Looking "old" no longer says "chief of the tribe" or "upper management material" like it did back in the day, it just means you're old.

The good news is that the trait survives because it's not a dealbreaker. Women still weigh other attributes about a man's mating worth. Other reasons might be because people were getting married and having kids at a younger age a few years back, probably before hair loss started or got to an advanced stage at least for some.

Sorry about the long post, but this sums up the theories I was able to gather while reading about this subject. It does not by any means contain any scientific facts. The above could turn out to be entirely false. That's how theories work.

Edit: Just make things clear I need to add this part.

If women were attracted to tall men and still are today, doesn't that mean they should still be attracted to bald guys?

No. Women were attracted to tall guys because they wanted their genes, meaning they want their kids to be tall and strong also.

In the case of bald guys, they were attracted to their status. Women are STILL attracted to status; it's just that looking old is no longer associated with it. For instance, being famous today gives you a high status. Therefore, Danny DeVito can bag more chicks than an average guy who is simply tall because even though Danny is short and bald, he is very famous (in a positive way). High status = survival, and it beats any other attribute any day of the week.

[Fixed by 35]

Here's a few questions to mull over:

1) A lot of people on this site say that hair loss does not affect a man's success with women. I know women who won't go out with men because they don't have enough hair. How many women do you know who won't go out with men because they have a full head of hair?

2) A lot of people say appearances don't matter and that it's shallow to worry about hair. So why do they all desperately follow the fashion of shaving their heads? It doesn't matter so why bother.... right?

3) They also say that baldness doesn't affect career prospects. But we know people don't elect bald Prime Ministers or Presidents. So why do they suddenly become more altruistic when they recruit?

[seatown]

Here's a few questions to mull over:

1) A lot of people on this site say that hair loss does not affect a man's success with women. I know women who won't go out with men because they don't have enough hair. How many women do you know who won't go out with men because they have a full head of hair?

2) A lot of people say appearances don't matter and that it's shallow to worry about hair. So why do they all desperately follow the fashion of shaving their heads? It doesn't matter so why bother.... right?

3) They also say that baldness doesn't affect career prospects. But we know people don't elect bald Prime Ministers or Presidents. So why do they suddenly become more altruistic when they recruit?

you're such an idiot that I don't even want to reply to your stupid comments

[KeepTheHair]

You clearly get very bitter when you see the general consensus here about shaving your head = ugly and you just happen to shave your head.


Your only denying a reality.

[Fixed by 35]

you're such an idiot that I don't even want to reply to your stupid comments

Because you can't. Can you?