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  • DAVE52
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 775

    #16
    Originally posted by Alex23
    When it's wet it and comb it backwards i can see my scalp at the vertex and all throughout the hair line.
    So can most people when their hair is wet

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    • HTsoon
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 153

      #17
      Dude you're 19 if you're noticing hairloss now by the time you get to be 30 it'll be bad, you have a choice stop taking gear and keep your hair or continue taking gear and lose your hair. I've been lifting for 8 years myself, I know you want to pursuit your dream but there's no free ride. You could switch to bodybuilding instead of physique, hair and looks aren't as important in bodybuilding.

      But if you want to maintain your hair and youthful look you should quit the gear, especially Anadrol, winstrol and tren. Finasteride does little to nothing, you can test out dutasteride as it has been shown to reduce up to 93% of DHT, but those are within normal ranges not super physiological ranges.

      My opinion id rather have my hair then a 6% shredded physique. Take it from a guy who's gone bald and came back, hair is WAY more important. Unless you plan to make this your career, just know without hair you'll never be a Greg plitt type fitness model, you'd have to be a bodybuilder like branch warren.

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      • Not giving up
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 166

        #18
        Haha I didn't realise how many Brahs there were in these forums who know their stuff.

        For me personally, the hairloss didn't stop even when I stopped the gear. I don't think it really even slowed. That's why I've jumped on propecia.

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        • Falcon
          Member
          • Dec 2015
          • 58

          #19
          I will give my last advice:

          I am presuming that you are not on gear all year round and you know how to PCT.

          It would be harsh on the hair if you are on gear all the time.

          My advice would be to only be on gear once or max twice a year.
          12 weeks cycle followed by PCT, the rest of the time you are off the gear.

          You might have to train harder and eat cleaner to keep a tight physique.

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          • Alex23
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 101

            #20
            Thanks for the feedback brahs, well f*ck i guess I'll stick with Propecia and training natural, may use test on a cut to save muscle mass one more time than maintain. Can I regrow somehow hair thickness? I'm 1 week on Propecia and no sides only balls hurt from time to time, also even before propecia and when off gear i have 0 hair loss my dad is 57 with diffuse thinning like myself and we have the same hair style, texture. His hairline is also intact but under harsh light you can see his scalp. Guess tren speeds shit up faster than the speed of light even though i used it once lol

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            • HTsoon
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 153

              #21
              Originally posted by Alex23
              Thanks for the feedback brahs, well f*ck i guess I'll stick with Propecia and training natural, may use test on a cut to save muscle mass one more time than maintain. Can I regrow somehow hair thickness? I'm 1 week on Propecia and no sides only balls hurt from time to time, also even before propecia and when off gear i have 0 hair loss my dad is 57 with diffuse thinning like myself and we have the same hair style, texture. His hairline is also intact but under harsh light you can see his scalp. Guess tren speeds shit up faster than the speed of light even though i used it once lol
              Tren and winstrol literally eat hair like fat people eat cakes at a buffet.

              That's good man you're making the right choice, you wanna keep your facial aesthetics most of all, hair is a direct contributor to facial aesthetics.

              It's not like you can't have a good physique natural, just won't look as full when your lean, 9/10 people see abs and think you're shredded so it doesn't really matter.

              As for making your hair thicker, start taking minoxidil, I've noticed my hair got thicker once I started taking lipogaine.

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              • Alex23
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2016
                • 101

                #22
                Originally posted by HTsoon
                Tren and winstrol literally eat hair like fat people eat cakes at a buffet.

                That's good man you're making the right choice, you wanna keep your facial aesthetics most of all, hair is a direct contributor to facial aesthetics.

                It's not like you can't have a good physique natural, just won't look as full when your lean, 9/10 people see abs and think you're shredded so it doesn't really matter.

                As for making your hair thicker, start taking minoxidil, I've noticed my hair got thicker once I started taking lipogaine.
                Minoxidil gave me a bloated face, and super streachy skin like rubber wtf..

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                • HTsoon
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 153

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Alex23
                  Minoxidil gave me a bloated face, and super streachy skin like rubber wtf..
                  Was it the cheap crap from Kirkland? I used to get super crusty head with unbearable itching, I switched to lipogaine and it went away. I also take hydrolized collagen peptides protein. It helps with any skin issues that may happen. If you can't take minoxidil though, you'll have to resort to something like nioxin or toppik thickening conditioner.

                  I recommend giving a high quality minoxidil another shot, take 0.5ml in the morning and at night instead of 1ml this might help.

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                  • Alex23
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 101

                    #24
                    Originally posted by HTsoon
                    Was it the cheap crap from Kirkland? I used to get super crusty head with unbearable itching, I switched to lipogaine and it went away. I also take hydrolized collagen peptides protein. It helps with any skin issues that may happen. If you can't take minoxidil though, you'll have to resort to something like nioxin or toppik thickening conditioner.

                    I recommend giving a high quality minoxidil another shot, take 0.5ml in the morning and at night instead of 1ml this might help.
                    I bought a thing called Pilfud "Minoxidil" 5% from the pharmacy. Gave me dark circles under eyes as well. Another thing does Propecia regrow hair? All my loss was basically in 6 months. Before that i was a super thick nw0. The thing with diffuse thinning is i can't even convince anyone I've lost hair they say I'm mad even my barber.. There's a dude at my gym with the same problem but he is way worse from distance he has a perfect hair but up close it looks like a disease, transparent skull everywhere :@

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                    • HTsoon
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 153

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Alex23
                      I bought a thing called Pilfud "Minoxidil" 5% from the pharmacy. Gave me dark circles under eyes as well. Another thing does Propecia regrow hair? All my loss was basically in 6 months. Before that i was a super thick nw0. The thing with diffuse thinning is i can't even convince anyone I've lost hair they say I'm mad even my barber.. There's a dude at my gym with the same problem but he is way worse from distance he has a perfect hair but up close it looks like a disease, transparent skull everywhere :@
                      Propecia stops hairloss but it rarely gives regrowth, not saying it doesn't but for the most part it stops your hair from getting worse, minoxidil generally helps with regrowth.

                      I know what you mean I'm also a diffuse thinner, I noticed it at 22 and it gets worse if left untreated, so you'll want to add some other things besides fin like nizoral 2% maybe even dutasteride 2x per week.

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                      • Alex23
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 101

                        #26
                        Originally posted by HTsoon
                        Propecia stops hairloss but it rarely gives regrowth, not saying it doesn't but for the most part it stops your hair from getting worse, minoxidil generally helps with regrowth.

                        I know what you mean I'm also a diffuse thinner, I noticed it at 22 and it gets worse if left untreated, so you'll want to add some other things besides fin like nizoral 2% maybe even dutasteride 2x per week.
                        I use Nizoral 2% and i know this sounds stupid but i crush 200mg spironolactone and a few dutasteride pills in the shampoo and use it eod, massaging and my scalp and leaving it on top for 10 minutes before washing.

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                        • Alex23
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 101

                          #27
                          Originally posted by michel sapin
                          hey brah , don't worry about propecia , i'm a 22 yo french surfer and ive been taking it for 18 months without any sides . Moreover ive done some impressive muscle gains since taking it .
                          However it doesnt stop my hairloss , but you might be luckier than me . so give it a try .

                          but stop the test cycle , it will ruin your hairline and you wil regret it forever.
                          hair is much more important than muscle
                          how come a 70% decrease in dht doesn't stop your hair loss Jesus...

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                          • HTsoon
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 153

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Alex23
                            I use Nizoral 2% and i know this sounds stupid but i crush 200mg spironolactone and a few dutasteride pills in the shampoo and use it eod, massaging and my scalp and leaving it on top for 10 minutes before washing.
                            You're wasting the dutasteride pills brah, in order for it to be absorbed there has to be chemical vehicle which is not present in shampoo, you should take the dutasteride orally, if you're worried about side effects do 0.5 mg 1x per week, then bump it up 2x per week, that's enough so long as you're also taking fin. If you want spiro topically buy S5 cream. There hasn't been topical dutasteride made, there is topical fin mixed with minoxidil its made by
                            Morr-F.

                            I've also heard that laser combs increase the thickness of the hair, I haven't tried it so I can't give my personal opinion but it may be worth a try, there's no negative side effects so if it doesn't work no harm no foul.

                            70% is enough to stop minor hairloss, but diffuse thinning at 19 is a sign you're headed for complete baldness by 30. Which means your hairloss is aggressive you're sensitive to DHT, everyone's sensitivity is different, that's why some guys run gear and get acne and others don't, but some guys go bald, it all depends on your genetic sensitivity to DHT. That's why I'm saying try to include dutasteride with fin.

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                            • Alex23
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 101

                              #29
                              Originally posted by HTsoon
                              You're wasting the dutasteride pills brah, in order for it to be absorbed there has to be chemical vehicle which is not present in shampoo, you should take the dutasteride orally, if you're worried about side effects do 0.5 mg 1x per week, then bump it up 2x per week, that's enough so long as you're also taking fin. If you want spiro topically buy S5 cream. There hasn't been topical dutasteride made, there is topical fin mixed with minoxidil its made by
                              Morr-F.

                              I've also heard that laser combs increase the thickness of the hair, I haven't tried it so I can't give my personal opinion but it may be worth a try, there's no negative side effects so if it doesn't work no harm no foul.

                              70% is enough to stop minor hairloss, but diffuse thinning at 19 is a sign you're headed for complete baldness by 30. Which means your hairloss is aggressive you're sensitive to DHT, everyone's sensitivity is different, that's why some guys run gear and get acne and others don't, but some guys go bald, it all depends on your genetic sensitivity to DHT. That's why I'm saying try to include dutasteride with fin.
                              I just may do that. Anyway my hair loss isn't so aggressive since i basically had 0 hair loss from 500mg test but tren + winstrol ****ed me up. After cycle my hair loss stopped completely but since my eyes have been opened I'm not gonna risk this shit so started Propecia immediately in hopes of some regrowth. If i don't get sides in a few months I'm adding dut as well. I can easily maintain a 200lbs 8-10%bf physique natty so time to get sum hair back. Imo, also what alternative is there to minoxidil? Thx alot

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                              • HTsoon
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 153

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Alex23
                                I just may do that. Anyway my hair loss isn't so aggressive since i basically had 0 hair loss from 500mg test but tren + winstrol ****ed me up. After cycle my hair loss stopped completely but since my eyes have been opened I'm not gonna risk this shit so started Propecia immediately in hopes of some regrowth. If i don't get sides in a few months I'm adding dut as well. I can easily maintain a 200lbs 8-10%bf physique natty so time to get sum hair back. Imo, also what alternative is there to minoxidil? Thx alot
                                Wow you took the worst compounds for hair. Winstrol is the worst, good for lean dry gains but adios to your hair. There's not any substitutions to be honest, there's revivogen and crinagen but I don't think they work as well. They're worth a try though if you can't minoxidil.

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