What the hell!?

[Jedgreen]

Oh and sorry if my english is not always perfect. And I'm not an expert in surgeons or dermato either, just trying to give my opinion like I'd do to a friend. There are people more qualified than me around here to give good advices. (but maybe also people who think they are qualified.)

[jamesst11]

Hey man,
Don't feel stupid posting here at all! It's a hair loss forum and if you believe you have hair loss it's your right. I know it sucks. To have something happening to you that is beyond your control... When I looked at pics of my hair wet and combed back a couple days ago I literally almost cried. hang in there man.

[Jedgreen]

What could a dermatologist see that the others have not? Surgeon nr2 checked my scalp with an micro camera, do dermatologist do something different?

A dermato is a doctor specialized in skin, hair and mucous membranes and to me, (someone will correct me if i'm wrong) a transplant surgeon is someone who maybe don't have all the scientific background required to give a real diagnostic of the state of the scalp, and is someone who, at the end of the day, wants to sell you hair transplant... I guess you've seen good transplant surgeons that did not scare you to make you want to do an operation, so that's cool. But to have a real, not biased diagnostic, a dermato would be good. But really you're pictures are all right. Just eat healthy, don't smoke, take care of your hair with sulfate-free shampoos and take the same pictures in 6 months if you feel something is wrong.

[WillyFooFoo]

New pics looks even better than the others. No visible problem to me. But you took the pics with a flash light. Not the best way to do it as it makes some hair shine more than others and it makes hard shadows that can be taken for hair.
On the first pictures on this thread I could "maybe" see a small thinning. But nothing wrong for a 30 yo dude.
Seriously, if you've gone to several specialists and none of them told you there was a problem, then you don't have to worry for now. BUT let's keep an eye on it and if during the next year you really feel something is wrong, go see a dermatologist. In fact you did not mention if you already saw a dermato?
Transplant surgeons and hair dressers can give you an opinion, but I would go see a dermato now. To be sure.

No, I have not been to an dermatologist. We have a different system in sweden were you have to get an referral from my regular doctor but they don't see mpb as enough of an issue to see me.

What could a dermatologist see that the others have not? Surgeon nr2 checked my scalp with an micro camera, do dermatologist do something different?

[WillyFooFoo]

I mean this in the nicest way possible - I think you may need a therapist brother. No shame in that, I see one myself. What you are seeing is your hair parted. 10% miniaturization is not indicative of MPB.

Thank you for your answer james.

Non taken!
I know that my first action should be seeking therapy, and I have my first appointment in august.

I feel kind of stupid posting on this forum when there are people with more problem than me and I apoligize if i ever offend someone, I really don't want to do that.

I'ts just that until my appointment I need to vent my thoughts.

I am ever so greatful for everyone who takes their spare time to comment on my situation.

[Becken]

Hair Looks fine... Looks just like Parting of the hair... natural to se scalp then... in the parting or crown swirl that is... If hair looks thin outside the swirl or when the hairs lay in the same direction then you could worry...

[WillyFooFoo]

Thank you Artista. You are a good person.

I know stress isnt good, i try not to stress about it.

My concern is that after all my appointments with hair surgeons and other people who tells me that i have good hair in the vertex and still snaps pics like these makes me confused.

I really don't know if i have Male Pappern Baldness because my hairline is "matured" just like my fathers and a uncle (almost exactly like my father, he has some more recession but hes 63 y/o). I was estimated as a NW 2 by Dr.Bisanga in Bryssels, he did not recommend me to on propecia.

I've always had "fine" straight thinner hair.

Again, thank you Artista. Feels good to have this conversation with you.

All the best!

[jamesst11]

I mean this in the nicest way possible - I think you may need a therapist brother. No shame in that, I see one myself. What you are seeing is your hair parted. 10% miniaturization is not indicative of MPB.

[Artista]

Will' hello again!
I have little time to respond (must run off to my regular job, unfortunately)

I feel that you get so 'scared' when looking at your hair because it is mostly due to your over-emotions.
Maybe you should step back and try looking at it in a completely commonsense sort of way.

Those pics of your hair looks GOOD ,,I dont see a real issue with your hair bro--truthfully speaking!
Calm down, STRESS could and will cause hair loss. History shows that as a fact. I experienced it!!
So if you continue to extremely and EMOTIONALLY focus on your hair , then STRESS will cause a problem for you.
Again,your hair is NOT BAD .... please consider this OK? your friend Artista!!!
Tomorrow morning I will continue our discussion ..I promise

[Jedgreen]

New pics looks even better than the others. No visible problem to me. But you took the pics with a flash light. Not the best way to do it as it makes some hair shine more than others and it makes hard shadows that can be taken for hair.
On the first pictures on this thread I could "maybe" see a small thinning. But nothing wrong for a 30 yo dude.
Seriously, if you've gone to several specialists and none of them told you there was a problem, then you don't have to worry for now. BUT let's keep an eye on it and if during the next year you really feel something is wrong, go see a dermatologist. In fact you did not mention if you already saw a dermato?
Transplant surgeons and hair dressers can give you an opinion, but I would go see a dermato now. To be sure.

[WillyFooFoo]

Snapped this pics after showering (hair dry, no products) in quite bright light.

http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/85321/vertex

http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/85322/vertex-2

What do you guys think? Need some comments, please

[WillyFooFoo]

Thank you for replying Artista, that means alot to me.

Do you think theres some thinning in the vertex or is it like "lacazette" wrote about that some have wierd implantations? I mean, two doctors and two hair dressers (one of them male and totally bald) said that i didn't had to worry about my crown.

But like i said, when i look at these pictures i get so scared!

[Artista]

Thank you Willy' .I felt that you were so much younger than 30.
The good thing is that you STILL ARE a young man!
Those photos you had provided does show a very DECENT looking head of hair bro!!
Being honest with you

[WillyFooFoo]

I'm 30 years old.

[Artista]

How old are you WillyFooFoo ?
How YOUNG are you?