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  • Mribby1
    Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 78

    Theory why fin doesn't work on your temples

    People say that fin is not effective on the temples. I have a theory why it probably isn't that effective on the temples. Majority of guys start of with a receding hairline and they wait and wait to do something about it. Some guys wait till they're a nw3 plus. Am I jumping the gun by thinking that by the time most of these guys jump on fin the follicles around the temples are a long way past revival hence no regrowth and the ones on the scalp haven't been dormant as long. Of course this does only apply to the guys who recede then develop the horse shoe pattern. Recently the subject of hair loss is actually fascinating me.
  • Dan26
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 1270

    #2
    Ya this is the most likely reason.

    MPB often strikes the temples first, and by the time people notice and hop on fin some damage has been done.

    Theres theories like more 5ar in frontal scalp, more androgen receptors, affected by testosterone etc, but I think its all about catching it early

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    • Notcoolanymore
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 2246

      #3
      You might have something with your theory. Many people hold off treatment early on in the hair loss process. Usually finally getting on fin when their hair line has taken a beating and is beyond recovery. I did the same.

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      • Mribby1
        Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 78

        #4
        Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
        You might have something with your theory. Many people hold off treatment early on in the hair loss process. Usually finally getting on fin when their hair line has taken a beating and is beyond recovery. I did the same.
        I'm no doctor but I do think that probably more often than not the by the time guys jump on fin the follicles have already gone. It could take 5 years for a guy to get to a nw3. I'm not sure if anyone has floated the idea before. I think that's why a lot of the young guys like me are stumped when we get temple regrowth. Let's say if I'm right which I'm probably not I do imagine there have been guys who didn't take fin because they have read online that the medication doesn't work as well on the front... I do wish I had decided to study medicine and not Law

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        • Notcoolanymore
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 2246

          #5
          Originally posted by Mribby1
          I do imagine there have been guys who didn't take fin because they have read online that the medication doesn't work as well on the front.
          I didn't start treatment for a variety of reasons. The above was one of them for me. I always thought treatments were only effective on the crown.

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          • Mribby1
            Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 78

            #6
            Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
            I didn't start treatment for a variety of reasons. The above was one of them for me. I always thought treatments were only effective on the crown.
            I did the same ****ing thing I thought "what so the fda approved stuff doesn't work on the front. That's where my hair loss is." The industry is full of misinformation and you have guys who are 19 not taking the fda approved drugs and then falling into the traps of bullshit commercials and still end up bald as ever. Obviously there's a lot more there is to learn but god it's frustrating it's ironic that we both withheld from treatment because of the same reason I think it's a more common phenomenon then we think.

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            • Mribby1
              Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 78

              #7
              Originally posted by Dan26
              Ya this is the most likely reason.

              MPB often strikes the temples first, and by the time people notice and hop on fin some damage has been done.

              Theres theories like more 5ar in frontal scalp, more androgen receptors, affected by testosterone etc, but I think its all about catching it early
              Preach this like gospel good sir too many people wait and wait and wait and all of a sudden they're LeBron james

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              • ccmethinning
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 317

                #8
                I also think a long the same lines.

                I have been on fin 8.5 months and my hairline and temples are definitely slightly worse than when I started. I'm starting to think the hair I have lost in the last 8.5 months was already damaged and couldn't be saved by fin and would have been lost anyway. If I continue to lose for another 6 months or so I will become more worried though.

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                • Mribby1
                  Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 78

                  #9
                  I think you're too early to make a judgement give it a year. I think you maybe shedding, in my opinion if the hair is still there its saveable but once Dorothy leaves kansas and if she's been gone a while it's unlikely you'll see regrowth. Hang in there sir!

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                  • Dan26
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1270

                    #10
                    If us unlucky souls with the MPB gene were REAL smart and ahead of the game...We would go once a year to a trichologist and as soon as there were signs of miniaturization going on, even ones not visible to the eye, it's fin time!!!!!!!

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                    • ryan555
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 428

                      #11
                      I don't think it has anything to do with timing. The hair at the front of the hair line is highly sensitive to DHT. That's why many men who don't ever become bald still recede in their hair line to some degree.

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                      • Mribby1
                        Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 78

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ryan555
                        I don't think it has anything to do with timing. The hair at the front of the hair line is highly sensitive to DHT. That's why many men who don't ever become bald still recede in their hair line to some degree.
                        I did agree to that but no one seems to know why the hair at the sides is completely dht resistant. Of course time plays a role it's why if you're a nw6 for 10 years and decide to use fin you probably won't have any success. Idon't think we understand hair loss at all. So many blind alleys. It's all just really interesting. When you say some men recede they still are balding. Some men just go bald slower than others. Some men develop wrinkles slower just genetics I think. In my opinion it's gotta be more than just dht. I caught my hair loss early and my temples have been filling in and I'm just putting out the theory. I wonder if most men started fin when there hairline started receding would we consider fin to be as effective on the front as it is on the back. You probably are right but there are people who seem to do ridiculously well on fin.

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                        • ryan555
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 428

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mribby1
                          I did agree to that but no one seems to know why the hair at the sides is completely dht resistant. Of course time plays a role it's why if you're a nw6 for 10 years and decide to use fin you probably won't have any success. Idon't think we understand hair loss at all. So many blind alleys. It's all just really interesting. When you say some men recede they still are balding. Some men just go bald slower than others. Some men develop wrinkles slower just genetics I think. In my opinion it's gotta be more than just dht. I caught my hair loss early and my temples have been filling in and I'm just putting out the theory. I wonder if most men started fin when there hairline started receding would we consider fin to be as effective on the front as it is on the back. You probably are right but there are people who seem to do ridiculously well on fin.
                          Some men recede slightly in their hairline and never go bald. There is a difference between progressive baldness and hairline changes that occur in adulthood. Look at Mitt Romney, as an example. He's certainly not balding but his hairline has retreated since his youth.

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                          • Dan26
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1270

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ryan555
                            I don't think it has anything to do with timing. The hair at the front of the hair line is highly sensitive to DHT. That's why many men who don't ever become bald still recede in their hair line to some degree.
                            Are there any studies that prove that??

                            I mean someone with NO mpb gene whatsoever still isn't going to retain a juvenile hairline and density for life, and that isn't necessarily due to damage done by DHT, but rather hair loss related to other reasons associated with old age.

                            Also those bald guys whose crown gets obliterated yet they have that patch at the front.

                            Not sure if they've done tests are sclap biopsies that show increased ARs, increases 5artype2 etc but I've never seen them.

                            You catch it before the damage starts and you have the same chance of saving your front hair as the rest...but you wait till you start receding in the temples and the chance goes down IMO

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                            • Mribby1
                              Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 78

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ryan555
                              Some men recede slightly in their hairline and never go bald. There is a difference between progressive baldness and hairline changes that occur in adulthood. Look at Mitt Romney, as an example. He's certainly not balding but his hairline has retreated since his youth.
                              I understand that but the concept of a mature hairline is still baldness to me. There are plenty of men who retain their juvenile hairline up into their 50s like my mum's brother. On the subject of Mitt Romney who knows what kind of treatments he's been using. He's a man with a lot of money he could also be on some form of treatment to maintain his head of hair.

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