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  • lrocksmashtime
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 11

    My story

    Hey guys, not sure how to start this off, so I'll just start typing and see what comes out. I started losing my hair in senior year of high school. I've also always been overly critical of myself and never had much of a self esteem. I attribute much of that to my years growing up in various places and never having a chance to build a good network. Nevertheless I managed to make some great friends in high school, people I can still count on today.

    College was when my hair loss really started to affect me. Back then I didn't have to put in much effort to fall into some kind of fling with a girl. I usually just waited for one to come to me, instead of going after them (likely because I still had self-esteem issues). I spent many nights wondering why this was happening to me, some nights I'd find a secluded part of the college campus and cry like a little baby. I became so depressed that I had to drop out of all my classes except one. It wasn't long after that I started buzzing my head.

    The details between then and now aren't that important, I managed to have a couple of girlfriends that could have been considered attractive. I even got to sleep with one of the most beautiful girls I had ever known. That was more than two years ago. I am 31 and am going on a year and a half of no sex life.

    I live in the Lower East Side in NYC. I'm constantly surrounded by the most beautiful girls and all I keep thinking is "what's the point. You'll never get a girl like that again." I've gone on at least 20 dates in the past 6 months with girls I've met online. Most of the girls who agree to meet me are so below my standards that I could never bring myself to do anything with them. The ones who just about meet my smallest criteria are constantly canceling dates and just generally never seem to put in the same effort that I do. Trying to meet girls at bars/clubs is an exercise in futility. When I finally get up the courage to talk to them they shun me like I'm a leper.

    Most of the guys around me have enough hair that it passes for normal. My brother who is 29 is a chick magnet and has almost a full head of hair. Girls do not care about what I've accomplished. I'm the CTO of a very cool tech startup, I have a full length album on itunes, I have 15 years of guitar playing under my belt, and generally I'm a unique, intelligent, funny guy from a great family. I would not be living in NYC if it weren't for my job.

    I've been on Propecia and Minoxidil for over a decade, no side effects, hopefully none that will appear later. I shave my head to the skin almost every day. I am not a tall guy just about 5'8 with shoes. I once scheduled an FUE appt but cancelled it last minute because I didn't want to have a bunch of dots on the back of my head should I decide to shave again. It was an appt with Ziering, and cost me a down payment of $1000. If I ever do go through with a procedure it will not be with them. And for the record I thing I'm a good looking guy with a shaved head, I just don't think i'm good looking enough to compete with the rest of the guys in NYC.

    Anyways, here I am, all I want is to meet someone that I am attracted to and to spend the rest of my life with. Away from all of this. Are there any other NYCers out there that are having a hard a time as me? I apologize if this is poorly written, I'm tired, and depressed.
  • Notcoolanymore
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 2246

    #2
    It just sounds to me like you are in a bit of a slump. Forgive me if I am wrong, but from what I gather you have very little game. I suck too. So again no offense. Despite having no game you have said that you had sex with a few girls in college and recently had sex with one of the hottest girls you have ever known. Based on that, I am going to assume that you are a pretty good looking guy.

    As far as your experience with internet dating, don't let any of that stuff get to you. Men outnumber women on those site like 10:1. It is nearly impossible to get a date with a hottie you see online, unless you have a douche bag profile(topless pic showing 6-pack). Nice guys usually do not succeed online. They are usually left fighting over scraps(below average women). Guys are at a major disadvantage online and because of this become desperate. Below average woman have a smorgasbord of guys to choose from and because of that become delusional on what they are "entitled" to. I can go on and on about this, but I think you get my point.

    You are a good looking guy, with a good job and other things going for you. I would say just keep up with your appearance as much as you can and keep your standards up. Expand your network, that should increase your dating opportunities.

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    • lrocksmashtime
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 11

      #3
      Thanks for the reply Notcoolanymore. I only have game when it comes to girls I've known for a while and who've known me and when I can tell that they have some what of an interest. When it comes to picking up a total stranger, yes I have 0 game. I'm constantly talking to girls on apps like Tinder, but the amount of obstacles between sifting through profiles and being in a relationship seem insurmountable.

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      • Notcoolanymore
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 2246

        #4
        Originally posted by lrocksmashtime
        I only have game when it comes to girls I've known for a while and who've known me and when I can tell that they have some what of an interest. When it comes to picking up a total stranger, yes I have 0 game.
        Most people are in the same boat, including myself. That's why as a single dude it's important to expand your network. That will increase your dating opportunities. Become friends with everybody including girls you are not attracted to. Even they will have attractive friends. You have many things going for you. It's not like you bring nothing to the table. Don't let a little hair loss keep you from getting the girl you deserve.

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        • Mike K
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 198

          #5
          You say you've been on propecia and minox for over a decade but you also shave your head? What norwood are you with it grown out?

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          • lrocksmashtime
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 11

            #6
            Originally posted by Mike K
            You say you've been on propecia and minox for over a decade but you also shave your head? What norwood are you with it grown out?
            I actually quit for a little bit but then started again because of the FUE appt. I still have visible but incredibly thin hairs over my entire head but for practical purposes I look like an N6. I often ask myself why I bother to continue the medication at this point I'm just clinging to what's left in the case that I do finally go through with a procedure.

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            • Mike K
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 198

              #7
              Have you considered a concealer like toppik? Maybe you could beef up all the thin stuff?

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              • lrocksmashtime
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 11

                #8
                Originally posted by Mike K
                Have you considered a concealer like toppik? Maybe you could beef up all the thin stuff?
                I did look at something like that not too long ago, but I couldn't tell if it was just a scam. Maybe I'll take a look again.

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                • Mike K
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 198

                  #9
                  They're pretty popular. I read somewhere online that Spencer Kobren uses Dermmatch. Toppik, Dermmatch, and Caboki are the popular ones. Concealers outside of these 3 may be scams.

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                  • Notcoolanymore
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 2246

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mike K
                    They're pretty popular. I read somewhere online that Spencer Kobren uses Dermmatch. Toppik, Dermmatch, and Caboki are the popular ones. Concealers outside of these 3 may be scams.
                    My hair would definitely look better if I applied one of these. Maybe I should give it a try.

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                    • goldnt
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 169

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
                      My hair would definitely look better if I applied one of these. Maybe I should give it a try.
                      You should. Ive been using caboki and its great. Im thinning all over the place so i use it all around. Quick tips when you use it.

                      - Cover your shirt with a towel or something to not get it dirty.
                      - Put your shirt on first unless you have a button up.
                      - Gently clean around your neck, surrounding skin and behind your ears.
                      - I think it applies better when your hair is dry(not humid at all).
                      - Tap softly and gently when you finish So they fall more into place.
                      - Dont over do it. As it can get very messy.
                      - If it gets itchy don't scratch with your fingers ( find like a pencil or something lol)
                      - hats are a no go.
                      -And lastly dont over do it.

                      Tips from using caboki for over a year now.

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                      • Notcoolanymore
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 2246

                        #12
                        Does the stuff stay on your head after application? Can it be blown off if I stand in front of a fan, or out on a windy day? Lastly, where do you guys get this stuff?

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                        • goldnt
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 169

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
                          Does the stuff stay on your head after application? Can it be blown off if I stand in front of a fan, or out on a windy day? Lastly, where do you guys get this stuff?
                          Well it depends on how much you put and how much you hair you've got. My thinning is very noticeable and i litterly went jogging for 2 miles and about 80% of it was still there. Wind is definitely not a problem. Trust me. As for a fan as long as its not that fast, your good. Went to play some basketball and id say about half of it was still there. But jogging was good surprisingly(and yes i did sweat). Go to the caboki website and get a free sample. At first it took me awhile to apply and it was'nt great but now i do it quickly in like a min.

                          You see, fibers from all these concealer brands fall on the scalp and hair. The scalp ones will mostly stay till you wash your hair. The ones sticking to the hair however are the ones prone to fall off if you do certain things.

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                          • Notcoolanymore
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 2246

                            #14
                            Hmmm, I will give it a try and see if I can deal with it. It just sucks because when it comes to concealers you are kind of held hostage once you start using them. People will know if you go swimming for example. And I have a swimming pool. With the help of cabooki, it would be a shame to jump in the pool a nw2 and hit the surface as a nw6. I guess as hair loss sufferers we have to do what we have to do to look good.

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                            • 35YrsAfter
                              Doctor Representative
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1418

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lrocksmashtime
                              And for the record I thing I'm a good looking guy with a shaved head, I just don't think i'm good looking enough to compete with the rest of the guys in NYC.

                              Anyways, here I am, all I want is to meet someone that I am attracted to and to spend the rest of my life with. Away from all of this. Are there any other NYCers out there that are having a hard a time as me? I apologize if this is poorly written, I'm tired, and depressed.
                              Women are very different throughout the US. What is the man woman ratio in NYC?

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