Almost 23, just got diagnosed with "classic MBP"

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  • hair204
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 15

    Almost 23, just got diagnosed with "classic MBP"

    Well here it is: http://imgur.com/a/OfvDD

    These pics are about a few weeks old but they (kind of) tell the story), I think.

    Anyway, after a couple of months of debate with my parents and online, I finally saw a dermatologist today about my hair, and he said "you have classic hereditary male pattern baldness".

    I wasn't glad to hear it, but I got the picture beforehand due to my corners/temples being slightly (0.5-1cm) higher on each side while fully combing back wet/shampooed hair.

    -- Prescriptions: Rogaine 5% foam, Propecia 1mg, Nizoral Shampoo (this one wasn't on the official prescription but I mentioned shampoo and he wrote it down on my notepad anyway)

    Hair condition: I honestly don't feel anything visibly wrong with my hair, he said I am very "mild" on the NW scale and we both agreed that the general public won't notice any sign of me being balding or bald. I still have long (2" or more in some spots) black hair all over that can be styled and combed well over my face almost down to the eyes (when wet). However, I need to take action. My father's family has perfect hair genetics (3 brothers all full black hair no thinness in their 40-50s, my dad is 51 with very minor greying but still looks very robust). It is my mother's only brother, who went bald early, who is the one I share the genes with I guess.

    Now that I am just about 23, I need to know for sure, do I get on propecia or are the sides too bad? Some sources say its a 95%/5% split between good/bad experiences, other sources say its 5%/95% lol. I will get generic minoxidil foam online and also the nizoral, but I am still unsure on propecia: generic/prescription, and of course: whether to go on it or not??
  • Alih
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 12

    #2
    Who's the dr u saw????

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    • drybone
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 867

      #3
      Hey dude. You got good hair. Keep it with the stuff the doc gave you. Your body is producing testosterone which is being converted to a hormone called DHT which attaches and shrinks your hair follicles.

      Take the meds and you will enjoy you hair for the rest of your life.

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      • hair204
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 15

        #4
        Originally posted by drybone
        Hey dude. You got good hair. Keep it with the stuff the doc gave you. Your body is producing testosterone which is being converted to a hormone called DHT which attaches and shrinks your hair follicles.

        Take the meds and you will enjoy you hair for the rest of your life.
        Thanks, I think so too, I had some pictures taken of me at an event yesterday and I had a full head of long thick hair (as vertically long as my forehead). I am just "starting" to thin at the crown.

        Who diagnosed me -- a dermatologist at a large dermatology clinic in a large city in Canada.

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        • Dan26
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 1270

          #5
          Originally posted by drybone

          Take the meds and you will enjoy you hair for the rest of your life.
          Or don't take the meds and enjoy your health for the rest of your life.....deteriorating mental health that is!

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          • fred970
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 922

            #6
            Originally posted by drybone
            Take the meds and you will enjoy you hair for the rest of your life.
            Did I miss something? Do we have a cure for hair loss now?

            Joke aside, it's not true, with finasteride you'll keep your hair 5 to 10 more years or until you can't bear the side-effects if you're not lucky, but nothing stops hair loss forever at the moment.

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            • Notcoolanymore
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 2246

              #7
              I will not get into the sides debate this time. Too tired right now. The best/most effective med we have right now is fin. If you take it and are a good responder you can keep(and even grow) your hair for a long time. If you don't....well, just look at your mom's brother. Like all drugs the risks of sides are there. If you get sides, then stop taking the drug, and you should be back to normal. I will add that there are some that claim that their sides continue after discontinuing finasteride use. I have no problem believing that this can happen, but I would say that the odds of this happening are very small.

              I have been taking fin for 4+ months now with no sides.

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              • fred970
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 922

                #8
                A long time I agree, the rest of your life, forget it.

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                • hair204
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 15

                  #9
                  Yes, I will go on the big 3 today, I see every reason to start now. I asked my mother about my brother's age of balding but she either doesn't remember or won't say. He lived in another country and I barely know him, but from what I recall, he was in his early 30s when I knew of him to be balding. My goal is to last as long as possible so I will get the big 3 today.

                  What about dutasteride, should I be combining that with the big 3? Also is 1mg propecia enough or do I need 1.25, my prescription says 1mg.

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                  I took some more pics this morning in detail with relaxed, pulled back, and wet+combed.

                  I see obvious crown thinning, and receded corners when I pull back.

                  In relaxed position I think I most people won't notice, but I definitely can, and anyone who has done research on mpb will probably be able to tell.

                  The dermatologist said this is hereditary pattern baldness, which looks obvious to me. I could only have gotten it from my mother's side.

                  Were it not for my preemptive research on mpb, I wouldn't suspect a thing, I feel that I have been in this "position" hair wise for at least 1 year now (based on old pics).

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                  • 35YrsAfter
                    Doctor Representative
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1418

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hair204
                    Well here it is: http://imgur.com/a/OfvDD
                    Anyway, after a couple of months of debate with my parents and online, I finally saw a dermatologist today about my hair, and he said "you have classic hereditary male pattern baldness".
                    Some doctors can be brutally broadbrush. Nearly all men even with "full" heads of hair show minor signs of thinning or recession at the temples.

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                    • hair204
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 15

                      #11
                      I am going to get my first set of $75 per month real 1mg propecia for now and perhaps get 5mg prescribed at the next visit if possible. I don't want to use generic pills, but I am going to get generic 5% minox and keto.

                      Minox 5%, a 6 month supply for $26:


                      I am assuming the method and application is identical to regular rogaine. What do you guys think about kirkland?

                      Keto 1%, a 8oz bottle for $24:


                      Do I need keto 1% or 2%/higher? I do not have a prescription for it, my doctor just verbally mentioned "nizoral shampoo", and I see that I need something with "keto" in it. How often should I be applying it? I hear it is too harsh for daily use.

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                      • BigThinker
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1507

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hair204
                        I am going to get my first set of $75 per month real 1mg propecia for now and perhaps get 5mg prescribed at the next visit if possible. I don't want to use generic pills, but I am going to get generic 5% minox and keto.

                        Minox 5%, a 6 month supply for $26:


                        I am assuming the method and application is identical to regular rogaine. What do you guys think about kirkland?

                        Keto 1%, a 8oz bottle for $24:


                        Do I need keto 1% or 2%/higher? I do not have a prescription for it, my doctor just verbally mentioned "nizoral shampoo", and I see that I need something with "keto" in it. How often should I be applying it? I hear it is too harsh for daily use.
                        2% was too harsh for me, and you need a prescription to get it. Give it a shot if you want, otherwise get 1% over-the-counter.

                        Use 2x a week.

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                        • hair204
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 15

                          #13
                          Thanks, I am going to start with 1% 2x a week.

                          In regards to washing my hair in general (during showers), is it ok to wash 1x daily every morning, or should I be using shower caps to limit my hair-washing days to the shampoo days? Or does hair washing have no negative impact on my hair?

                          Also, DUT vs propecia, I hear DUT is stronger. Why/when should I be considering it? I am picking up 1mg propecia tomorrow but very curious about dut as well.

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                          • Notcoolanymore
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 2246

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hair204
                            Thanks, I am going to start with 1% 2x a week.

                            In regards to washing my hair in general (during showers), is it ok to wash 1x daily every morning, or should I be using shower caps to limit my hair-washing days to the shampoo days? Or does hair washing have no negative impact on my hair?

                            Also, DUT vs propecia, I hear DUT is stronger. Why/when should I be considering it? I am picking up 1mg propecia tomorrow but very curious about dut as well.
                            If you are going to be using minoxidil you will need to wash your hair daily. At least I do. My scalp does not feel clean after applying a couple of times. You should consider dut if you find propecia to be ineffective. You will need to give fin at least a year to 18 months to make that determination.

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                            • hair204
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 15

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
                              If you are going to be using minoxidil you will need to wash your hair daily. At least I do. My scalp does not feel clean after applying a couple of times. You should consider dut if you find propecia to be ineffective. You will need to give fin at least a year to 18 months to make that determination.
                              Thanks, just got my propecia today will start tonight. Is there an ideal time to take it? I am thinking 7-8pm every night would work best.

                              What NW would you say I am as of yesterday? I think I still look like 0-1 to most people but when I pull my hair back, I am at least 1:

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