Advice greatly needed

[WarLord]

I was taking it for years thinking I had no side effects because I could get it up and didn't grow tits.

Totally unaware it was altering the chemistry of my BRAIN.

So again, we have a case of a guy, who confused a leaflet to finasteride with that to dutasteride. LOL

C'mon, dear hypochondriacs, you are deadly annoying already! How can anybody believe your words? Your phantasmagories are becoming more and more ridiculous.

[El Nino]

So again, we have a case of a guy, who confused a leaflet to finasteride with that to dutasteride. LOL

C'mon, dear hypochondriacs, you are deadly annoying already! How can anybody believe your words? Your phantasmagories are becoming more and more ridiculous.

Hit a nerve have I? hehe

Won't you get paid this month if you can't discredit me?

Tbone says he's a lawyer and even he can't do it. It's simple really just prove what I am saying is false. I don't have to prove jack shit to anyone cos I know what was happening to me was real and not in my head.

Even eating chocolate can release Endorphins in your BRAIN and change your mood. What is so puzzling about a drug which messes with your hormone's doing something to your BRAIN too?

[25 going on 65]

Fin isn't known to affect neurosteroid production.
Dut does if I am not mistaken.

I take both.

[drybone]

Hit a nerve have I? hehe

Won't you get paid this month if you can't discredit me?

Tbone says he's a lawyer and even he can't do it. It's simple really just prove what I am saying is false. I don't have to prove jack shit to anyone cos I know what was happening to me was real and not in my head.

Even eating chocolate can release Endorphins in your BRAIN and change your mood. What is so puzzling about a drug which messes with your hormone's doing something to your BRAIN too?

Everything, including oxygen 'messes' -as you put it -, with your brain. You have provided no proof that there is any serious problem for the vast majority of people taking these medications. The FDA approves them. Take it up with them.

Go see a doctor about your loneliness and lack of self esteem . The essence of who you are is misery and you want everyone else to be as unhappy as you are, so you spout crap to drag them down.

[drybone]

Fin isn't known to affect neurosteroid production.
Dut does if I am not mistaken.

I take both.

Wow. I didnt know you could take both. Doesnt DUT take care of all the DHT ?

[25 going on 65]

Wow. I didnt know you could take both. Doesnt DUT take care of all the DHT ?

Not all DHT but a large amount.
& I do not know of any doctor who would advocate dut+fin together. I am rolling the dice. Not worried about sides or long term health....but if it somehow harms my hair I will be pissed

[El Nino]

Source. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...06.00053.x/pdf

Allopregnanolone levels are reduced in temporal cortex in patients with Alzheimer's disease compared to cognitively intact control subjects

Source. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...88198110000971

A wise man can learn from anyone, a fool from no one.

Souce. Dunno.

[25 going on 65]

Source. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...06.00053.x/pdf

Allopregnanolone levels are reduced in temporal cortex in patients with Alzheimer's disease compared to cognitively intact control subjects

Source. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...88198110000971

A wise man can learn from anyone, a fool from no one.

Souce. Dunno.

Oh nice. I was thinking if busting your balls for asking another poster to prove a negative but you delivered.
I guess this is why they started adding depression to the warnings right?

Shit I feel bad for guys that cannot handle these drugs. Hopefully legit new options will come out sooner than later, no one should have to live with balding unless by choice

[drybone]

Not all DHT but a large amount.
& I do not know of any doctor who would advocate dut+fin together. I am rolling the dice. Not worried about sides or long term health....but if it somehow harms my hair I will be pissed

I was under the impression DUT blocked all of the DHT is that right?

I am still too gun shy about trying DUT but I am warming up to it. How are the sides?

[drybone]

Oh nice. I was thinking if busting your balls for asking another poster to prove a negative but you delivered.
I guess this is why they started adding depression to the warnings right?

Shit I feel bad for guys that cannot handle these drugs. Hopefully legit new options will come out sooner than later, no one should have to live with balding unless by choice

He didnt prove that the vast majority or even any kind of noticable majority of users are affected by the above. Its a small minority who are.

Its not that its possible, its the fact he comes here and bends it into a scare tactic like its probable . Its not probable. Its unlikely at best.

Should they stick a warning label of depression? Maybe just to cover their butts.

[25 going on 65]

I was under the impression DUT blocked all of the DHT is that right?

I am still too gun shy about trying DUT but I am warming up to it. How are the sides?

It blocks all the types of enzymes that bond with T to create DHT (5-alpha reductase....I believe there are 3 types), but it does not drop your DHT to 0. You still will have some DHT in your system albeit much smaller amounts

I have not really noticed sides. I felt like my libido increased a little when I started. No idea if that is caused by the drug though

He didnt prove that the vast majority or even any kind of noticable majority of users are affected by the above. Its a small minority who are.

Its not that its possible, its the fact he comes here and bends it into a scare tactic like its probable . Its not probable. Its unlikely at best.

Should they stick a warning label of depression? Maybe just to cover their butts.

I just didn't realize there was valid scientific lit showing fin can affect neurosteroids, so I appreciated him backing that up.
tbh I did not read the full studies. However Merck did add depression as a possible side I think.

But yes I agree, most fin users obviously do not notice sides let alone mental ones. In my case it was actually a great anti depressant, but only because it significantly improved my hair.
We still need new treatments though for guys who cannot take this stuff.

[drybone]

It blocks all the types of enzymes that bond with T to create DHT (5-alpha reductase....I believe there are 3 types), but it does not drop your DHT to 0. You still will have some DHT in your system albeit much smaller amounts

I have not really noticed sides. I felt like my libido increased a little when I started. No idea if that is caused by the drug though



I just didn't realize there was valid scientific lit showing fin can affect neurosteroids, so I appreciated him backing that up.
tbh I did not read the full studies. However Merck did add depression as a possible side I think.

But yes I agree, most fin users obviously do not notice sides let alone mental ones. In my case it was actually a great anti depressant, but only because it significantly improved my hair.
We still need new treatments though for guys who cannot take this stuff.

That we do. I believe this may be the source of their angst. They feel cheated because they cannot take the meds so they want it to mean something by making it seem like its dangerous for everyone.

If we can just find enough products, sooner or later one will work for the guy who cant take fin or DUT. Different strokes for diff folks.

[Kenkieth16]

Borealis its good to have common sense ! im 20 as well...but people on this forum take the drug took likely, i mean who wants to have memory problems,weaker/lower muscle mass & low libido. ! NOT to be full of my self but im GREAT in the sex department ! I honestly think FIN is for older people thats not that interested into sex. && when your 20 your sex drive is at its all time HIGH ! But dont listen to what they say ! because I can almost guarantee youre gonna get Sideeffects. Hell I got side effects from Saw palmetto...& thats is suppose to be a weak DHT blocker, so Imagine if you took FIN ! But saw palmetto side effects are small tho...I mean I didnt have a dead d_ck...it was just a little softer.

At the end of the day, the ONLY way I would take FIN...is if I can take a small amount of it & have smallll sides. like 0.5mg. Other than that ***** FIN, dustateride and all dats all BS ! because im honestly not scared to go bald. Im scared to go bald at an early age

[El Nino]

Oh nice. I was thinking if busting your balls for asking another poster to prove a negative but you delivered.
I guess this is why they started adding depression to the warnings right?

Shit I feel bad for guys that cannot handle these drugs. Hopefully legit new options will come out sooner than later, no one should have to live with balding unless by choice

At least you have the intelligence and grace to admit you were wrong and acknowledge you have learnt something new. You have also proved the last fact in post 37 along with Tbone.

Did you know that Finasteride's first intended use was to treat men with BPH? It was pure accident that it was found to help with hair loss.

The stakes are high now cos of all the law suits against Merck. This means there is A LOT of money at steak so there are more in depth studies going on as I type this. Who knows what they will find out?

BTW. Post number 37 took me 10 minutes to compose. But I wanted to find the facts and not bury my head in the sand and only believe what I want. Unlike many guys on here.

[25 going on 65]

Did you know that Finasteride's first intended use was to treat men with BPH? It was pure accident that it was found to help with hair loss.

That much I did know. On dut+fin I imagine my prostate is the size of a pea right now.