Experiences Balding After 40 Years Old

[itsmyhairs]

What I meant was that if you're 40+ and you're married and shit then who cares about a little bit of hair loss?

It's nowhere near as devastating as it is for a guy that's 19, just started his adult life and has it completely destroyed by rapid balding.
Unless he's charismatic, tall, well built, intelligent, totally at peace with himself and oozes self confidence then it is over for that poor son of a bitch, he'll never get laid, he'll never find a partner, he'll never achieve success in college because he'll be afraid to face the world.

For a 20 year old guy that's losing his hair, he'd better be twice as good in every respect as his NW1 friends or it's GAME OVER.

[ChrisM]

I think he means the last elected president. Ford was appointed by Nixon to replace vice president Spiro Agnew. After which Nixon resigned and Ford took over the presidency.
Ford never won a presidential election.

He never used the word elected in his initial statement.. and that makes the difference. He used the word elected since then after the fact which opens the door to discuss Ford which disproves the first statement that there wasn't a bald man in office after Eisenhower period which was not true at all.

[ChrisM]

Ford wasn't elected into the presidency. And he did run against Carter and lost.

The OP never mentioned the word elected in his initial remark when I looked at it. He did mention it in the follow to say that as if to qualify both points that whether by election or otherwise no bald man has succeeded Eisenhower. That is clearly incorrect. As to the second point I might have confused him with LBJ who never sought a second term just previous to Nixon who( LBJ) also had a receding hairline at his age.

[gmonasco]

What I meant was that if you're 40+ and you're married and shit then who cares about a little bit of hair loss?

People don't magically stop caring about their appearances the moment they turn 40 or get married. Why do you think facelifts are such a common form of cosmetic surgery?

[Luzianaman]

Posting the Articles Would be Great

Yes it can start later in life. I have a couple of articles about it I can post the links if you like.

My hairline matured in my mid teens but I didn't start mpb (or at least I did not notice it) till I was pushing 40. Same with another friend- so yes it can happen.

Yeah it would be great if you can post the links.

What Norwood scale are you and your friend?

[mpb47]

Yeah it would be great if you can post the links.

What Norwood scale are you and your friend?

http://www. regrowhair .com/general ...air-loss-stop/
* http://www. regrowhair .com/general -hair - loss - topics/does-hair-loss-stop *

http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/12/05/balding-after-30-years-old/

I am about a 3v -least I think that is what I am but not good at judging. I posted pics a few days ago.


I have mentioned my friend before. He is right at 10 years older than me. No loss that I could tell till late 30's. By 40 he had receded and had a small spot in back. It seemed like it happened out of the blue so to speak. His girlfriend is in medical field and tried to get him on meds but he wouldn't do it. I lost contact when I went off to grad school but she later told me he slowly went bald over a 10 year period. Right now he is is a NW 5+

Based on what she said and what I have noticed, at our age it is usually more gradual than those in their 20's

But if you notice itching/burning than that means it is pretty fast.

If you don't have itching then that generally means it is gradual.

not sure why first link is not posting , but I added back in ..you will just have to remove the spaces

[Luzianaman]

Thanks So Much

http://www. regrowhair .com/general ...air-loss-stop/
* http://www. regrowhair .com/general -hair - loss - topics/does-hair-loss-stop *

http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/12/05/balding-after-30-years-old/

I am about a 3v -least I think that is what I am but not good at judging. I posted pics a few days ago.


I have mentioned my friend before. He is right at 10 years older than me. No loss that I could tell till late 30's. By 40 he had receded and had a small spot in back. It seemed like it happened out of the blue so to speak. His girlfriend is in medical field and tried to get him on meds but he wouldn't do it. I lost contact when I went off to grad school but she later told me he slowly went bald over a 10 year period. Right now he is is a NW 5+

Based on what she said and what I have noticed, at our age it is usually more gradual than those in their 20's

But if you notice itching/burning than that means it is pretty fast.

If you don't have itching then that generally means it is gradual.

not sure why first link is not posting , but I added back in ..you will just have to remove the spaces

Thanks much for the reply.

As or itching/ burning, it's been a fact of life for me and has been for many years (chronic skin problems. Eczema on feet and back of knees. Itchy scalp off and on for me whole life.)

Thanks a bunch!

[Luzianaman]

Addendum

http://www. regrowhair .com/general ...air-loss-stop/
* http://www. regrowhair .com/general -hair - loss - topics/does-hair-loss-stop *

http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/12/05/balding-after-30-years-old/

I am about a 3v -least I think that is what I am but not good at judging. I posted pics a few days ago.


I have mentioned my friend before. He is right at 10 years older than me. No loss that I could tell till late 30's. By 40 he had receded and had a small spot in back. It seemed like it happened out of the blue so to speak. His girlfriend is in medical field and tried to get him on meds but he wouldn't do it. I lost contact when I went off to grad school but she later told me he slowly went bald over a 10 year period. Right now he is is a NW 5+

Based on what she said and what I have noticed, at our age it is usually more gradual than those in their 20's

But if you notice itching/burning than that means it is pretty fast.

If you don't have itching then that generally means it is gradual.

not sure why first link is not posting , but I added back in ..you will just have to remove the spaces

ADDENDUM:

Are these the recent pics you mentioned?

I would say yes, this is a norwood 3v, but it looks pretty good when dry. Your crown is thin, but not completely bald and that's a good thing. My uncles have crowns that are nothing but skin (not one single wisp of hair). Your crown isn't completely bald and that's a good thing.

[Ktownmatti]

Hey Luz..

I'm almost in the same boat as you. Just turned 40 and I'm a NW2, but thinning a bit too. My hair still looks ok to the untrained eye, but I really want to preserve what I have, perhaps thicken things up a bit.

I started propecia 3 months ago and plan to stay on atleast a year to gauge results. If you are looking to maintain its your best bet. 90 % of men who take it lose no more hair.

[Luzianaman]

Thanks- Asked Doc About Propecia

Hey Luz..

I'm almost in the same boat as you. Just turned 40 and I'm a NW2, but thinning a bit too. My hair still looks ok to the untrained eye, but I really want to preserve what I have, perhaps thicken things up a bit.

I started propecia 3 months ago and plan to stay on atleast a year to gauge results. If you are looking to maintain its your best bet. 90 % of men who take it lose no more hair.

Thanks.

I went to the top recommended hair loss specialist in my part of the country to ask if I should be on Propecia.

The visit only served to confuse me unfortunately.

She took photos of the scalp and said I had little, if any miniaturization and that my hair was uniformly thick.

She didn't think I needed to be on Propecia but that I could use Rogaine three days a week but that it was "really up to me."


I thought if I was really losing hair she'd put me on Propecia. If I wasn't losing hair, then why Rogain three days a week?

I've never heard of using Rogaine three days a week, not even for maintenance purposes and frankly, I'm hesitant to use Rogaine because I've heard mixed reviews and I have scalp problems as it is (dermatitis).

I guess first order of business is to find another doctor but doctors who are skilled with assessing hair loss are not too common where I live.

Anyway... I'll keep looking.

NOTE:

When I started this thread, I had changed hair stylists. I went back to my old stylist who cut my hair like it used to be cut and it right now it doesn't look much different than it did six months ago. Something about my hair had changed, and I'd hoped that maybe part of it was a bad hair cut and at this point, I think that was the problem.

One stylist cut it jagged and uneven and I think maybe that was what had changed.

Keeping an eye on it though.

[konfusion]

Thanks.

I went to the top recommended hair loss specialist in my part of the country to ask if I should be on Propecia.

The visit only served to confuse me unfortunately.

She took photos of the scalp and said I had little, if any miniaturization and that my hair was uniformly thick.

She didn't think I needed to be on Propecia but that I could use Rogaine three days a week but that it was "really up to me."


I thought if I was really losing hair she'd put me on Propecia. If I wasn't losing hair, then why Rogain three days a week?

I've never heard of using Rogaine three days a week, not even for maintenance purposes and frankly, I'm hesitant to use Rogaine because I've heard mixed reviews and I have scalp problems as it is (dermatitis).

I guess first order of business is to find another doctor but doctors who are skilled with assessing hair loss are not too common where I live.

Anyway... I'll keep looking.

NOTE:

When I started this thread, I had changed hair stylists. I went back to my old stylist who cut my hair like it used to be cut and it right now it doesn't look much different than it did six months ago. Something about my hair had changed, and I'd hoped that maybe part of it was a bad hair cut and at this point, I think that was the problem.

One stylist cut it jagged and uneven and I think maybe that was what had changed.

Keeping an eye on it though.

Dear Luzianaman, docs usually have a different opinion about hairloss. Let me tell you my experience with my derm. My derm was a 40+ year old guy, who was a NW4. He also said that I have little miniaturaization, he considered me as NW1 and he suggested that I should not be using Fin (funny because I'm on Dutas at the moment). He also said that he would expect me to end up NW2. Strangely he also told me that I could use Minox 3 times a week. The thing I did not understand why he did not want me to use Fin if he thought I would be NW2? And why I should take his word as the absolute fact? I feel that my MPB is still progressing even though I'm on Dutas. I also have the scalp itch. Now the things is docs usually do not care about your loss unless you are a NW3. They consider lower NWs cosmetically OK, especially for men around 30 and older. So it's your opinion that counts when the issue is about your looks. If you feel like you have some loss and you wanna do something before it's too late, you should do so.

[Luzianaman]

All Well and Good But

Dear Luzianaman, docs usually have a different opinion about hairloss. Let me tell you my experience with my derm. My derm was a 40+ year old guy, who was a NW4. He also said that I have little miniaturaization, he considered me as NW1 and he suggested that I should not be using Fin (funny because I'm on Dutas at the moment). He also said that he would expect me to end up NW2. Strangely he also told me that I could use Minox 3 times a week. The thing I did not understand why he did not want me to use Fin if he thought I would be NW2? And why I should take his word as the absolute fact? I feel that my MPB is still progressing even though I'm on Dutas. I also have the scalp itch. Now the things is docs usually do not care about your loss unless you are a NW3. They consider lower NWs cosmetically OK, especially for men around 30 and older. So it's your opinion that counts when the issue is about your looks. If you feel like you have some loss and you wanna do something before it's too late, you should do so.

I can't write myself a prescription for fin and if I can't find a doctor who knows anything about spotting very early hair loss. What am I supposed to do? A good doctor is a very helpful (I would say essential) part of this equation and they are in very short supply.

[mpb47]

ADDENDUM:

Are these the recent pics you mentioned?

I would say yes, this is a norwood 3v, but it looks pretty good when dry. Your crown is thin, but not completely bald and that's a good thing. My uncles have crowns that are nothing but skin (not one single wisp of hair). Your crown isn't completely bald and that's a good thing.

Yes those are from last week. The last picture showing the crown with the hair spread so you could see it was taken in Feb.

My pattern is developing just like my uncles. His was more advanced at this point but he did not have any meds to fight it and is currently has a NW6 horseshoe.

You should start taking pictures because unless your mpb is rapid, you really can't tell what is going on because it will probably be very gradual. I started taking pictures when i first noticed it, so I can see when meds were working and other times when crown was slowly expanding.

[Luzianaman]

How Old are You?

Yes those are from last week. The last picture showing the crown with the hair spread so you could see it was taken in Feb.

My pattern is developing just like my uncles. His was more advanced at this point but he did not have any meds to fight it and is currently has a NW6 horseshoe.

You should start taking pictures because unless your mpb is rapid, you really can't tell what is going on because it will probably be very gradual. I started taking pictures when i first noticed it, so I can see when meds were working and other times when crown was slowly expanding.

What's your exact age?

[mpb47]

What's your exact age?

48 and crown started about 12 years ago.