3rd Procedure with Gho

[534623]

Good work, gc!

Not sure whether I should be surprised or not - it took me around 10 sec to find the area just through "looking" (the angle is similar to the old day 6 photo). The flash is a little bit disturbing - but you can see EVERYTHING. This photo could be completely enough for a nice comparison.

Maybe you find 2-3 other good photos from this area?

By the way - how do feel today?

[gc83uk]

Hi GC83UK,

Can you expand on the stick and place method? What exactly is HSI? Do they put a whole follicle with a hair sticking out into a needle and inject it or is it just the follicle without the hair or is it just part of the follicle or what?

I've heard people talk about how with Dr. Gho you can't see these dimple marks on the hairline, but I don't really understand what that means. Does HSI improve on this?

Does HSI have any other benefits besides the improved spacing you can achieve and the fact you can use it on your scarring alopecia? Does it heal faster or leave less scaring? How do they control the angle?

Thanks!

The spacing needed for HST is twice that of HSI. The angle is determined the same way as it is with HST because the grafts are placed one by one, you can see it and of course the direction. If I remember correctly there is a video of a Dutch celeb having HSI on her eyebrows which is on the hasci homepage.

Directly from Hasci site:
Higher density: now the hair stem cells can be implanted even more closely together. With HST, the implantation spacing is 0,2-0,3 mm, while with injection the spacing is 0,1 mm.

Faster healing: with HST, healing was already fast (1 to 2 days); with the injection method, there is essentially no recovery time in the restoration area because there are no wounds.

Even greater precision: Thanks to the refinement of the injection method, the precision of the method is unsurpassed.

Ideal for burn wounds: scar tissue from burn wounds has poor blood circulation. But the injection method does not require blood for healing, simply because there are essentially no wounds to require healing.

[gc83uk]

OK just uploaded the photos from the camera to PC, some okish photos, bare in mind I didn't have the pc to check them at the time of taking hence why I took so many!

From what I can gather this photo is of the same area that Iron Man was monitoring http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/14th%20Jan%202013%20053.JPG

I'll upload some before and afters of the recipient later tonight too.

[neversaynever]

You talk about the 2 pics you posted, where everybody can see your safe zone?
Here they are ...

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=98726&postcount=26

How do you know where your "safe zone" is at all?
Did you make some genetic tests with some hairs from different areas on your head before having the procedure?

In future, if you want some further hair transplants, I advise your new hair transplant doctor/clinic/nigam etc either

- using the good old punch method with 4mm inner-diameter punches;
- and/or the usage of Dr. Arvind's "expanding needle concept":

https://vimeo.com/52214081

Anyway, I think the guys (and gals) from HSI are glad that you currently can't afford a 2nd HST treatment (Gho's theory). Don't you think?

1. In the end they extracted some grafts from the side of my head, past my ear. You ask if I have done a genetic test to find out my safe zone, did THEY do a genetic test to find my safe zone? No. So your arguement there is flawed.

2. Those pictures are irrelevant to my point.

3. Im actually not unhappy they took hairs from that 'universal safe zone', was just pointing out that they did. Everyones safe zone is different, which is why a universal one kind of exists, because docs cant test ever patient for their entire safe zone.

4. Theres no way i would allow a standard fue doc or nigam to punch holes in my head

5. youre arguing for the sake of it. Lets get the thread back to topic.

[534623]

Wrong, they extracted well out of the safe zone for me (side of head)

You talk about the 2 pics you posted, where everybody can see your safe zone?
Here they are ...

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=98726&postcount=26

How do you know where your "safe zone" is at all?
Did you make some genetic tests with some hairs from different areas on your head before having the procedure?

In future, if you want some further hair transplants, I advise your new hair transplant doctor/clinic/nigam etc either

- using the good old punch method with 4mm inner-diameter punches;
- and/or the usage of Dr. Arvind's "expanding needle concept":

https://vimeo.com/52214081

Anyway, I think the guys (and gals) from HSI are glad that you currently can't afford a 2nd HST treatment (Gho's theory). Don't you think?

[neversaynever]

Sure, but such cases are rather rare. There must be 2 essential facts to be able to do this:

1) Really BIG areas/safe zones = bigger heads;
2) The donor area must be "excellent" for HST extractions (no curly hair etc) PLUS an above average DENSITY in the donor area.

Without these 2 essential facts - NO WAY on one hand, "too risky" concerning the donor regeneration rate on the other hand.

If gc is asking Dr. Gho the same question tomorrow - I'm almost 100% sure that he will say exactly the same.

Very right about point 2.

[neversaynever]

Yeah? Extracting them from WHERE? From gc's ass?

Even they would indeed be able to do this (3000 grafts) in some cases and just from the REAL SAFE ZONE - there is still Dr. Gho's law #1:

"NOT MORE THAN AROUND 2000 EXTRACTIONS PER TREATMENT - BECAUSE ...!"

hmmm, what did he say loud and clear concerning "because" in the 1st Kobren/Gho interview?

Wrong, they extracted well out of the safe zone for me (side of head)

[neversaynever]

I cant believe no other doc on the planet has tested this theory, by extracting some follicles, cut them in the right place, and implant both halves. Monitor the growth, and thickness of new hair. Is that rocket science? It wouldnt even infringe on Ghos in vivo patent. In fact his patent only covers europe anyway. Just winging because I cant afford another HST right now

Oh, congrats GC

[StinkySmurf]

Gho said to me today he will be offering the 'stick and place' method HSI to 'normal patients' from now. Clearly the more times they do this method the quicker they are getting, which has to be good news.

Hi GC83UK,

Can you expand on the stick and place method? What exactly is HSI? Do they put a whole follicle with a hair sticking out into a needle and inject it or is it just the follicle without the hair or is it just part of the follicle or what?

I've heard people talk about how with Dr. Gho you can't see these dimple marks on the hairline, but I don't really understand what that means. Does HSI improve on this?

Does HSI have any other benefits besides the improved spacing you can achieve and the fact you can use it on your scarring alopecia? Does it heal faster or leave less scaring? How do they control the angle?

Thanks!

[534623]

Perhaps all of the photos I have taken incorporate the area which you first monitored, I was just trying to be a precise as possible to give the best possible photo, that's it, ok?

I LOVE YOU! - and no, I'm not homo.

so, yes, everything is ok. Great.

I mean, aren't you curious YOURSELF to know, what really happend during the past 9 month within the 1st monitored area?

[gc83uk]

hmmm, because of this?


I mean, seriously - did you make 70 photos from your nose, eyes or ass or what?

Are you trying to be funny?

[gc83uk]

hmmm, because of this?


Why do you say "WHICH area I was monitoring" ??
How much pics (as already posted) do you need to SEE, which area I'm monitoring?? I don't get it ...

But -again, I'm pretty sure that there is at least 1 useful photo (out of 70) which contains THE observation area (blue square).

Your reading to closely to each word I say and you have understood me.

Fair enough you have understood me, probably my fault, but still just relax, this isn't a school exam.

Perhaps all of the photos I have taken incorporate the area which you first monitored, I was just trying to be a precise as possible to give the best possible photo, that's it, ok?

[534623]

Why you get all pissed?

I don't understand why you have to start like this again?

hmmm, because of this?

I've taken approx 70 odd photos last night, however I can't be sure which area is exactly the area Iron Man was monitoring.

Why do you say "WHICH area I was monitoring" ??
How much pics (as already posted) do you need to know and to SEE, which area I'm monitoring?? I don't get it ...

But -again, I'm pretty sure that there is at least 1 useful photo (out of 70) which contains THE observation area (blue square). I mean, seriously - did you make 70 photos from your nose, eyes or ass or what?

PLEASE don't say something TODAY, because i know that you are really tired today.

[gc83uk]

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A BEFORE PHOTO OF EXACTLY THE SAME AREA AS SHOWN IN ALL YOUR PHOTOS ABOVE - everything is fine.

Why you get all pissed?

I have done this, but only because I have taken a photo of 10 or so different angles. I haven't even checked the photos yet, tired as ****. I just cba right now, hence asking if you wanted to go through it, that is all.

I don't understand why you have to start like this again?

[534623]

Why are you pfffting?

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A BEFORE PHOTO OF EXACTLY THE SAME AREA AS SHOWN IN ALL YOUR PHOTOS ABOVE (behind your left ear) - everything is fine.

And if there is at least 1 photo (of 70 all in all) with good quality and contains my observation area - GREAT! No problem at all to find exact the same area.