3rd Procedure with Gho

[534623]

... if you had hst over 2 days you'd have around 3000 grafts at least

Yeah? Extracting them from WHERE? From gc's ass?

Even they would indeed be able to do this (3000 grafts) in some cases and just from the REAL SAFE ZONE - there is still Dr. Gho's law #1:

"NOT MORE THAN AROUND 2000 EXTRACTIONS PER TREATMENT - BECAUSE ...!"

hmmm, what did he say loud and clear concerning "because" in the 1st Kobren/Gho interview?

[didi]

"NOT MORE THAN AROUND 2000 EXTRACTIONS PER TREATMENT - BECAUSE ...!"

hmmm, what did he say loud and clear concerning "because" in the 1st Kobren/Gho interview?


according to hasci website its possible to have 2500 and even 3000 per treatment

why advertize something you cnt deliver


also they say 2.5 hairs per graft on average but in email they say it 2.0 hairs per grafts...


you see, thats called bs in my books...

[534623]

according to hasci website its possible to have 2500 and even 3000 per treatment

No - that's not what they say. Here is what they say.

"A maximum of approximately 2520 grafts can be transplanted per day of treatment."

Just because it is possible - it doesn't mean it's possible for each and every patient. For example:

Dr. Umar (the guy I always recommend you and still recommend you) says that he is able to transplant >10,000 body hairs per treatment. Do YOU have 10,000 useful body hairs for transplantation? Yes? Great.

[JJJJrS]

Yeah? Extracting them from WHERE? From gc's ass?

Even they would indeed be able to do this (3000 grafts) in some cases and just from the REAL SAFE ZONE - there is still Dr. Gho's law #1:

"NOT MORE THAN AROUND 2000 EXTRACTIONS PER TREATMENT - BECAUSE ...!"

hmmm, what did he say loud and clear concerning "because" in the 1st Kobren/Gho interview?

HASCI has preformed multiple procedure where they extracted 2000+ grafts. I've also been told that they've done a procedure of 3000+ grafts in a session so I don't think that rule exists.

[didi]

Exactly

Gho is just making up rules then he doesnt follow them...


I think iron man works for hasci, i never heard him criticize Gho, not even once...

just admit it

[Arashi]

No because I don't believe it enough to ask it to the master that is Gho.

Hehe. Last time I asked Kristel about it I got an inconclusive answer. I'll email her right away to get it once and for all sorted out. According to her, the 80% regrowth is excluding the failed extractions so *in theory* it shouldn't even matter. But nevertheless, still would like to get to the bottom of it.

[534623]

HASCI has preformed multiple procedure where they extracted 2000+ grafts. I've also been told that they've done a procedure of 3000+ grafts in a session so I don't think that rule exists.

Sure, but such cases are rather rare. There must be 2 essential facts to be able to do this:

1) Really BIG areas/safe zones = bigger heads;
2) The donor area must be "excellent" for HST extractions (no curly hair etc) PLUS an above average DENSITY in the donor area.

Without these 2 essential facts - NO WAY on one hand, "too risky" concerning the donor regeneration rate on the other hand.

If gc is asking Dr. Gho the same question tomorrow - I'm almost 100% sure that he will say exactly the same.

[534623]

Sure, but such cases are rather rare. There must be 2 essential facts to be able to do this:

1) Really BIG areas/safe zones = bigger heads;
2) The donor area must be "excellent" for HST extractions (no curly hair etc) PLUS an above average DENSITY in the donor area.

Without these 2 essential facts - NO WAY on one hand, "too risky" concerning the donor regeneration rate on the other hand.

If gc is asking Dr. Gho the same question tomorrow - I'm almost 100% sure that he will say exactly the same.

By the way ...

I'm also almost 100% sure, that around 7 years ago, in the very early beginnings of the HST technique - they tried this indeed and also with not "bigger heads" and extracted -in addition- too dense.
Guess what happend - or in other words, guess why they are so carefully today with high extraction numbers.

[hellouser]

Quick question;

If I'm coming in from Canada, how long should I stay around one of the HSI clinics? Would coming down for the weekend be enough time for a single day session or would I need to be in the area longer, as in, 7 days to do a one week follow up? My current job gives me plenty of vacation time per year, but I'm still in my first year and *may not* be able to take a whole week off until 1 year has passed.

[didi]

Is 1 week follow up necessary?

Whats deal with it

[Arashi]

Quick question;

If I'm coming in from Canada, how long should I stay around one of the HSI clinics? Would coming down for the weekend be enough time for a single day session or would I need to be in the area longer, as in, 7 days to do a one week follow up? My current job gives me plenty of vacation time per year, but I'm still in my first year and *may not* be able to take a whole week off until 1 year has passed.

You're allowed to fly immediately after surgery. However if you want to wear a hat, you have to wait 4-5 days before you can do that (in order not to damage the grafts). No follow up is needed.

[didi]

It makes sense to wait for wounds to heal up before flying, it will look freaky

are you saying when you leave clinic afer op you not allowed to put hat on?

[clarence]

Can you do a combover?

[Arashi]

It makes sense to wait for wounds to heal up before flying, it will look freaky

Compared to regular FUE you really don't look that bad the next day. Especially the donor looks quite good. Of course the recipient is very red, but it's not bloody, whereas with regular FUE it looks like you're all butchered up ...

Sure, you can lock yourself up for a few days in a hotel and get roomservice but it's going to be boring as hell. I'd fly the next day instead and relax at home.

are you saying when you leave clinic afer op you not allowed to put hat on?

Not a regular hat, no. At the clinic they can can supply something you can wear and which supposedly wouldn't damage the grafts but man, why would you even take the risk ?

[hellouser]

Compared to regular FUE you really don't look that bad the next day. Especially the donor looks quite good. Of course the recipient is very red, but it's not bloody, whereas with regular FUE it looks like you're all butchered up ...

Sure, you can lock yourself up for a few days in a hotel and get roomservice but it's going to be boring as hell. I'd fly the next day instead and relax at home.


Not a regular hat, no. At the clinic they can can supply something you can wear and which supposedly wouldn't damage the grafts but man, why would you even take the risk ?

Might as well stay in London or Amsterdam for a few days and do a little sight seeing while I'm there. But thanks for the info! Looks like I'll be able to get the procedure done over a weekend when I get a monday or friday off from a regular holiday.