3rd Procedure with Gho

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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    Originally posted by Arashi

    Haha I knew you would feel insulted
    Why? I like your analysis. It is so cute, sexy - and conclusive.

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    • 534623
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1854

      Originally posted by maxhair

      He also told me that he's had Acell since it was only available for animal use - and that it doesn't work because adult stem cells can not regenerate.
      Really?
      And why do you ask...



      ... so stupid questions about ACell/Gho?

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        Originally posted by 534623
        Why? I like your analysis. It is so cute, sexy - and conclusive.
        Yeah sure that's why you post a thumbnail instead of the real pictures (http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/attachme...4&d=1353515537 and http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/attachme...3&d=1353515537)
        It never was meant to be conclusive, hell I don't even have a camera, shot the pictures with my Galaxy S3, LOL. Just a quick proof that regrowth occurs and if you can't see that on those pictures, really, you'll need to get your eyes checked.

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          But Gaz's pictures are awesome, not only because he's using a good camera, but mainly because his density in his donor is relatively low, which makes the pictures awesome for analysis.

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          • 534623
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1854

            Originally posted by Arashi

            Yeah sure that's why you post a thumbnail instead of
            It never was meant to be conclusive, hell I don't even have a camera, shot the pictures with my Galaxy S3, LOL.
            Haha I knew you would feel insulted.

            By the way - aren't you the guy who tried to give others "instructions" how they should make HST photos? And aren't you the guy with much money but who can't buy a cheap digital camera?? I don't get it ...*LOL*

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            • Arashi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3888

              Originally posted by 534623
              Haha I knew you would feel insulted.

              By the way - aren't you the guy who tried to give others "instructions" how they should make HST photos? And aren't you the guy with much money but who can't buy a cheap digital camera?? I don't get it ...*LOL*
              You must confuse me again with somebody else, I'd really not wait much longer to get your head checked if I were you. Although you probably know as well as anybody that you're not quite sane so why spend the money on a shrink to confirm that. What do you expect, optimum HST pictures settings for a cell phone ? LOL.

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              • JJJJrS
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 638

                I finished the analysis of your donor gc83uk. Probably the last time I'll do something like that unless maxhair decides to pay me one day . I'll post the results probably some time tomorrow.

                Overall, I analysed 100+ extraction points from procedures 2 and 3. Anybody can monitor which grafts HASCI extracts, look at before and after comparisons, and observe grafts which have been extracted multiple times. I think it's about as complete of a look at the donor as you can get and should provide plenty of discussion.

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                • gc83uk
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1339

                  Originally posted by JJJJrS
                  I finished the analysis of your donor gc83uk. Probably the last time I'll do something like that unless maxhair decides to pay me one day . I'll post the results probably some time tomorrow.

                  Overall, I analysed 100+ extraction points from procedures 2 and 3. Anybody can monitor which grafts HASCI extracts, look at before and after comparisons, and observe grafts which have been extracted multiple times. I think it's about as complete of a look at the donor as you can get and should provide plenty of discussion.
                  Great news, looking forward to seeing it! I have recently taken a picture with a grade 0 after realising my recipient getting thinner, so the shorter the better in my case...so if you think that may help at all I will upload it. Feel free to create a new thread on it if you prefer.

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                  • JJJJrS
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 638

                    Originally posted by gc83uk
                    Great news, looking forward to seeing it! I have recently taken a picture with a grade 0 after realising my recipient getting thinner, so the shorter the better in my case...so if you think that may help at all I will upload it. Feel free to create a new thread on it if you prefer.
                    If you have a picture of the donor shaved to a grade zero I could easily include that in my analysis if you upload it. The results would be a little more accurate and understandable for anyone examining it.

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                    • gc83uk
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1339

                      Originally posted by JJJJrS
                      If you have a picture of the donor shaved to a grade zero I could easily include that in my analysis if you upload it. The results would be a little more accurate and understandable for anyone examining it.
                      Great, take a look at this one...

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                      • JJJJrS
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 638

                        Originally posted by gc83uk
                        Thanks gc. Great photo once again.

                        I want to make sure everything is accurate as possible, especially when comparing the quality of the grafts before and after extraction. When the donor is shaved down like that, it makes everything much clearer.

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          Great picture again Gaz !! And looking forward to your analysis JJJJrs !

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                          • gc83uk
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1339

                            Cheers fellas. I did a quick sample analysis on a relatively small area and found again approx 80% regrowth, but nothing like as conclusive as what JJJJrS and Iron Man have been doing.

                            Really looking forward to seeing JJ's analysis though, I never get tired of seeing the regrowth rates!

                            Arashi & IM, have you had many comments from friends/co workers etc about your procedure? I'm curious to know whether you tell them you've had a hair transplant etc.

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              Originally posted by gc83uk
                              Cheers fellas. I did a quick sample analysis on a relatively small area and found again approx 80% regrowth, but nothing like as conclusive as what JJJJrS and Iron Man have been doing.

                              Really looking forward to seeing JJ's analysis though, I never get tired of seeing the regrowth rates!

                              Arashi & IM, have you had many comments from friends/co workers etc about your procedure? I'm curious to know whether you tell them you've had a hair transplant etc.
                              I run a company with 2 others, I've told them both. They're also good friends and I didnt want to lie about why I was away for a few days. Other than that, I've told nearly nobody and nobody saw it. I think that's one of the great things about Gho, within 1 week it's already somewhat unnoticable (except for the redness of course).

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                              • 534623
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1854

                                Originally posted by 534623
                                ... and guess what:
                                This extraction site regenerated thick and strong TWO 2-hair grafts once again! Really unbelievable ... looks really like 'voodoo' ...
                                Now, in your Day-24 photo ...



                                ... it's even more obvious and clear visible than in the day 8 photo. I've just encircled and labelled it.

                                Anyway, seems extractions site #12 is indeed an immortal graft...

                                ... and I still wonder HOW the technician extracts such a graft at all, which is in a really strange configuration (two 2-hair grafts cross each other/they are very close together). I think the only way is to make 2 incisions/extractions in the same hole and therefore I wonder why he extracts such a graft at all.

                                Furthermore, such examples confirm what that Dr. Gho says - it is basically possible to extract the same graft multiple times and any "micro-scarring", as brought this issue up several times by Spencer Kobren, simply isn't and CAN'T be involved, because with the HST technique, they always extract just follicle tissue (same as with Cooley's hair plucks) and not skin tissue, as with normal FUE. Normal FUE is actually just a removal and transplantation of small SKIN GRAFTS - simply like normal SKIN TRANSPLANTS, just very small skin grafts.

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