The Ironman Procedure

[gc83uk]

hmmm, not true. At the moment they all stare (surprised) at my donor - lol

Can't be that bad, is it just 1 big scars or multiple scars?

I have about a 4 inch linear scar and relatively small biopsy scar which I'm not looking forward to airing, but it's right at the back of the queue of my concerns.

[clarence]

I'm probably going to need a much better camera then!

Nah, I'm just saying that taking the picture using the maximum zoom, even if it is your average consumer camera, will expand the scope of our donor area (if that's what you need), as opposed to an image without zoom where the camera is mounted closer to your head.

[gc83uk]

Nah, I'm just saying that taking the picture using the maximum zoom, even if it is your average consumer camera, will expand the scope of our donor area (if that's what you need), as opposed to an image without zoom where the camera is mounted closer to your head.

I would have thought using macro mode and taking the photo so my entire top of my recipient area is photographed would be better than using the zoom mode, because I'm fairly sure I'll lose focus.

Chime in IM

[JJJJrS]

Looks like other people have been following this thread. Interesting to read their thoughts :

Discussion thread about Iron_Man's HST

For anyone who may have missed my analysis of Iron_Man's photos, please read this post.

Also, for more concise documentation, without the bullshit, Google "IronMan’s hair multiplication ride …"

[Arashi]

This is almost impossible for what your asking. I'm not saying it's impossible, but what exactly do you suggest?

One huge photo of the recipient? I don't think that would work because the focus of different parts of the head would mean they would be uncountable and blurry, so it would need maybe 10 photos to shoot close enough would it not? Correct me if I'm wrong because I am in no way a photographer.

And if I were to do that each time I take the photos then I'd have to take the exact same 10 photos at the same angle each time to give it the best chance, right? That would be a nightmare.

Yeah it's not easy. But since they mix up the grafts, we can assume that a subset of the recipient will predict the whole recipient pretty well. So if we can just analyse an area where only transplanted grafts grow and count the 1s, 2s and 3s there, that would be interesting.

Counting the extractions all over the donor is not as difficult.

Yup. And it hasn't been done before so should be interesting

[Arashi]

hmmm, not true. At the moment they all stare (surprised) at my donor - lol

I'm sure you got stared at a lot, even before HST. That ugly smiley on the back of your misformed head sure must attract a lot of attention, right ?

[gc83uk]

I've completed an analysis of 126(!) extraction points from Iron_Man's right ear area. It doesn't cover the entire area but I don't think I can count anymore without going crazy Regardless, I feel that's more than enough extraction points to give us a general idea.

Right Ear, Day 3 - Analysis
Right Ear, Day 7 - Analysis
Right Ear, Day 1 - Analysis (some extraction points missing)

Due to the length of some hairs which obscured extraction points, there were a number of inconclusive points.

Nevertheless, based on my analysis, approximately 70% of Iron_Man's extraction points regenerated hair, 7 days after his HST procedure.

I've provided my rough draft analysis below.

Right Ear, Day 3 - Rough Draft
Right Ear, Day 7 - Rough Draft

In this rough draft, I mapped Iron_Man's right ear area. For any extraction point, the surrounding hairs are marked in red and given as references.

I encourage anyone to examine the analysis. If there's anything that doesn't seem right, please bring it to my attention.

Yea I missed this, good work, must have taken you hours!

Do you have a record of which circles/numbers have not yet regenerated? I don't know if IM will be trimming this area of his donor, but if he did then we could see what the latest is on those!

[Arashi]

Or yeah, maybe just close ups, like you suggested, of the whole recipient area, consisting maybe of 10 photo's ? It won't be easy and it won't be perfect but at least might give us an indication of the ratio between 1s, 2s and 3s

[534623]

... but at least might give us an indication of the ratio between 1s, 2s and 3s

Why don't you ask Kristel about the "ratio between 1s, 2s and 3s" issue and what does she say concerning this issue ?
And why didn't you make a nice close-up photo after your procedure to see and to count the "ratio"? oops, I forgot, not possible due to your BIG egg-shaped head ...

[gc83uk]

Or yeah, maybe just close ups, like you suggested, of the whole recipient area, consisting maybe of 10 photo's ? It won't be easy and it won't be perfect but at least might give us an indication of the ratio between 1s, 2s and 3s

Well at the moment I'm thinking of just one photo of the whole recipient area. I'll have to experiment again!

And maybe a panoramic view of the donor area in one picture.

[Arashi]

Why don't you ask Kristel about the "ratio between 1s, 2s and 3s" issue and what does she say concerning this issue ?

Hehe. Yeah I know ANYTHING that hasci tells you is good enough for you. But unlike you, some people actually want to see proof.

[534623]

Well at the moment I'm thinking of just one photo of the whole recipient area. I'll have to experiment again!

I think in your case they will make 6580 drills - estimated - to get your 1400 grafts.

[clarence]

Well I was mainly talking about cramming as many follicles as possible into one photo, if that's what we need to do (e. g. while photographing the donor zone). I'm kind of a photographer by profession, but I haven't been paying enough attention to this thread to know what we really need, so maybe its best to ignore me. Macro mode sure does give us a more intimate look at individual follicles etc., if that's what you're looking for.

[JJJJrS]

Yea I missed this, good work, must have taken you hours!

Do you have a record of which circles/numbers have not yet regenerated? I don't know if IM will be trimming this area of his donor, but if he did then we could see what the latest is on those!

It was more tedious then I expected. I was planning to do the whole area but got fed up after a certain point

Extraction points w/ no regeneration:
6, 14, 17, 24, 27, 30, 33-34, 37, 39, 43-45, 50-52, 63-64, 66, 73, 83, 85-86, 89-90, 92, 95, 97, 101-102, 105, 108, 110, 115-118, 124

A few of these points were obscured by some of the surrounding hairs so they can be considered inconclusive.

[Arashi]

Well at the moment I'm thinking of just one photo of the whole recipient area. I'll have to experiment again!

And maybe a panoramic view of the donor area in one picture.

panoramic view, that sounds good