Dr. Cole vs. Hair Science Institute(Dr. Gho)

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  • JudeL
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 60

    Dr. Cole vs. Hair Science Institute(Dr. Gho)

    Although I have done my research, I know there are people here who have definitely done much more than I, so I am seeking your opinion/advice.

    I am young, but still a viable candidate, I have undergone consultations with both clinics, and have decided I want to have a hair transplant procedure done within the next 2 years, preferably this summer.

    My question to you is, if you had the choice of which Dr. to go to, who would you go to and why?
  • JJacobs152
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 293

    #2
    Dr. Cole, hands down. Reasons include his reputation on this forum and other message boards. His work shows his dedication to the field of HT. Besides just doing HT, Dr. Cole is also quite active in research methods and trying to come up with novel ideas on trying to improve this area. There isn't any doubt from past patients and future patients about the work that Dr. Cole does. As in, he doesn't hide what he's doing - but rather shares it with the rest of the community compared to your other physician of choice. I do think that Dr. Gho is more affordable, but who can put a price tag on this procedure for us.

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    • JudeL
      Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 60

      #3
      Doesn't HASCI implement a technique/procedure that doesn't deplete your donor supply?

      I thought that was the major advantage to having the procedure done at his clinic. Also, I was under the impression that with traveling expenses (overseas to Holland, I live in the States) Dr. Gho comes out to be more expensive... but perhaps I am incorrect in this assessment. Even if Dr. Cole is cheaper, shouldn't what Dr. Gho's clinic offer be more sought after and expensive?

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      • JJacobs152
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 293

        #4
        Originally posted by JudeL
        Doesn't HASCI implement a technique/procedure that doesn't deplete your donor supply?

        I thought that was the major advantage to having the procedure done at his clinic. Also, I was under the impression that with traveling expenses (overseas to Holland, I live in the States) Dr. Gho comes out to be more expensive... but perhaps I am incorrect in this assessment. Even if Dr. Cole is cheaper, shouldn't what Dr. Gho's clinic offer be more sought after and expensive?
        I should've clarified that I didn't factor in traveling costs, but for the mere price for the procedure itself. Anesthesia, Surgical procedure, physician fees, clerical fees, etc etc.

        Unfortunately, there is no proof at this moment that HASCI provides unlimited donor supply. There are poor pictures stating this, but nothing else. I know Dr. Cole has actively tried to pursue meeting Dr. Gho in learning more about his strategies, but that hasn't been successful. Hence, my reason for choosing Dr. Cole. However, if proper results were released from Dr. Gho, in addition to: long term survival rates, physician comments and experience (regardless if positive or negative), actually scientific proof showing that donor supplies would not be limited - I would choose Dr. Gho over Dr. Cole.

        However, at the current moment I would choose to lose my hair instead of wasting time, money, and energy to having a HT without any promises. Also, keep in mind that Dr. Cole also implements PRP and A-Cell technology which would help to accelerate recovery. I think he has it patented as "CIT" if I'm not mistaken.

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        • JudeL
          Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 60

          #5
          Originally posted by JJacobs152
          I should've clarified that I didn't factor in traveling costs, but for the mere price for the procedure itself. Anesthesia, Surgical procedure, physician fees, clerical fees, etc etc.

          Unfortunately, there is no proof at this moment that HASCI provides unlimited donor supply. There are poor pictures stating this, but nothing else. I know Dr. Cole has actively tried to pursue meeting Dr. Gho in learning more about his strategies, but that hasn't been successful. Hence, my reason for choosing Dr. Cole. However, if proper results were released from Dr. Gho, in addition to: long term survival rates, physician comments and experience (regardless if positive or negative), actually scientific proof showing that donor supplies would not be limited - I would choose Dr. Gho over Dr. Cole.

          However, at the current moment I would choose to lose my hair instead of wasting time, money, and energy to having a HT without any promises. Also, keep in mind that Dr. Cole also implements PRP and A-Cell technology which would help to accelerate recovery. I think he has it patented as "CIT" if I'm not mistaken.
          thank you for clarifying .

          My only concern is because of my young(er) age than normal that a Dr. will deplete my donor supply-- putting me at future risk... This was why I am very interested in going forward with Dr. Gho's clinic.

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          • JJacobs152
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 293

            #6
            Originally posted by JudeL
            thank you for clarifying .

            My only concern is because of my young(er) age than normal that a Dr. will deplete my donor supply-- putting me at future risk... This was why I am very interested in going forward with Dr. Gho's clinic.
            Well, all I can say is, there is no evidence that Gho is able to regenerate donor supply. So certainly, fly over seas, get your HT, and post back on the forum when you've realized that regeneration wasn't possible.

            By the way, I would try harder next time in trying to indirectly plug in an advertisement in for Dr. G.

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            • JudeL
              Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 60

              #7
              Originally posted by JJacobs152
              Well, all I can say is, there is no evidence that Gho is able to regenerate donor supply. So certainly, fly over seas, get your HT, and post back on the forum when you've realized that regeneration wasn't possible.

              By the way, I would try harder next time in trying to indirectly plug in an advertisement in for Dr. G.
              Uh.... ok? You went from being informative/helpful to assuming/rude.

              I think you're confused?

              If a Dr. is saying he can get donor hair to regenerate, has opened multiple clinics in Europe and has had some well-known clientele, don't you think there may be something to what he's doing? Why should you immediately dismiss it as lies?

              And, what you commented on the post could be an advertisement for Dr. Cole.... So please have some respect for people posting here, don't accuse them of something that you have no possibility of knowing whether it's true or not. Rather immature and really harms your credibility, doesn't help you or the Dr. you advocate.

              EDIT: And so you won't somehow misconstrue my reply, I'll be outright, I do not work with or have any ties with ANY doctor, I am someone seeking to do a procedure and am trying to figure out which Dr. is best for me given my age and hair loss. I have never met or even spoken to Dr. Gho nor am I in anyway attempting to advertise for any doctor. Grow up, relax, and don't be so cynical, it's rather troubling.

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              • 534623
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1854

                #8
                Originally posted by JJacobs152

                ...Dr. Cole does. As in, he doesn't hide what he's doing - but rather shares it with the rest of the community compared to your other physician of choice. .
                Let me look ...
                Claim X:
                "The doctor in question does not dare to give lectures at which hair surgeons are present" (page 5)

                Incorrect and misleading.
                It is easy to verify that the following lectures were given at (international) conferences on the Hair Stem Cell Transplantation technique ® of the Hair Science Institute and were all open to the public, colleagues and specialists:

                - 2006, 8 June. Cosmoderm VIII Meeting, Rotterdam, NL. Follicle by Follicle / HairStemcell Transplantation. Coen G. Gho.

                - 2007, 23 March. Anti-Aging Medicine World Congress 2007, Monte Carlo, Monaco. Human Follicular Stem cells: Today and tomorrow. Coen G. Gho

                - 2007, 16 May. European Academy of Dermato-Venerology Congress 2007, Vienna, Austria. Hair Stemcell Transplantation. Coen G. Gho

                - 2008, 5 September. International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery (ISHRS) Congress 2008, Montreal, Canada. Hair Stemcell Transplantation. Coen G. Gho.

                - 2009, 25 July. International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery (ISHRS) Congress 2009, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Hair Stem cell Transplantation – New Concepts & Insights. Coen G. Gho.
                In this paper/pdf-file, Dr. Gho didn’t even mention ALL his lectures in the past – for example:

                Part 3 of Hair Stemcell Transplantation®: Follicular Stemcell Transplantation - The possibilities and limitations - By Coen Gho, MD

                … presented at 15th annual meeting of ISHRS in Las Vegas, 2007.

                Anyway, seems your comment makes you, indeed, suspect ...

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                • JudeL
                  Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 60

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 534623
                  Let me look ...


                  In this paper/pdf-file, Dr. Gho didn’t even mention ALL his lectures in the past – for example:

                  Part 3 of Hair Stemcell Transplantation®: Follicular Stemcell Transplantation - The possibilities and limitations - By Coen Gho, MD

                  … presented at 15th annual meeting of ISHRS in Las Vegas, 2007.

                  Anyway, seems your comment makes you, indeed, suspect ...
                  Thank you for that.

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                  • JudeL
                    Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 60

                    #10
                    I wish I would've posted this thread in another section so I could get more input

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                    • 534623
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1854

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JudeL
                      I wish I would've posted this thread in another section so I could get more input
                      This depends on which input exactly to which doctor or procedure.

                      If you're looking for just an advise in general, first of all,
                      you must FULLY understand the following 2 lections:



                      So, to which lection do you want more input, if you plan a hair transplant?

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                      • JudeL
                        Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 60

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 534623
                        This depends on which input exactly to which doctor or procedure.

                        If you're looking for just an advise in general, first of all,
                        you must FULLY understand the following 2 lections:



                        So, to which lection do you want more input, if you plan a hair transplant?
                        Although I appreciate the imagery and understand to some extent what the message it's trying to convey is...input to me is the following:


                        input |ˈinˌpo͝ot|
                        noun
                        1 what is put in, taken in, or operated on by any process or system: perceptions and sensory input.
                        a contribution of work, information, or material: there is little input from other professional members of the team.
                        • energy supplied to a device or system; an electrical signal: the input is a low-frequency signal.
                        the action or process of putting or feeding something in: the input of data to the system.
                        • the information fed into a computer or computer program: pen-based computers take input from a stylus.

                        input
                        noun
                        1 an error resulted from invalid input: data, details, information, material; facts, figures, statistics, particulars, specifics; informal info.
                        2 I value your input: contribution, offering, idea, opinion.


                        :P <3

                        So I was hoping for a bit more detail, personal experiences/knowledge and opinions!

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                        • JudeL
                          Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 60

                          #13
                          Wonder if anyone could share some info?

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                          • Wiffle
                            Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 45

                            #14
                            The only reason I might prefer Dr. Cole is his spectacular results on the hairline. That takes artistry and a very high skill level. One possibility, I'm thinking is to have Dr. Cole do the hairline/front, and have Dr. Cole fill in a bit of thinning on the crown.

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                            • Wiffle
                              Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 45

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Wiffle
                              The only reason I might prefer Dr. Cole is his spectacular results on the hairline. That takes artistry and a very high skill level. One possibility, I'm thinking is to have Dr. Cole do the hairline/front, and have DR. GHO fill in a bit of thinning on the crown.

                              EDIT in BOLD - sorry!

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