HASCI analysis w/ photos - results

[gc83uk]

I haven't read this thread from start to finish or if I did it would have been sometime ago.

Anyway to answer your question and what Arashi was posting sometime ago it didn't really apply to me about the donor not regenerating.

My situation was, nobody and I mean nobody would do a hair transplant on me because of my scarred recipient area and low donor.

I search out Gho and noticed he was transplanting on burn victims and knew this was my opportunity.

I also realised that I could never really have e.g 10,000 double/triplet Fu's via regular FUE, if I had have been accepted anywhere prior to Gho, then it would have only been about 2500 FUE on offer. The problem with this, at least at the time, was that I couldn't have regular FUE because of the scaring white dot situ. I'd have to grow my hair long.

With Gho/Hasci, I feel confident to shave my head down to whatever grade I want should I choose to.

It's not for everyone, granted, but at the time it was my only viable option.

I believe there is some subtle regrowth, but even if there is none, the fact that its given me the opportunity to live a normal life is good enough for me.

[AlmostUndone]

I would also go back again. It's been over 3 years since my last procedure, but I'd like to go for more density whilst keeping the donor area as scar free.

This has always been my main reason for choosing Hasci.

You are also unshaken in your earlier belief that the hair regenerated to some extent? Has this thread had an effect on you?

[gc83uk]

Hey gc83uk, do you think one or two more would eventually bring you to a form of definitive satisfaction and thus rest?

Hi Caddarik,

Yes absolutely. I am already partly satisfied, but it would be nice to improve the situation another level

[caddarik79]

I would also go back again. It's been over 3 years since my last procedure, but I'd like to go for more density whilst keeping the donor area as scar free.

This has always been my main reason for choosing Hasci.

Hey gc83uk, do you think one or two more would eventually bring you to a form of definitive satisfaction and thus rest?

[gc83uk]

I would also go back again. It's been over 3 years since my last procedure, but I'd like to go for more density whilst keeping the donor area as scar free.

This has always been my main reason for choosing Hasci.

[caddarik79]

Hi,

Having followed this thread you'll probably think I'm insane, but I'm considering a third procedure with HASCI. My first two have been fine, but as others have experienced the density did not fulfil my expectations. But then again I think it may be hard for most clinics to reach my expectations?

The reasons I personally might consider HASCI again is;
1. Better the devil you know. I'm kinda scared to try another FUE surgeon who could potentailly leave my donor looking worse with no better recipient.
2. Location. I personally would find travelling abroad for a HT pretty stressful! I appreciate being able to drive home directly after a procedure and hide for two weeks until I'm healed.
3. Donor. I know it's doubtful there's much regeneration happening, but my donor seems pretty good, which is something I've considered. As previously mentioned I would like to know of any other clinics that use a similar size punch that would leave very minimal scarring?

Not sure what to expect, but if anyone else feels similar (unlikely ) and has discovered viable, better alternatives I would be interested to know.

Thanks

Hey Ginkgo,

Same here!
I cannot deny that the work put by Arashi and Almostundone is again leaving some disappointment towards HASCI.
On the other hand as you said, you were quite fine with the already two procedures and I guess, you are just trying to bridge your time until something like Tsuji Lab allows you to give you back everything

I am in the same situation, hesitating for a second either with HASCI or with a good FUE

A question though!

Were you more happy after the second than the first?
Does a second procedure brings something more comforting, solid in terms of coverage?

Thanks

[Ginkgo]

Hi,

Having followed this thread you'll probably think I'm insane, but I'm considering a third procedure with HASCI. My first two have been fine, but as others have experienced the density did not fulfil my expectations. But then again I think it may be hard for most clinics to reach my expectations?

The reasons I personally might consider HASCI again is;
1. Better the devil you know. I'm kinda scared to try another FUE surgeon who could potentailly leave my donor looking worse with no better recipient.
2. Location. I personally would find travelling abroad for a HT pretty stressful! I appreciate being able to drive home directly after a procedure and hide for two weeks until I'm healed.
3. Donor. I know it's doubtful there's much regeneration happening, but my donor seems pretty good, which is something I've considered. As previously mentioned I would like to know of any other clinics that use a similar size punch that would leave very minimal scarring?

Not sure what to expect, but if anyone else feels similar (unlikely ) and has discovered viable, better alternatives I would be interested to know.

Thanks

[Skywalker]

Great work...

They might perhaps offer a reason, "why it didn't work fo this particular client", where such be the case.

I guess I must have spilled out 500+ workhours to bring you all this analysis, so it's a shame it isn't seeing much exposure beyond the precincts of this forum. Also, for the last month I've been trying to message Spencer Kobren, if he'd feel drawn to put a turn on the whole matter, but there has been no reply. Is there an admin who is in contact with him, who could tell him about our efforts here @ forums?

I suspect a lot of guys have been looking at this 'AlmostUndone', at least I hope so. I for one would like to express my appreciation for what you have done - & I hope you get on Spencer Kobren's show to discuss it.

[cocacola]

They might perhaps offer a reason, "why it didn't work fo this particular client", where such be the case.

I guess I must have spilled out 500+ workhours to bring you all this analysis, so it's a shame it isn't seeing much exposure beyond the precincts of this forum. Also, for the last month I've been trying to message Spencer Kobren, if he'd feel drawn to put a turn on the whole matter, but there has been no reply. Is there an admin who is in contact with him, who could tell him about our efforts here @ forums?

Many thanks for the efforts you put in this. I am no expert on this, but let's not give up on getting this out and try to reach the admins.

[AlmostUndone]

They are still in business cause nobody can prove its not working

Who wants to invest time and money to prove they are selling split graft fue ?

Any surgeon could open ht clinic and copy hasci's business model and get away with it.
Samart people can put 2 and 2 together, look at celwbrities they done, are they walkin around with full head of hair?why not?comsidering money is not an issue i doubt they just given up half way though.

What do my photos and study prove then?

[ss1980]

I hear you. It's such a shame that HASCI is still in business selling their lies. It feels so unfair.

They are still in business cause nobody can prove its not working

Who wants to invest time and money to prove they are selling split graft fue ?

Any surgeon could open ht clinic and copy hasci's business model and get away with it.
Samart people can put 2 and 2 together, look at celwbrities they done, are they walkin around with full head of hair?why not?comsidering money is not an issue i doubt they just given up half way though.

[Arashi]

They might perhaps offer a reason, "why it didn't work fo this particular client", where such be the case.

I guess I must have spilled out 500+ workhours to bring you all this analysis, so it's a shame it isn't seeing much exposure beyond the precincts of this forum. Also, for the last month I've been trying to message Spencer Kobren, if he'd feel drawn to put a turn on the whole matter, but there has been no reply. Is there an admin who is in contact with him, who could tell him about our efforts here @ forums?

I hear you. It's such a shame that HASCI is still in business selling their lies. It feels so unfair.

[AlmostUndone]

But how do you do this ? They can always say "ok, maybe it did not work due to some reason for this particular client, but look at out publicized research, showing it DOES work". What do you do then ?

They might perhaps offer a reason, "why it didn't work fo this particular client", where such be the case.

I guess I must have spilled out 500+ workhours to bring you all this analysis, so it's a shame it isn't seeing much exposure beyond the precincts of this forum. Also, for the last month I've been trying to message Spencer Kobren, if he'd feel drawn to put a turn on the whole matter, but there has been no reply. Is there an admin who is in contact with him, who could tell him about our efforts here @ forums?

[ss1980]

My hair is starting to thin now behind the part that HASCI did in my first treatment. I think I'll wait until it gets a bit thinner and then in 1-2 years maybe get another FUE, I'm not sure yet. I am sure I won't go back to HASCI. I don't live in the Netherlands (anymore) but I think that if I'm going to get a FUE, I might do it in the Netherlands. I'm still reading the Dutch forums and one Dutch clinic seems to get good reviews from the people who went there. But I guess that's the way to go, research in your area for a good FUE doctor and go there.

I'm not hopeful for any breakthroughs in the next 10 years, so I'm just counting on a 2-3 FUE surgeries in the future to get me through.

And about FUE dots, I think that really depends on the size of the drill. There are other clinics out there that use the same size as HASCI uses, if you're worried about that, you should do some research into that and find a clinic with the same drill size. HASCI uses 0.6mm drill size. There are several clinics that offer this. However some clinics prefer bigger drills, because they say that 0.6mm drill might cause 'banana' hairgrowth (which indeed happens for quite a few grafts in my case). But if you really are worried about 'fue dots' then that's something you might prefer.

I don't think a good clinic causes any visible FUE scarring though.

The only thing I find appealing with HASCI is their needle size, Im serious. Im looking for clinic that uses .6mm drill so I can avoid scaring.

Im thinking Dr Cole or some Dr from belgium, Bisanga i think who are good hairline experts. Im not sure what size they use.

Can you give names of docs who use 0.6mm drills so i will do some research, My hairline has been done by hasci and its too high and unutural , think dean saunders

[JJJJrS]

Great work with the analysis! It seems that it backs up the conclusion many of us came to a few years ago - that Gho is essentially splitting follicular units and there isn't any multiplication occurring.

It's a shame that HASCI continues to advertise the HST procedure as hair multiplication when that clearly isn't the case. If there is any aspect they should be emphasizing, it's the minimal impact that their procedure has on the donor area (often at the expense of the recipient however...). But continuing to claim that they can consistently get two hair follicles from one is very misleading.

Nice to still see some familiar faces around and hope everyone is doing well! I personally felt that there was no point holding my breath for any new procedures in the near future so I've tried to move on (i.e., cut my hair short and try not to focus on it too much). Would be nice to hear some updates from some of the others who used to be active here (Gaz, Ironman).