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  • gc83uk
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1339

    #46
    Originally posted by Arashi
    Well, if you look at the literature (internet), there's some variance in the average hair/FU, I found reports varying from 2.0 to 2.8 hairs/FU, most seem to agree it's about 2.5. That's why I took that number. I just looked at several cases though, from people who posted how many 1's, 2's, 3's and 4's they've got and I'm getting the impression that it's actually indeed a bit lower than 2.5, probably around 2.1 from what I've seen so far (I saw results varying from 1.75 to 2.5). That's still a lot higher than hasci (I think my own result is about 1.2-1.25). So if you factor in that difference, then HASCI probably will be the most expensive clinic in the world !
    Well that's a start coming down from 2.5 to 2.1. I would agree that is about the average from a decent surgeon, perhaps even 2.0. It makes Hasci seem just that little bit better.

    Like I said I would have done well to get 1.8 hairs per graft from regular fue, so with my 1.4 I'm only .4 hair a graft worse off... And when you factor in the high yield of HST vs FUE, then I might just have more hairs ;-)

    You've gotta be positive hey!

    So what's your plan for Hasci? Or do you not want to disclose that here?

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      #47
      Originally posted by gc83uk
      So what's your plan for Hasci? Or do you not want to disclose that here?
      I've contacted some people to hear if they had some idea's about the best way to proceed. Their answers vary. One thing I was thinking of is that show on fraudsters on Dutch Television called "Tros opgelicht": http://www.opgelicht.nl/ which I think would be a great option. However their format is ALWAYS that the guy who got scammed and who contacted the show, gets interviewed. I appreciate my privacy and there's simply no way I would want to go on Dutch Television regarding a show on fraud with Hair transplants, lol. So that's not an option (unless we could find somebody else who would want to do that, but I'm pretty sure nobody would want to be on television regarding fraud with his hair transplant, hehe).

      But I'm still looking at other things. If you, or anyone else, thinks he has a good idea, that's very welcome of course.
      Last edited by Winston; 08-11-2014, 09:26 AM.

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      • 35YrsAfter
        Doctor Representative
        • Aug 2012
        • 1418

        #48
        Originally posted by ss1980
        I had 1400 removed in a few hours by hasci tech, they do it really fast so I think 35yrsafter is wrong about that remark. So good doctor should be able to do it even faster, watch utube videos and you will see how fast hasci extracts grafts.

        That being said grafts splitting should be cheaper than regular fue.
        Dr. Cole attends surgery workshops every year where many of the top FUE surgeons showcase their skills and techniques. He tells the story of a tiny punch advocate who "fell on his face" during a live surgery demonstration, transecting follicles while using his .7 punch.

        In one of Gho's videos a technician is shown using what Gho claims to be a .5 punch. I could hypothetically use a .5 punch extremely fast in Dr. Cole's powered isolation device. Unfortunately a high degree of follicle transection would be the result. If Gho can transect follicles and get 2 from one, he's on to something. Unfortunately I haven't seen any photographic evidence of follicle regeneration at the consistently high levels Gho claims. Gho's patients seem happy with their donors, but I'm not hearing rave reviews about their growth.

        Take a look at the image below. Consider the margin of error while using a .5 punch.

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        35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office - forhair.com - Cole Hair Transplant, 1045 Powers Place, Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 - Phone 678-566-1011 - email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
        The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
        Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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        • 35YrsAfter
          Doctor Representative
          • Aug 2012
          • 1418

          #49
          In addition, how can a curved follicle be scored and removed with a .50 punch without transection? I doubt there is a doctor alive who could remove a curved follicle with a .50 punch while maintaining a low transection rate. So... If Gho intrigues you and you are considering going to him, I suggest that he proves to you that he can consistently get both halves of a transected follicle to grow. Otherwise you are wasting precious donor hair, getting minimal growth in exchange for a great looking donor.

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          35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office - forhair.com - Cole Hair Transplant, 1045 Powers Place, Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 - Phone 678-566-1011 - email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
          The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
          Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            #50
            Where's IronMan? Haven't heard from him in a very... very long time.

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            • ss1980
              Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 67

              #51


              Every time i visit this page it cracks me up, Dont you like how niggam shaved guys head to make him nw6. the guy is simply nothing short of amazing:)

              I know its not related to this thread but in a way it is if you think about it

              con should be exposed

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              • gc83uk
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1339

                #52
                Originally posted by ss1980
                I know its not related to this thread but in a way it is if you think about it

                con should be exposed
                Yawn, go and do something about it then.

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  #53
                  Originally posted by ss1980
                  http://drnigams.weebly.com/hm--donor-doubling.html

                  Every time i visit this page it cracks me up, Dont you like how niggam shaved guys head to make him nw6. the guy is simply nothing short of amazing:)

                  I know its not related to this thread but in a way it is if you think about it

                  con should be exposed
                  I agree. So I've decided to go for it ! I have just downloaded a simple website template that I'm going to use, I'll buy a webdomain and will publish everything we have on HASCI on it ! I agree this is the best option to go. Will take some time though ...

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    #54
                    Originally posted by ss1980
                    http://drnigams.weebly.com/hm--donor-doubling.html

                    Every time i visit this page it cracks me up, Dont you like how niggam shaved guys head to make him nw6. the guy is simply nothing short of amazing:)

                    I know its not related to this thread but in a way it is if you think about it

                    con should be exposed
                    This is the best photo:



                    Just look at the amateur photoshop work on the left. Nigam essentially used the after photo, tried to clone the forehead skin area onto a balding area but noticed that skin tones, shadows and highlights are different and didn't look right and ended up doing a TERRIBLY OBVIOUS job of using the smudge tool thinking it will blend well.

                    This is the kind of crap you see on 4chan.

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                    • ss1980
                      Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 67

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      I agree. So I've decided to go for it ! I have just downloaded a simple website template that I'm going to use, I'll buy a webdomain and will publish everything we have on HASCI on it ! I agree this is the best option to go. Will take some time though ...

                      Great idea, you can use simple and easy to use web builders such as webs,weebly and there are many others out there. it doesnt need to be fancy website, imo the simpler the better as long as it has all the info in it

                      drghotruth, drghoexposed,com are some good catchy domain names

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        #56
                        Originally posted by ss1980
                        Great idea, you can use simple and easy to use web builders such as webs,weebly and there are many others out there. it doesnt need to be fancy website, imo the simpler the better as long as it has all the info in it

                        drghotruth, drghoexposed,com are some good catchy domain names
                        Already bought a nice domain and first page is ready already LOL Will post the link here when everything is ready ! Indeed nothing fancy, we just need a site that shows an overview of all we've got on HASCI's HST.

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                        • joachim
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 559

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Arashi
                          Already bought a nice domain and first page is ready already LOL Will post the link here when everything is ready ! Indeed nothing fancy, we just need a site that shows an overview of all we've got on HASCI's HST.
                          that's great. we appreciate your work. it's those relatively small efforts which create a difference and help preventing a lot of damage to unknown people.

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            #58
                            Originally posted by joachim
                            that's great. we appreciate your work. it's those relatively small efforts which create a difference and help preventing a lot of damage to unknown people.
                            So, I think it's about ready:



                            What do you guys think ? It's very basic but I think it's got most of the info and serves as a nice overview of the knowledged we've collected so far.

                            @Gaz: I also did an analysis of your recipient, turns out your hair/graft ratio is 1.28, much like the other results. Anyway, enjoy, let me know what you guys think ! And does anyone know how to make this watchable on smartphones ? The site somehow doesn't scale correctly. It's the first time I've built a site actually

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                            • Ted
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 156

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Arashi
                              So, I think it's about ready:



                              What do you guys think ? It's very basic but I think it's got most of the info and serves as a nice overview of the knowledged we've collected so far.

                              @Gaz: I also did an analysis of your recipient, turns out your hair/graft ratio is 1.28, much like the other results. Anyway, enjoy, let me know what you guys think ! And does anyone know how to make this watchable on smartphones ? The site somehow doesn't scale correctly. It's the first time I've built a site actually
                              Good work!

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                              • caddarik79
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 495

                                #60
                                you work very hard to debunk them!!!

                                are you planning to inform them about your work? to see if they are more willing to debate?

                                what a pity, I was really 100% Gho and relieved to have found them, two years later and because of all what you demonstrated, I still cannot decide if I go for another session or not!!!

                                cause clearly, giving 10.000€ for a lie... and false claim... too expensive!

                                why don't they debunk you?

                                I am amazed by Gaz results, but each time we opened a thread on them, you killed them!!! and you have strong arguments!!!

                                They seem so professional and are always available, it's a pity!!!! it needs to be confirmed in one direction or another!!!

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