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  • Arashi
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 3888

    Wesley's nightmare with Dr Nigam

    Wesley just spoke today on the duth forum regarding his experience with Nigam. Some translation (by me) of the most important things he said ->

    The stem cell are in some kind of serum, I've gotten really sick (in shock), my lymph nodes were swelling up after which I got steroids to disable my immune system ... I'm so happy I am still in good health, I've done every possible check out there including checks for cancer, all for a very good reason as you guys now understand, so I'm happy those tests turned out negative but believe me, do NOT go to India
    His original text in Dutch:

    "mensen , een goeie raad :

    ga niet naar india , toch niet nu , voor er harde bewijzen opduiken...

    het is de kost en moeite niet waard momenteel...

    vliegtuig + hotel + clinic

    de rekening loopt heel snel op , regel gewoon een goeie fue , of fue met bodyhair/ baardhaar mix ht in europa...

    als jullie mijn advies op prijs stellen , ik zou het niet meer doen....
    de stemcells zitten in soort van serum , ik ben er echt ziek van geweest (schock)
    ik en de andere persoon hebben onderling beslist om iedereen te waarschuwen , de risks wegen niet af tegenover de gains...
    opgezette lymfeklieren , daarna steroid gekegen om imuumsysteem plat te leggen , ben al blij dat ik in goede gezondheid ben...
    niet voor niks al 2 megauitgebreide onderzoeken ondergaan , bloed tot in de puntjes laten uitpluizen of eventuele rare zaken , kankerenzymen enz
    gelukkig is alles goed , maar geloof me ga niet naar india...

    ik kan er een heel boek over schrijven
    wat nog kan , hele aga verhaal van begin tot nu...
    denk dat ik momenteel al een nieuwe audi a4 s-line kwijt ben aan mijn haar totaliteit

    het heeft me momenteel de hele gebeurtenis al veel geld en moeite gekost , en persoonlijk vond ik het geen meerwaarde geven tegenover een ht clinic
    trouwens er zijn projecten in opstart in europa , dat je van je stoel nog gaan blazen , ik meld er meer over zodra de oprichters groen licht geven...

    volg mijn wijze raad : spaar je geld nog momenteel...

    van een kant heb ik mijn leven op het spel gezet voor beetje haar..."
  • Skywalker
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 63

    #2
    Blimey... it just gets worse and worse doesn't it

    Let's hope he's OK.

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    • cocacola
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 222

      #3
      Wow i wonder if there could be some legal recourse against him, this is unacceptable!

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      • Morbo
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 262

        #4
        Going by his posts on this forum I'm actually impressed (if) he's able to grow cancercells or tumors. I wouldn't give it to him being able to grow a fungus, let alone hair.

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #5
          If Nigam isn't in jail right now, someone should see to it that he does end up there.

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          • huawei
            Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 85

            #6
            What in the absolute ****!

            Something tells me there would be a clause in their contract so that Wesley can't sue to report it...

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            • Boldy
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 287

              #7
              I'm currently having allot of regret that i have done my fue(800 grafts) there..

              aside from the artistic skills, serum etc,

              I'm still having inflammation at the hairline where the grafts are placed at nigams clinic 9 months ago, so i contacted a clinic to look at it. this weekend they where able to remove around 5 grafts(that produced 5 cm long hairs under the skin), that where ingrown, some of them where placed upside down... the clinic has never seen such "work" before. it was not easy to remove all of them without to much butcher work. each wrong graft created a huge bump and some scarring tissue. the removed hairs where between 2 and 4 cm long.. there are still some there, that where not possible to remove that that moment.

              some grafts contained 10 hairs regarding the clinic, probably injected the grafts with the choi pen twice in the same place.

              how is it possible to implant a graft upside down would you wonder?

              they used this choi pen, and injected the grafts to deep upside down.

              the skin is currently inflamed and has some cystic fibrosis structure, which makes graft survival fur futre ht's harder.


              I'm currently trying to find a solution to remove the other 5-6 leftover bad grafts, without to much butchering and grafts lost around the bad grafts.

              Not sure what the best method is yet, maybe contacting a dermatologist?

              the clinic advised me to come other time back to remove the left over graft, once its easier to spot them(once the bumps get bigger).


              I hope that there is some solution, other than ultrasound, to detect the exact location of the bad grafts, and then remove them. Any help is appreciated.


              my advice for the people, contact a professional clinic, probably some of the respected IAHRS doctors, if you want a good hairtransplant.

              Boldy

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #8
                Originally posted by Boldy
                I'm currently having allot of regret that i have done my fue(800 grafts) there..

                aside from the artistic skills, serum etc,

                I'm still having inflammation at the hairline where the grafts are placed at nigams clinic 9 months ago, so i contacted a clinic to look at it. this weekend they where able to remove around 5 grafts(that produced 5 cm long hairs under the skin), that where ingrown, some of them where placed upside down... the clinic has never seen such "work" before. it was not easy to remove all of them without to much butcher work. each wrong graft created a huge bump and some scarring tissue. the removed hairs where between 2 and 4 cm long.. there are still some there, that where not possible to remove that that moment.

                some grafts contained 10 hairs regarding the clinic, probably injected the grafts with the choi pen twice in the same place.

                how is it possible to implant a graft upside down would you wonder?

                they used this choi pen, and injected the grafts to deep upside down.

                the skin is currently inflamed and has some cystic fibrosis structure, which makes graft survival fur futre ht's harder.


                I'm currently trying to find a solution to remove the other 5-6 leftover bad grafts, without to much butchering and grafts lost around the bad grafts.

                Not sure what the best method is yet, maybe contacting a dermatologist?

                the clinic advised me to come other time back to remove the left over graft, once its easier to spot them(once the bumps get bigger).


                I hope that there is some solution, other than ultrasound, to detect the exact location of the bad grafts, and then remove them. Any help is appreciated.


                my advice for the people, contact a professional clinic, probably some of the respected IHRS doctors, if you want a good hairtransplant.

                Boldy
                My god... Absolutely everything went wrong with your procedure. I wonder too about any failed grafts. :/

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  #9
                  That's some serious scary stuff Boldy, hairs growing inwards up to 5 cm and causing infections ... Hopefully a dermatalogist can help you to remove them without messing up your skin too much.

                  So Nigam butchered up all of his patients with his Frankenstein method. Why this guy is not in jail is really beyond me .. People should sue him big time.

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                  • fred970
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 922

                    #10
                    What's sad is that he will most likely get away with it, and even continue his practice.

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                    • caddarik79
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 495

                      #11
                      hey Arashi, long time I did not read you... how are you doin? what is your plan for hair back?

                      no other news from Amsterdam and Maastricht?

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                      • JJJJrS
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 638

                        #12
                        It was pretty obvious to me from the beginning that Nigam was a complete fraud but this is even worse than I could imagine . Hopefully those articles in India about him facing some possible prison time end up being true.

                        Although I doubt this will be the case, I hope this ends up being a warning to some not to get carried away with the newest, unproven treatment. You should be extremely cautious before getting an invasive surgical procedure or ingesting/rubbing some chemical.

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                        • Boldy
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 287

                          #13
                          I have contacted some hospitals with one of the top dermatologist here, and none really know how to efficiently localize the follicles and remove them. They advised me to visit a good hair transplant clinic and let them do the butchering (exactly localizing the follicles is a blind procedure with allot butchering). Their suggestion was hair laser, which would destroy the other grafts as well so its a no go..

                          best case scenario is if the grafts could be located with some kind of ultra sound, but this requires a special probe I think?

                          advice for nigam: stop using the choi implanters if you don't know what you are doing. injecting the grafts to deep, or upside down, ain't fun! I'm still reaching for a solution to get rid of this mess!

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                          • cocacola
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 222

                            #14
                            I feel so sorry for you man! Nigam must answer for what he has done

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                            • joachim
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 559

                              #15
                              choi implanters are the worse anyway. they are only used by lazy surgeons who want to speed up the procedure, at the cost of the patient and follicle survival.
                              choi implanters treat the follicle relatively harshly, therefore graft survival is worse. and the needle diameter is about 0.2 to 0.3 mm bigger than standard needles which creates much more trauma. a 0.8mm hole is much worse than 0.6mm.

                              i remember a youtube video where a surgeon is proudly showing how he is implanting 3000 or so grafts in 1 hour, with several choi implanters which are loaded by his assistants.
                              that's about 1 second per graft. i think it's clear that this won't lead to a good cosmetic result.

                              i think there's not one well respected surgeon who is working with choi implanters. those with good results are doing the slits and placement of the graft only manually, which of course takes more time.

                              everybody who is considering a hair transplant should not go for a treatment if the surgeon is using choi implanters. but that's only my opinion.

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