A letter to members& rebutt to arashi/didi@drnigam

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  • crafter
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 239

    #61
    Got this reply from Dr Mwamba this morning

    "Right now , we are reviewing Dr Nigam's protocols and we are designing the study protocol .There is parameters to follow ( such as hair density , hair caliber ,Cross section trichometry , before and after pictures , number of grafts ,...).Dr Nigam had his own protocol of surgery ;we have our own .We should study how we can put everything together so there is a way to analyse the data objectively .
    We have also to be aware of intellectual properties about protocols and it should be covered so everybody can be open in the process.While lawyers and administratifs staff are putting all of that together , we are working on establishing protocols .
    Then we will start the second phase : selection of candidate with specific criteria .
    We are planning to start in January if we do not find any delay with paper work .
    From previous experiences , we know it takes about 3 months to start noticing some changes when you do hair transplant .At 6 months , most of the time results start to talk by themselves and it takes about 1 year for full result .
    If we start in January , our first observations will be available around April . and by July, we will start to see some evidence and by December , the first conclusions .As we can not rely on one or two patients ,we will keep selecting patients from January to June and adjust our protocol as we go .Therefore , the conclusion of this study will be made around June 2015 and we can objectively say if the technique is viable or not .
    Of course as we progress , we may find new ideas , and hopefully all of this will bring us one step forward in our quest to resolve hair loss and provide cutting edge technique and great ,natural and undetectable results .
    I will be in India at the end of this month to hopefully finish our paperwork and see how we will move from there .
    In the meanwhile , let's hope and pray for the best to come ..."

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      #62
      I just got mail from mr Nigam. He mailed me "Kindly find below the official links of my Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of surgery"

      But didnt provide any links at all, nor did he send me any certificate, which I find highly suspicious. We can only ASSUME he really does have at least a bachelor. But even if that would be true, he doesn't have a Medical Degree and therefore is not allowed to perform any kind of surgery at all.

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        #63
        Hahaha and now he emails me that a lot of top doctors only have bachelor degrees and he mentions the name of "Dr Arvind Poswal" which I just looked up is ... an Indian guy too. Hehe. Furthermore he mentions "Bessam farjo practicing in UK is also MBBS", haven't checked him out yet.

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        • Winston
          Moderator
          • Mar 2009
          • 929

          #64
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          • greatjob!
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 909

            #65
            Originally posted by Arashi
            Hahaha and now he emails me that a lot of top doctors only have bachelor degrees and he mentions the name of "Dr Arvind Poswal" which I just looked up is ... an Indian guy too. Hehe. Furthermore he mentions "Bessam farjo practicing in UK is also MBBS", haven't checked him out yet.
            I'm actually pretty sure that a MBBS degree is a medical degree in countries following the traditional UK model. Unlike the U.S. where you get an undergrad degree and then go on to med school, the MBBS is a kind of all in one. There really aren't any distinctions between bachelor or masters/doctoral in these systems, you just jump right into specialization. It is usually 6 years apposed to the 8 years it would take in the US. It's pretty common in a lot of countries like India and Australia. I think as far as the prestige hierarchy goes an MD is more desirable, but a MBBS makes you a doctor nonetheless.

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            • Arashi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3888

              #66
              Originally posted by greatjob!
              I'm actually pretty sure that a MBBS degree is a medical degree in countries following the traditional UK model. Unlike the U.S. where you get an undergrad degree and then go on to med school, the MBBS is a kind of all in one. There really aren't any distinctions between bachelor or masters/doctoral in these systems, you just jump right into specialization. It is usually 6 years apposed to the 8 years it would take in the US. It's pretty common in a lot of countries like India and Australia. I think as far as the prestige hierarchy goes an MD is more desirable, but a MBBS makes you a doctor nonetheless.
              I just emailed dr Anjali to explain herself when she said Nigam didnt have the right certificates to perform hair surgery. We'll see what she comes up with then (if she replies of course).

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              • greatjob!
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 909

                #67
                Originally posted by Arashi
                I just emailed dr Anjali to explain herself when she said Nigam didnt have the right certificates to perform hair surgery. We'll see what she comes up with then (if she replies of course).
                yeah if she doesn't maybe Desmond can clear up the differences between MD and MBBS since I think he is from Australia.

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                • gc83uk
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1339

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Arashi
                  Hahaha and now he emails me that a lot of top doctors only have bachelor degrees and he mentions the name of "Dr Arvind Poswal" which I just looked up is ... an Indian guy too. Hehe. Furthermore he mentions "Bessam farjo practicing in UK is also MBBS", haven't checked him out yet.
                  Bessam farjo is one the most well known hair transplant surgeons in the UK. I have met him a couple of times, he is the guy that suggested a scalp reduction for me in 2011. Pretty sure he is a proper Dr though! Whenever hair transplants are discussed in the media or via BBC he is never shy to voice his opinion.

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                  • greatjob!
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 909

                    #69
                    Originally posted by gc83uk
                    Bessam farjo is one the most well known hair transplant surgeons in the UK. I have met him a couple of times, he is the guy that suggested a scalp reduction for me in 2011. Pretty sure he is a proper Dr though! Whenever hair transplants are discussed in the media or via BBC he is never shy to voice his opinion.
                    Yeah he has been one of the only decent docs in the UK for a long time. His transplants are a little too conservative and sparse for my taste for the most part, but he is ethical and not a hack as far as I know.

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                    • crafter
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 239

                      #70
                      Originally posted by greatjob!
                      Yeah he has been one of the only decent docs in the UK for a long time. His transplants are a little too conservative and sparse for my taste for the most part, but he is ethical and not a hack as far as I know.
                      His wiki page says he woked for the NHS and regulations are very strict here in Britain so im sure he is legit. He seems very genuine too, doesn't sell lots of unproven stuff on his website andd won't normally do hts for under 25s because of risk of further progressn.

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                      • gc83uk
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1339

                        #71
                        Originally posted by greatjob!
                        Yeah he has been one of the only decent docs in the UK for a long time. His transplants are a little too conservative and sparse for my taste for the most part, but he is ethical and not a hack as far as I know.
                        Agreed, he also put quite a bit of effort into Intercytex HM, but we all know how that ended Intercytex

                        The only disappointment for me was the suggestion of a scalp reduction followed by a hair transplant. Something I would never consider, but he was an honest decent Dr.

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                        • lilpauly
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1084

                          #72
                          I just don't get why would some say he was a dr when he wasn't ? I have reason to believe dr nigam is dr!

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                          • gc83uk
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1339

                            #73
                            Originally posted by lilpauly
                            I just don't get why would some say he was a dr when he wasn't ? I have reason to believe dr nigam is dr!
                            Dr Nigam probably is a Dr of some sort, that is my opinion. I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of that with Arashi's detective work in the coming days.

                            However you can't surely be that naive as to wonder why someone would claim to be a Dr when they're not? It's all about the money pal.

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                            • lilpauly
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1084

                              #74
                              Originally posted by gc83uk
                              Dr Nigam probably is a Dr of some sort, that is my opinion. I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of that with Arashi's detective work in the coming days.

                              However you can't surely be that naive as to wonder why someone would claim to be a Dr when they're not? It's all about the money pal.
                              Yes man but it can be proven easy if he's not ,

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                #75
                                Originally posted by lilpauly
                                Yes man but it can be proven easy if he's not ,
                                Guys it was already concluded that according to that Indian database Nigam has a bachelor degree and that's enough in India to perform surgery. As of sunday morning Nigam promised me to send his certificates, he still hasn't done that, not sure what to think of that, I've sent him several reminders. I've also sent an email today to Dr Anjali, she was the one who claimed in an Indian newspaper that Nigam didn't have the right papers to perform surgery. I asked her to clarify.

                                I'll update once I have more info. But at the moment it seems that he is at least allowed to operate. Of course there are still a zillion other issue's, but at least he doesn't seem to be performing surgery illegally.

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