What happened to Nigam then?

[25 going on 65]

+ impotence
+ lowered libido
+ weaker erections
+ dissatisfied sexual partner
+ daily hassle of taking the pill

Finasteride has run its course, shit shouldn't be sold anymore, time for superior methods to use against baldness.

Rate of noticeable sides seems less than 10% (around 80% for propeciahelp browsers)

Of course it should still be sold. It is an effective MPB treatment if you start early. The problem is most people do not start until they are NW3-4, or like a strongly diffuse NW1.5-2. If I could go back I would start fin or dut at NW1
Popping a pill to not lose hair > transplants/topicals/mixing stuff up in your bathroom.
High school classes should teach all male students about MPB, what to look for, and to eat 5-ar inhibs for breakfast at the 1st signs. This is literally more important for males to know than half of what is taught in school (as far as having a good life)

[DepressedByHairLoss]

+ impotence
+ lowered libido
+ weaker erections
+ dissatisfied sexual partner
+ daily hassle of taking the pill

Finasteride has run its course, shit shouldn't be sold anymore, time for superior methods to use against baldness.

I totally agree with you guys. It just seems like common sense to me. Monkeying around with your hormones is just simply not going to have minimal side effects. I'm not sure that it shouldn't be sold anymore, it definitely carries side effects that come with it. I just cannot stand when people say to other people with finasteride side effects: "it's all in your mind. It's psychosomatic". We know our bodies better than anyone else and we know when something is wrong. Finasteride has absolutely run its course and we are in such desperate need of better treatments.

[hellouser]

Rate of noticeable sides seems less than 10% (around 80% for propeciahelp browsers)

Of course it should still be sold. It is an effective MPB treatment if you start early. The problem is most people do not start until they are NW3-4, or like a strongly diffuse NW1.5-2. If I could go back I would start fin or dut at NW1
Popping a pill to not lose hair > transplants/topicals/mixing stuff up in your bathroom.
High school classes should teach all male students about MPB, what to look for, and to eat 5-ar inhibs for breakfast at the 1st signs. This is literally more important for males to know than half of what is taught in school (as far as having a good life)

*SHOULD* is the key word. We're long overdue for a superior treatment. If you want to continue taking finasteride, go right ahead. When superior treatments come into play, will you still take Fin? You know, the cynical part of me wishes that MORE men would take finasteride if only to expose its shitty efficacy (it really only slows down hair loss for most guys) and its very real and dangerous side effects in greater numbers... THAT way, we wouldnt have people still saying 'Oh, but finasteride is great! I dont see why we should slam it'

We should slam finasteride. 20 years and men are still going bald even with finasteride. What does that tell you? Complacency has NO place in this forum and its a recurring theme with far too many members here. You guys may as well get off the forum and call it a day if you think finasteride is here to save us.

[ccmethinning]

*SHOULD* is the key word. We're long overdue for a superior treatment. If you want to continue taking finasteride, go right ahead. When superior treatments come into play, will you still take Fin? You know, the cynical part of me wishes that MORE men would take finasteride if only to expose its shitty efficacy (it really only slows down hair loss for most guys) and its very real and dangerous side effects in greater numbers... THAT way, we wouldnt have people still saying 'Oh, but finasteride is great! I dont see why we should slam it'

We should slam finasteride. 20 years and men are still going bald even with finasteride. What does that tell you? Complacency has NO place in this forum and its a recurring theme with far too many members here. You guys may as well get off the forum and call it a day if you think finasteride is here to save us.

Do you have any evidence for any of your claims about the supposed inefficacy of finasteride?

[25 going on 65]

Complacency has NO place in this forum and its a recurring theme with far too many members here. You guys may as well get off the forum and call it a day if you think finasteride is here to save us.

Fin works well. Dut works better. If you are not on 1 of these (regardless what else you use), you are complacent about hair loss
Sure we need better treatments. We will not get them by banning the best ones we have RIGHT NOW

[clandestine]

Fin works well. Dut works better. If you are not on 1 of these (regardless what else you use), you are complacent about hair loss

I like you 25goingon65, you're reasonable.

But this is an ignorant statement. Very much ignorant.
You've completely undermined those of us who have tried fin/dut but are unable to use due to severe sides experienced.

Please be more considerate; I trust you understand we're not unwilling, but unable. Not complacent, but having exhausted all option.

[hellouser]

Do you have any evidence for any of your claims about the supposed inefficacy of finasteride?

Uh... this forum? I've seen a number of guys that said Fin had no effect on their hair loss. Some have said efficacy dropped after a certain period of time.

[hellouser]

Fin works well. Dut works better. If you are not on 1 of these (regardless what else you use), you are complacent about hair loss
Sure we need better treatments. We will not get them by banning the best ones we have RIGHT NOW

That is an absolutely ridiculous argument. Go support Finasteride elsewhere. This forum category is about superior alternatives, not dated drugs from 20 years ago. It seems like you dont care to move forward. Again, why are you even here if you give finasteride so much praise?

[bananana]

off topic. again.

[HARIRI]

Screw Finaterside Guys, This thread is about Nigam, Mwamba & Hair doubling technique.

[25 going on 65]

I like you 25goingon65, you're reasonable.

But this is an ignorant statement. Very much ignorant.
You've completely undermined those of us who have tried fin/dut but are unable to use due to severe sides experienced.

Please be more considerate; I trust you understand we're not unwilling, but unable. Not complacent, but having exhausted all option.

This is true. I was thinking of the guys who care enough about hair loss to be on forums, but not enough to take 5-ar inhibs even though they can do it without sides.
Did not mean to criticize people who tried, but got sides. Should have used different wording

That is an absolutely ridiculous argument.

Only because of what clandestine pointed out. if you do not take oral 5-ar's by choice (as opposed to being someone who cannot because of sides), how seriously do you really take hair loss?

Go support Finasteride elsewhere. This forum category is about superior alternatives, not dated drugs from 20 years ago. It seems like you dont care to move forward. Again, why are you even here if you give finasteride so much praise?

1- I was not the one who brought up fin in this thread
2- The only thing that makes fin dated is dutasteride. There is still nothing else that competes with these drugs' body of evidence for reliably/consistently treating MPB (conveniently too)
3- If I started meds 1-2 years earlier, I might not have this acct. I have more hair now than I did 4 years ago despite I started aggressively thinning in my early 20s. Do you realize where I would be without meds? Probably a diffuse NW3a at best
Another example....Spencer IS a NW3a. Only after he started balding 1/4 century ago. He would be NW6-7 by now w/o meds.
I would love better regrowth treatments, but the people saying fin/dut should not be sold are making no sense. For many, these drugs can make the difference between going NW4+ in their 20s vs staying <NW2 past age 30