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  • LT56
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 89

    News Directly from Dr. Gho

    Hey guys,
    I had my procedure yesterday with Dr. Gho. Since I had a chance to speak with him about new developments, here they are:

    I'm going from memory and interpretation here:

    HST II:
    This will be coming out, according to Dr. Gho, ''very soon''. The benefits are that it is much less invasive and healing time is greatly accelerated.

    HSI:
    I asked Dr. Gho about this and he said it looks very promising. There is enthusiasm and confidence in his voice about it. I asked if they multiply the stemcells and he said yes, but it's not always necessary. What they're working on is getting the protocol right (I think) because if one injects too many stemcells it actually produces too much hair and thus the results end up looking like small clumps like a doll's head. I asked of course about timelines and he said, ''Well, I'm a very patient man.'' I asked more and he said, ''Well, I don't mean decades, but it will be a few years yet''. They also have to design and build instruments (maybe there's a job for us engineers...). I didn't want to pester too much.

    Other news: I asked where the next office will be opened and he said he's focusing on Europe and Asia at the moment, although he's open to the clinics who have been inquiring in North America, but they're going through a recession right now. Also, he wants to open an academy for ongoing research and development.
    My impression of him is one of honesty, great energy and ''to hell with what other people think, I know my procedures work''.
  • Hair123
    Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 32

    #2
    Originally posted by LT56
    Hey guys,
    I had my procedure yesterday with Dr. Gho. Since I had a chance to speak with him about new developments, here they are:

    I'm going from memory and interpretation here:

    HST II:
    This will be coming out, according to Dr. Gho, ''very soon''. The benefits are that it is much less invasive and healing time is greatly accelerated.

    HSI:
    I asked Dr. Gho about this and he said it looks very promising. There is enthusiasm and confidence in his voice about it. I asked if they multiply the stemcells and he said yes, but it's not always necessary. What they're working on is getting the protocol right (I think) because if one injects too many stemcells it actually produces too much hair and thus the results end up looking like small clumps like a doll's head. I asked of course about timelines and he said, ''Well, I'm a very patient man.'' I asked more and he said, ''Well, I don't mean decades, but it will be a few years yet''. They also have to design and build instruments (maybe there's a job for us engineers...). I didn't want to pester too much.

    Other news: I asked where the next office will be opened and he said he's focusing on Europe and Asia at the moment, although he's open to the clinics who have been inquiring in North America, but they're going through a recession right now. Also, he wants to open an academy for ongoing research and development.
    My impression of him is one of honesty, great energy and ''to hell with what other people think, I know my procedures work''.
    Good info, thanks LT!

    Did he hint about anything related to the yield we could expect with HST 2.0?

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    • LT56
      Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 89

      #3
      Originally posted by Hair123
      Good info, thanks LT!

      Did he hint about anything related to the yield we could expect with HST 2.0?
      Yeah, the yield is the same as normal HST, i.e. there's no improvement in yield. The improvement is that, with extracting and re-injecting stemcells, it is much less invasive and thus healing time is essentially zero. He said it is a ''precursor to HSI''.

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      • caddarik79
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 495

        #4
        what would be HST 2.0? I don't get it...

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #5
          Originally posted by LT56
          HST II:
          This will be coming out, according to Dr. Gho, ''very soon''. The benefits are that it is much less invasive and healing time is greatly accelerated.
          Any news if HST will bring forth increased hair counts? Say, 2 follicles in recipient from 1 follicle in donor?

          HSI:
          I asked Dr. Gho about this and he said it looks very promising. There is enthusiasm and confidence in his voice about it. I asked if they multiply the stemcells and he said yes, but it's not always necessary. What they're working on is getting the protocol right (I think) because if one injects too many stemcells it actually produces too much hair and thus the results end up looking like small clumps like a doll's head. I asked of course about timelines and he said, ''Well, I'm a very patient man.'' I asked more and he said, ''Well, I don't mean decades, but it will be a few years yet''. They also have to design and build instruments (maybe there's a job for us engineers...). I didn't want to pester too much.
          THIS is huge. But, I wanna know if he's already tried it on humans. Any evidence of it working?

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          • Californication
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 134

            #6
            Originally posted by hellouser
            Any news if HST will bring forth increased hair counts? Say, 2 follicles in recipient from 1 follicle in donor?




            Originally posted by LT56
            Yeah, the yield is the same as normal HST, i.e. there's no improvement in yield.
            Great news though, the more people working on this the better.

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            • LT56
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 89

              #7
              Originally posted by caddarik79
              what would be HST 2.0? I don't get it...
              I think it's the same type of treatment, but they take a smaller piece of the stemcells.

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              • LT56
                Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 89

                #8
                Originally posted by hellouser
                Any news if HST will bring forth increased hair counts? Say, 2 follicles in recipient from 1 follicle in donor?



                THIS is huge. But, I wanna know if he's already tried it on humans. Any evidence of it working?
                I assume he tried it on humans, it didn't occur to me that he might of meant trying it on animals. He said he just did an internal presentation on developments with HSI and told me that it works very well, it's a matter now of getting it so the correct amount of hair grows, because if one injects too many stemcells the hair grows too much, like clumps on a doll's head.

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                • caddarik79
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 495

                  #9
                  Ok but on which purpose? better regen? 100% regen?

                  I think breaktrough might again come from the Netherland.
                  They have few big steps advance already, and it is clearly mentioned on their website that they are busy with Hair Multiplication and trying to bring it on the market but need to perfect it....

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                  • caddarik79
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 495

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LT56
                    I assume he tried it on humans, it didn't occur to me that he might of meant trying it on animals. He said he just did an internal presentation on developments with HSI and told me that it works very well, it's a matter now of getting it so the correct amount of hair grows, because if one injects too many stemcells the hair grows too much, like clumps on a doll's head.

                    It's excellent news, I hope that a guy like GC who is very usefull and helpfull here will bridge it now with HST, which is obviously the case and will be able to enjoy new tech from Gho in a few years to have an excellent NW1 back ;-)

                    I hope the same for us all.

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                    • LT56
                      Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 89

                      #11
                      Originally posted by caddarik79
                      Ok but on which purpose? better regen? 100% regen?

                      I think breaktrough might again come from the Netherland.
                      They have few big steps advance already, and it is clearly mentioned on their website that they are busy with Hair Multiplication and trying to bring it on the market but need to perfect it....
                      Yeah, that's pretty much it; better regeneration and they're trying to perfect it.

                      What surprised me, was that he said he was open to the clinics in North America using the technology. It sounded like he would license the technology to them.

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                      • LT56
                        Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 89

                        #12
                        The other exciting thing is the Hair Science Academy he's opening.

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                        • caddarik79
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 495

                          #13
                          it is very exciting...

                          Was it your first HST? how many grafts? what is your Norwood?

                          I think now, the smartest, is to try to be patient... those who can not stand their HL going away should do one HST to frame... then enjoy the result for one or two years until Gho offers even better.

                          Imagine, Joling who got three and is quite OK, he can easily enjoy another year or two with his actual result, and later, get even better density with new technics.

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                          • gc83uk
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1339

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LT56
                            Hey guys,
                            I had my procedure yesterday with Dr. Gho. Since I had a chance to speak with him about new developments, here they are:

                            I'm going from memory and interpretation here:

                            HST II:
                            This will be coming out, according to Dr. Gho, ''very soon''. The benefits are that it is much less invasive and healing time is greatly accelerated.

                            HSI:
                            I asked Dr. Gho about this and he said it looks very promising. There is enthusiasm and confidence in his voice about it. I asked if they multiply the stemcells and he said yes, but it's not always necessary. What they're working on is getting the protocol right (I think) because if one injects too many stemcells it actually produces too much hair and thus the results end up looking like small clumps like a doll's head. I asked of course about timelines and he said, ''Well, I'm a very patient man.'' I asked more and he said, ''Well, I don't mean decades, but it will be a few years yet''. They also have to design and build instruments (maybe there's a job for us engineers...). I didn't want to pester too much.

                            Other news: I asked where the next office will be opened and he said he's focusing on Europe and Asia at the moment, although he's open to the clinics who have been inquiring in North America, but they're going through a recession right now. Also, he wants to open an academy for ongoing research and development.
                            My impression of him is one of honesty, great energy and ''to hell with what other people think, I know my procedures work''.
                            Correct me if you think I'm wrong, but I feel you're getting mixed up between HSI and HST 2.0

                            Basically HSI is the hair stem cell injection method, straight from the hasci site: "Up to the removal of the hair stem cells to be transplanted, the technique is the same as HST. The major difference lies in the implantation. With HST, the stem cells are ‘planted’ in tiny holes made with a needle. With Hair Stem Cell Injection® the stem cells are injected directly into the skin without prepared holes."

                            They have been doing this HSI on eyebrows etc already, there is even a Famous woman on one of the hasci videos having it done.

                            I see HSI as HST 2.0. It's a natural HST development.

                            But what you have called HSI is referred to as HM on the hasci website since 1996. It mentions that they believe they can already get 20% improvement (possibly by injecting your stemcells, no idea) however the 20% improvement might be patchy and unsightly. And that's where there upto with it.

                            I don't personally believe Gho has anything up his sleeve just yet, other than HSI, which is just an improved version of HST.

                            HM is probably still years away, maybe 2020.

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                            • caddarik79
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 495

                              #15
                              I gues HSI will be exactly for candidates like you GC...
                              people who got numerous HST and want a higher density, then, ask for the Injection, they say on the website taht it allows more precision and more density.

                              HM, if Gho says no decades but a few years away, I would expect 3 years from now the most optimistic and 5 years the most realistic and 7 years if we are not lucky!!!

                              Science grows really fast now, competition from other Doctors or labs might motivate Gho in accelerating the reserach for the real cure!!!


                              Am just wondering if people like us who got transplanted (HST) will be eligible for HM procedure cinsisting in injecting stem cells to grow bunches of hairs...
                              how can you control if they will not push or be blocked by your transplanted hairs and create issues on your scalp.

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