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  • JDW
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 105

    #76
    Excellent, thanks for the update

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    • didi
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1360

      #77
      In my opinion Thane should go for Invitro doubling instead of denovo, he simply cant afford to lose 40% of donor.

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      • NeedHairASAP
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1408

        #78
        There is no way he can make thane nw1, maybe nw3.

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          #79
          Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
          There is no way he can make thane nw1, maybe nw3.
          Well that's the whole idea. With traditional FUE he can't do much for this guy. But if his technique really works as advertised, nothing should stop him from giving this guy 15k grafts and making him a NW1.

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          • locke999
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 158

            #80
            Originally posted by didi
            In my opinion Thane should go for Invitro doubling instead of denovo, he simply cant afford to lose 40% of donor.
            He can't afford 40%? He's almost completely bald, what does it matter if he loses anymore. On the other, if it works then he gets all his hair back.

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            • NeedHairASAP
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 1408

              #81
              Originally posted by Arashi
              Well that's the whole idea. With traditional FUE he can't do much for this guy. But if his technique really works as advertised, nothing should stop him from giving this guy 15k grafts and making him a NW1.
              he needs more than 15k to be nw1

              15k would give him a sparse nw2-3 or an extremely (emphasis on extremely) sparse nw1... at like 20 per cm (rather than the needed 50-60)

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #82
                Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                he needs more than 15k to be nw1

                15k would give him a sparse nw2-3 or an extremely (emphasis on extremely) sparse nw1... at like 20 per cm (rather than the needed 50-60)
                He's got probably around 300 cm2 bald space on his head. So 15k grafts would give him 50 grafts/cm2 which is enough (at least at 2.5 hairs/graft). Usually the norm is that 30 graft/cm2 can give the illusion of a full head of hair and 50 per cm2 is passed the illusion stage at 2.5 hairs/graft of course.

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                • didi
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1360

                  #83
                  Dr Mwamba on HRN

                  "I am with you Crafter ,
                  I mentioned one thing in my talk : sometimes , things are very simple and we , as expert in the field , we push our mind far away to get a solution. And it takes just the insight of a novice to point out to the right direction .

                  Now there is a long way to prove this concept ( which for me makes a lot of sense ) .We need hard work , dedication and clear protocols that will be presented to our peers .Their insight and knowledge may also ease or speed up research toward a solution for our patients "




                  Long way? I don't get it, either it works or it does not,

                  50 graft test can prove this easily? Am I missing something here

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                  • 534623
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1854

                    #84
                    Originally posted by didi

                    Long way? I don't get it, either it works or it does not,

                    50 graft test can prove this easily? Am I missing something here
                    Around 5-10 years or so. But don't worry, you're still young with lots of time.

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      #85
                      Of course its a long way off... the more time you spend in hair loss research the more you realise what an impossible task curing it really is... its like trying to rebuild New York using lego blocks... but you have to rebuild 20,000 New Yorks... just like you need 20,000 follicles to get decent coverage.

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        #86
                        Originally posted by didi
                        Dr Mwamba on HRN

                        "I am with you Crafter ,
                        I mentioned one thing in my talk : sometimes , things are very simple and we , as expert in the field , we push our mind far away to get a solution. And it takes just the insight of a novice to point out to the right direction .

                        Now there is a long way to prove this concept ( which for me makes a lot of sense ) .We need hard work , dedication and clear protocols that will be presented to our peers .Their insight and knowledge may also ease or speed up research toward a solution for our patients "




                        Long way? I don't get it, either it works or it does not,

                        50 graft test can prove this easily? Am I missing something here
                        Agreed, this sounds like he's not that confident at all ...

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                        • garethbale
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 603

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Arashi
                          Agreed, this sounds like he's not that confident at all ...
                          He's probably just erring on the side of caution. It would seem strange for him to publicly state that this would be a game changer otherwise.

                          I wonder if anyone wants to contact him directly about it. I'd be willing, though I will probably not get a response from him, or just get one from some admin person

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                          • didi
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1360

                            #88
                            Why every doctor struggles to prove HM???

                            Dr Mwamba makes it sound as if its so hard to prove whether it works or not, that is the easiest part...good 'ol 50 graft test will do, test everybody loves to avoid

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              #89
                              Originally posted by didi
                              Why every doctor struggles to prove HM???

                              Dr Mwamba makes it sound as if its so hard to prove whether it works or not, that is the easiest part...good 'ol 50 graft test will do, test everybody loves to avoid
                              Exactly. Proving it is trivial.

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                              • gc83uk
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1339

                                #90
                                This isn't a big deal atm. Just wait for Nigam to do the business with Thane. In a few months we'll know from Thane if this is working or not.

                                By this point Mwamba will probably know more. I would still put pressure on him to do a public 50 graft test.

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