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  • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 638

    can gho do 3k or not?

    can he or its been advertised wrongly? also is the option to place both bisected grafts at the recipient?


    will the prices ever be for humans?

    and when will he release info on hst 2.0?

    very interesting quastions i believe for us all
  • Arashi
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 3888

    #2
    Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
    can he or its been advertised wrongly? also is the option to place both bisected grafts at the recipient?


    will the prices ever be for humans?

    and when will he release info on hst 2.0?

    very interesting quastions i believe for us all
    Gho doesn't split in vitro so no placing both in recipient. I doubt he'll change his prices. Nobody knows about hst 2.0 if it will ever become reality.

    And regarding 3k graft: I doubt anyone will get more than 2k

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      #3
      But really the most important question right now is: does it even work ? So let's focus on the gc83uk case !

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      • caddarik79
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 495

        #4
        I hope it does and I'dlike to get finally confirmed about the 85% regen, because right now, forum members put shit in my head wit all their speculations...

        If 85% regen is sure, it's a 75% cure... and I will bridge... if it's not, I might temporise it until something better come!!!

        Shitty balding life

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          #5
          Originally posted by caddarik79
          I hope it does and I'dlike to get finally confirmed about the 85% regen, because right now, forum members put shit in my head wit all their speculations...

          If 85% regen is sure, it's a 75% cure... and I will bridge... if it's not, I might temporise it until something better come!!!

          Shitty balding life
          If regen is 60% or higher, I'm going to get my next HST as soon as possible. Otherwise I'm going to wait. It seems the time we need to bridge might be a lot longer than we previously expected ... Histogen, Aderans, Follica, Replicel, they're all not looking too good anymore ..

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            #6
            Originally posted by Arashi
            If regen is 60% or higher, I'm going to get my next HST as soon as possible. Otherwise I'm going to wait. It seems the time we need to bridge might be a lot longer than we previously expected ... Histogen, Aderans, Follica, Replicel, they're all not looking too good anymore ..
            Um, Replicel is looking better than we though with an expected 2015 release date in Asia.

            Aderans is finished until they get funding.

            Follica is apparently in Phase IIa trials and also apparently has generated new hair follicles via wounding theory (this should be attempted by the community to skirt around and figure out by OURSELVES)

            Histogen isn't deserving of criticism as we don't know where they stand however we DO know they're still moving forward.

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            • Arashi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3888

              #7
              Originally posted by hellouser
              Um, Replicel is looking better than we though with an expected 2015 release date in Asia.

              Aderans is finished until they get funding.

              Follica is apparently in Phase IIa trials and also apparently has generated new hair follicles via wounding theory (this should be attempted by the community to skirt around and figure out by OURSELVES)

              Histogen isn't deserving of criticism as we don't know where they stand however we DO know they're still moving forward.
              Replicel's stock quote hovers around the lowest point in 2 years, so at least the stock market seems to disagree with you. If you're certain about Replicel, there's a lot of money to be made But generally the market tends to be right. Histogen's results were totally unimpressive. Aderans is indeed done. And Follica we don't know much about. The dermarolling community trial is interesting though. But all in all, I don't have much hope for something in the next 5 years ...

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              • didi
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1360

                #8
                Nigams has slim chance of turning this around...I give him 10% chance of succeeding in doubling


                Pilofocus might be the next big thing

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                • cocacola
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 222

                  #9
                  Everyday im impressed by the speculation on this forum. This question has been asked a gazillion of times. What i heard from deborah is that 3000 was the biggest ever. Now, there are like at least 15 people on forums that had hst and most are between 1200-1800. Dont expect to have more than that unless you make some sort of agreement with hasci to go for more by jeopardizing the "potential" regeneration.

                  Didi can you explain me how you estimate 10% nigam succes rate. Do you build logistic regression models or you flip coins?

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    #10
                    Originally posted by didi
                    Nigams has slim chance of turning this around...I give him 10% chance of succeeding in doubling
                    It might work who knows. All I know is that Nigams is as clueless in that regard as we are. He's just experimenting and testing. It might work, it might not work. But I hate the way he's misleading people. If he'd just be fair and say "Look people I'm doing some experimental stuff here. It might work it might not, but at least I'm trying", then I'd have a lot of respect for him. But all that fakery with photoshopped images, unmatching before after photo's, stolen photo's and what's more makes him look like an ordinary conman.

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                    • gc83uk
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1339

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      It might work who knows. All I know is that Nigams is as clueless in that regard as we are. He's just experimenting and testing. It might work, it might not work. But I hate the way he's misleading people. If he'd just be fair and say "Look people I'm doing some experimental stuff here. It might work it might not, but at least I'm trying", then I'd have a lot of respect for him. But all that fakery with photoshopped images, unmatching before after photo's, stolen photo's and what's more makes him look like an ordinary conman.
                      Just in case you were wondering mate, I've decided to postpone the head shaving and photos until Sunday 2nd Sept. I've moved a few things around, so I'll have more time starting the 2nd and less social events where I don't have to sport a grade 0.

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        #12
                        Originally posted by gc83uk
                        Just in case you were wondering mate, I've decided to postpone the head shaving and photos until Sunday 2nd Sept. I've moved a few things around, so I'll have more time starting the 2nd and less social events where I don't have to sport a grade 0.
                        Perfect ! Thanks for the update !

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Arashi
                          Replicel's stock quote hovers around the lowest point in 2 years, so at least the stock market seems to disagree with you. If you're certain about Replicel, there's a lot of money to be made But generally the market tends to be right. Histogen's results were totally unimpressive. Aderans is indeed done. And Follica we don't know much about. The dermarolling community trial is interesting though. But all in all, I don't have much hope for something in the next 5 years ...
                          The problem isn't with the researchers and biotech companies either.

                          ITS OUR FAULT.

                          We, as a hair loss community, have been complacent. We've allowed 20 years to go by along with our hair that finasteride has been on the market, with not a single superior alternative. NOT ONE.

                          And what are we doing today? Nothing. What's going to be done by us tomorrow? Nothing.

                          It's amazing how so many of you want a treatment but do next to nothing to demand better... or to start up something that PUSHES for a treatment.

                          I'll tell you guys one thing... youre all going to let yourselves go completely bald before any of you get a treatment from Lauster's work or Tsuji Labs. Why? Because all of you have spent all your efforts fighting over fcking Dr. Gho and other small potatoes rather than tackling the real solution..... a FINAL solution.

                          How many more balding men will it take, to have a cure made available for us? Or are all of you just like other men that treat mens health as something LESS THAN a priority. Women live 6-8 years longer than we do. Know why? Because more studies are done in their favor. And what have men done for themselves?

                          Nothing. Just like hair loss treatment.

                          I'm getting tired of waiting and its going to be only a matter of time before I go out on a full public rampage calling out EVERYONE who's been responsible for letting 2014 roll in without a hair loss cure.

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                          • cocacola
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 222

                            #14
                            You speak as if the world has a liability towards you in finding a cure. Nobody owes you nothing.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cocacola
                              You speak as if the world has a liability towards you in finding a cure. Nobody owes you nothing.
                              I don't care about anyone owing me something. I care about the end result and YOUR OWN motive to do something better than be satisfied with a measly fvcking 1,500 grafts treatment for an astronomical price of $15,000... and donor regeneration is still debatable.

                              You guys seem to be happy with that. Thats no better than being happy with finasteride being the only treatment for as long as it has.

                              But go ahead, be complacent. Have low expectations. Continue to pay through the nose for minimal treatments. That will get you and everyone else very far.

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