gc83uk's september '13 procedure.

[Arashi]

The same area as last time and also a little in the front.

Having approx 1400.

I've just taken some photos of my donor, decided to try my camera phone, let me know thoughts on whether we should stick with the original camera or go ahead with this one. It seems to have a better contrast when using the flash.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gb5dfmmljjbqg59/gGHYg3EmV9

Loving those photo's ! I miss the left side of your scalp though and I think we need some better ones of the lower part of your donor, below your scar. And then of course recipient + crown.

[gc83uk]

Loving those photo's ! I miss the left side of your scalp though and I think we need some better ones of the lower part of your donor, below your scar. And then of course recipient + crown.

I deliberately left some out from left side because it was showing my face lol.
Can retake some or just edit some easily later.

I can also take some from under the scar, however I'm almost certain they won't take any from underneath there, better safe than sorry though.

Also I haven't really got them in any particular order here. I'm concerned how difficult it's going to be to stitch these photos together.

[Arashi]

I'm concerned how difficult it's going to be to stitch these photos together.

For sure. That's why I suggested to get a marker and put some blue dots on your scalp. You really don't need tons, I think about 10 should do the job. Maybe even use a few different colors to make it more clear what is what.

[gc83uk]

For sure. That's why I suggested to get a marker and put some blue dots on your scalp. You really don't need tons, I think about 10 should do the job. Maybe even use a few different colors to make it more clear what is what.

OK i'll do it. Tipex would have been better because that would have washed off pretty easy. I'm just thinking of what will come easiest with shampoo later.

[gc83uk]

Are you online Arashi? Going to upload new pics now. I've taken maybe 50ish of donor, some are repeats, but better to have too many at this point than too little. I've made some marks on my head to help piece it together.

If these are good enough I'll move on to the crown etc.

[gc83uk]

OK Photos are uploaded. I really don't think I can improve these photos.

I can take more, but take a look at these first.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c5eie3r1jc16vk7/HiDmIQy3-_

[Arashi]

OK Photos are uploaded. I really don't think I can improve these photos.

I can take more, but take a look at these first.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c5eie3r1jc16vk7/HiDmIQy3-_

Mate, I've skimmed through them and they look just perfect at first glance !! Will take a closer look tomorrow but I think this is it. Exciting stuff ! It's going to be a horrible job to do the analysis but as long as we have photo's like this, it's doable.

Only thing missing is recipient.

[534623]

Mate, I've skimmed through them and they look just perfect at first glance !! Will take a closer look tomorrow but I think this is it. Exciting stuff ! It's going to be a horrible job to do the analysis but as long as we have photo's like this, it's doable.

Only thing missing is recipient.

...which you will analyze too ... thanks in advance!

[didi]

im just wondering, is this going to be nearly impossible to analyse, as in both rec/donor?

we have to count all hairs from previous HSTs, then 12 months later we count all hairs in recep minus HST1,2,3...what about shock loss, assume 0?

[caddarik79]

GC seriously, for someone having a lower density than average to start with, and having done 3 HST, your donor looks great!!!!

I'm confident... then the 4th is for next week and you will have a fifth in 2014? before getting married?

from there, do you think you will let yourself enjoy a life without HST and with 3-4 cm haircut?

[gc83uk]

Mate, I've skimmed through them and they look just perfect at first glance !! Will take a closer look tomorrow but I think this is it. Exciting stuff ! It's going to be a horrible job to do the analysis but as long as we have photo's like this, it's doable.

Only thing missing is recipient.

OK great, make sure you do take that closer look asap because time is running out...I'm not shaving it again now, got an event to go to Friday night and I'm heading down to London on Monday ready for the HST.

Will take photos of everywhere else today. The recipient is a lot easier to photograph, I pulled a muscle in my neck with all those photos I took yesterday lol.

But it's worth mentioning that this camera was just a normal camera phone, so it goes to show anyone can do photos like this.

Samsung Galaxy 3 with flash on
Image quality: Superfine
Resolution: 3264 x 2448 (8m)
Everything else is set to default.
Room light: Not sure it matters, took them in a bathroom with no natural light with spot lights.

Didi, it will be almost impossible to analyse, Arashi is very keen though, so I wouldn't worry.

I on the other hand will be looking to shoot EVERY single extraction point, all 1400 of them. 700 each day, shouldn't be hard to count 700.

After that is done, we check back at the old photos which I have just uploaded and find out of those 700 FU's, how many hairs each FU had. It would be nice to number all 700 in a table, not sure if anyone has the patience for that, but at the very least we should count the total hairs that these first 700 extractions contains. I would expect 1000-1400 hairs. Perhaps it will have to be at least 1400 hairs, as Ironman says they don't even attempt to extract 1 hair fu's.

Anyway once we know that figure, I will also provide an image of the 700 newly implanted grafts in the recipient.

We will analyse those 700 as soon as possible and double check that the figure we had coming out of the donor matches up with whats been put in the recipient. Should be the same number theoretically.

We repeat the same a day later with the next 700 grafts.

In about 1 week to 2 weeks we analyse the donor to see what has happened to those 1400 grafts. And repeat this process after a few months time.

The recipient will be checked again after about 6 - 9 months to double check that what we counted in the recipient immediately after the procedure is still the same.

This is a long process, but we'll have some answers even next week, such as we'll know exactly how many extractions are made. If we count 2000 holes in my donor then we know that the failed extraction theory does exist. If we count say 1500, then no big deal, we just have to factor in that the first 100 FU's that regrow in my donor is NOT donor regrowth. Can't say fairer than that.

[gc83uk]

GC seriously, for someone having a lower density than average to start with, and having done 3 HST, your donor looks great!!!!

I'm confident... then the 4th is for next week and you will have a fifth in 2014? before getting married?

from there, do you think you will let yourself enjoy a life without HST and with 3-4 cm haircut?

cheers mate, yes 5th in 2014 is the plan.

I have no idea what hair style i'll go for, but it'll be at least 1cm, i'll see how 2 and 3cm looks. I quite enjoy the short look, it suits me fairly well.

[Arashi]

Didi, it will be almost impossible to analyse, Arashi is very keen though, so I wouldn't worry.

I surely am. I want to get to the bottom of this. This will take some time. But there's time, cause we'll have to wait at least 9 months till your final result. What I'd like to do first, without needing the final result:

1) Count the number of extraction points. This will finally show us the number of failed extractions in your case. Having this will allow us to make a better first prediction of regen. If you have tons of failed extractions, we can safely assume that this happened in your previous case too and we can calculate a prediction of regen in your previous case based upon this number.

2) Count the number of extracted hairs.

For the rest we have to wait till final result and then compare the end to pre-op.

Now since comparing all extraction points pre-op to final result is going to be an extremely time consuming job, I was thinking about ways to accelerate it. GC, the first idea and I think this what you're suggesting too: since you're getting 700 per day, maybe we can just focus on 700 ? If you shoot good photo's after day 1 of both donor and recipient, we can just focus on those ?

[gc83uk]

I surely am. I want to get to the bottom of this. This will take some time. But there's time, cause we'll have to wait at least 9 months till your final result. What I'd like to do first, without needing the final result:

1) Count the number of extraction points. This will finally show us the number of failed extractions in your case. Having this will allow us to make a better first prediction of regen. If you have tons of failed extractions, we can safely assume that this happened in your previous case too and we can calculate a prediction of regen in your previous case based upon this number.

2) Count the number of extracted hairs.

For the rest we have to wait till final result and then compare the end to pre-op.

Now since comparing all extraction points pre-op to final result is going to be an extremely time consuming job, I was thinking about ways to accelerate it. GC, the first idea and I think this what you're suggesting too: since you're getting 700 per day, maybe we can just focus on 700 ? If you shoot good photo's after day 1 of both donor and recipient, we can just focus on those ?

I was thinking the exact same.

I'll of course take a whole raft of photos on day two also, but I think day 1's 700 will give us a what we need.

[Arashi]

I was thinking the exact same.

I'll of course take a whole raft of photos on day two also, but I think day 1's 700 will give us a what we need.

Yup, I think 700 extraction points is very manageable. Ok, perfect, let's do it this way then ! I'll take a close look at your photo's to see if we're missing something, apart from recipient which we still need and will let you know asap.