hairdoubling and beardhair... my experience with dr nigams

[censur]

I mean, guys, it's likely that it has failed bigtime.
But can you really be 100 % sure after only four months?
Maybe we should wait until the six or seven month mark before judging the procedure completely?

[jay woo]

Hellouser maybe you could form a partnership with Dr Nigam. I heard quite a market exists for hair removal. Most treatments work poorly, this could be another first for Dr Nigam.

On a serious note what was Wesley Promised? Have results been promised by 4 months? most of the statements so far have been that it can take up to 12 months for results. Has Dr Nigam been contacted for his opinion and options to repair the alleged issue? Dr Nigam has always been quick to imply no customer will leave unsatisfied from his clinic. I hope for Wesley's sake he is not the first and good result occurs by 12 months. Dr Nigam should be afforded the option to reply and explain his side of the story. I know he has had many chances and opportunities.

It looks like the Indian Advertising people have been onto Dr Nigams claims for a while. April wasn't a better month as the logo got him into trouble. "“Dr. Nigam”¯ has been tarnishing the brand of RichFeel and maligning it in their Ads."

http://www.ascionline.org/index.php/february-2013.html

COMPANY: DR. NIGAM’S GOODHEALTH PVT LTD
PRODUCT: Stem Cell Hair Transplant
COMPLAINT:
“Dr. Nigam has pioneered the procedure of spotlipo and has given well sculptured figures to millions of people. Bollywood celebrities, politicians, business tycoons and cine artists prefer him to other doctors”, “Dr. Nigam co-partners India's first and only stem cell hair lab which was started 3 years back by a group of doctors with an investment of 100 crores”.

NATURE OF COMPLAINT:
As per the complaint, the advertiser claims, “Dr. Nigam has pioneered the procedure of spotlipo and has given well sculptured figures to millions of people. Bollywood celebrities, politicians, business tycoons and cine artists prefer him to other doctors”, “Dr. Nigam co-partners India's first and only stem cell hair lab which was started 3 years back by a group of doctors with an investment of 100 crores”.These claims need to be substantiated with necessary support data, proof of efficacy along with details of benefitted consumers.

DECISION: UPHELD
The CCC concluded that the claims mentioned in the advertisement and cited in the complaint, were not substantiated. The advertisement contravened Chapter I.1 of the Code. The complaint was UPHELD.

[crafter]

Why isn't Dr WEsley concentrating more on regeneration with pilofocus?

We need some hope amn

[Arashi]

LOL, Nigam responded on that other forum. He said he's not posting here anymore, which I understand, he rather just post on a forum that he sponsors and bans everyone who presents facts of his misconduct.

Anyway like expected, he says Wesley has to wait 1 year to see result. Exactly what he said after 291 days for his failed 15 graft test. Everything will grow back in the end, for sure

Furthermore dear dr Nigam, it's not just me who claims Wesley surgery failed, it was the conclusion from an independent clinic who analysed his donor. In theory it's of course possible that it takes more than 4 months to see the first regrowth (though after my surgery at HASCI I had most of my hair back at 5 months and this is usually the case for hair surgery in general). And I talked to Wesley himself, he had some 'interesting' things to say about you and your clinic (but that's up to him to elaborate on that). Maybe that's why he's not answering you anymore... I understand you keep trying to do some damage control, but hopefully people will now at least keep from visiting you till we have some more info on Wesley's situation in a few months.

[NeedHairASAP]

LOL, Nigam responded on that other forum. He said he's not posting here anymore, which I understand, he rather just post on a forum that he sponsors and bans everyone who presents facts of his misconduct.

Anyway like expected, he says Wesley has to wait 1 year to see result. Exactly what he said after 291 days for his failed 15 graft test. Everything will grow back in the end, for sure

Furthermore dear dr Nigam, it's not just me who claims Wesley surgery failed, it was the conclusion from an independent clinic who analysed his donor. In theory it's of course possible that it takes more than 4 months to see the first regrowth (though after my surgery at HASCI I had most of my hair back at 5 months and this is usually the case for hair surgery in general). And I talked to Wesley himself, he had some 'interesting' things to say about you and your clinic (but that's up to him to elaborate on that). Maybe that's why he's not answering you anymore... I understand you keep trying to do some damage control, but hopefully people will now at least keep from visiting you till we have some more info on Wesley's situation in a few months.

I'm not a Dr. Nigam fan, but he does make a reasonable case over at the other forum.

This guy had a lot of work done, and it definitely looks like his donor was pretty thin in that area to begin with.

I dont know. more confusion, as usual.

[Dazza]

LOL, Nigam responded on that other forum. He said he's not posting here anymore.

He responded in this thread today on page 6.

[Arashi]

He responded in this thread today on page 6.

Ah thanks, just saw it. Basically the same thing. Prohairclinic obviously is not as smart as Nigam, they must be idiots to be able to judge a result after only 4 months, hehe. So it's all good and in the end everything will be just fine, we just have to wait 8 more months

Anyway I think my job is done. People are now warned, anyone with a bit of brain will stay away from Nigam until we see some result in Wesley's case (which in my opinion, and you can take screenshots, will never happen, just like you can wait another year with your 15 graft test take my word for it, if there's nothing after 291 days, there won't be anything after 1000 days). The only way you'll get results after such amount of time is if you transplant 15 grafts onto the area, maybe that's an idea for you ?

[Arashi]

Link to before pics posted by wesley..

Here's a before pic he posted himself on another forum:

http://cdn.imghack.se/images/49049133d3e1d0e88b79eda928d1f40a.jpg

And here indeed his 4 months result:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23960&d=1384362096

Is it that hard to understand his disappointment ?

Hi, here some 4 month update.

Its I expected other result...

[Arashi]

and you can clearly see good growth at the recipient temples of boldy..even at 4 months.

And that's cause you used a different procedure for Boldy. You didn't split follicles in his case, you left them untouched, so it basically was just a FUE+HM (and for that last part there's no proof of effectiveness). According to Doctor Wesley grafts that become too damaged won't grow. I think that's what happened in Wesley's case. You just killed all grafts by splitting them in the wrong way, damaging both halves too much to be viable.

[Arashi]

Oh and by the way, you didn't only kill Wesley's donor and beard, this is what you did to his chest:

http://cdn.imghack.se/images/7a77b635a05a770d5f8d801ddf3e3ff5.jpg

He also complained about his beard on another forum, on how you took all grafts from just some area's instead of taking them diffusely all over his beard. Poor guy. And here's another postop photo he just posted on another forum:

https://cdn.imghack.se/images/e8c65631522b2d5cb4852b213dd5c464.jpg

I find it quite amazing that you still have the guts to come on these forums, dr Nigam.

[greatjob!]

Too be fair it is way too early to judge the growth in the recipient area. Even from a normal transplant you aren't likely to see any growth at 4 months post-op. As for regeneration in the donor, I have no idea because I don't have any experience with that.

Also how soon post-op was that chest picture taken? If that is 4 months post-op that's terrible, but it looks to be pretty shortly after the procedure was done.

Not saying I have much hope of this being successful, but it still is too early to judge.

[Arashi]

Even from a normal transplant you aren't likely to see any growth at 4 months post-op.

Look at Boldy. Nigam gave him a different procedure (FUE+HM, without splitting grafts), he has good growth already, just like you could expect with any normal FUE after 4 months (he was treated the same week as Wesley). When looking back my own photo's from my own (hasci) procedure, I saw the first regrowth at 2 months and had about 70-80% of my hairs at 5 months. I think that's pretty normal for such a procedure.

Yes, 4 months is quick, but man, this looks very very disappointing and not promising anything good at all, very much the contrary. We'll see but I'm really afraid he won't see much improvement.

[greatjob!]

Look at Boldy. Nigam gave him a different procedure (FUE+HM, without splitting grafts), he has good growth already, just like you could expect with any normal FUE after 4 months (he was treated the same week as Wesley). When looking back my own photo's from my own (hasci) procedure, I saw the first regrowth at 2 months and had about 70-80% of my hairs at 5 months. I think that's pretty normal for such a procedure.

Yes, 4 months is quick, but man, this looks very very disappointing and not promising anything good at all, very much the contrary. We'll see but I highly doubt it will get much better.

Yeah sometimes people are early growers, I'm just saying from my personal experience having two transplants and looking at 1000's of results over the years it is very common to see little to no growth at 4 months post-op. So while I'm not too hopeful this will be successful based on Nigam's track record, I think it is still too early to call it an outright failure.

[Arashi]

Even from a normal transplant you aren't likely to see any growth at 4 months post-op.

I just went through my own photo's, here's a photo of 4 months and 1 week after my procedure: http://cdn.imghack.se/images/e987fe2...e3a8dc909d.jpg

I think about 70% is there, some hairs were still very 'fresh' and therefore extremely thin, almost like spider rag, only viewable if you zoom in and look right, but still, they were there. To my understanding that's pretty standard for any hair transplant.

Prohairclinic, a well respected clinic in Antwerp, has taken a look at Wesley's scalp and concluded there was nothing there. Again yes, in theory it might still come but the odds are not exactly good and if you combine that with the fact that Nigam's own 15 graft test failed ... it all doesn't look promising

[HairBane]

I think there's at least a possibility (I hope) that Nigam was at least on to SOMETHING, maybe he stumbled across a way of regenerating some hair - and maybe he's also a fraud and really crap and doing transplants. If that's possible, maybe Mwamba or someone else will figure out a way of actually doing what Nigam falsely claimed to be doing. It seems theoretically sound enough, maybe Nigam is just awful at hair transplants and constantly fumbles all the biotech stuff. If there was a way to double hairs, bisecting grafts seems like a fairly obvious way to do it, so Nigam can't really take much credit for it.