Dean Saunders 3rd Treatment was his FINAL treatment?!?!?!

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  • c5000
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 241

    Dean Saunders 3rd Treatment was his FINAL treatment?!?!?!

    According to the Hasci site:



    This was his 3rd and final treatment... If that's the best that they can do with someone of his baldness, then that is a little worrying...
  • chrisis
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1257

    #2
    Are there any pics of the 3400+ he's already had?

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      #3
      I'm quite sure that's not the max they can do. Kristel once explained it like this: With the second transplant they usually can get as many grafts as with the first. However starting with the 3rd, on average they yield 100 grafts less per each transplant.

      Since they could still get as many grafts in the 3rd procedure as with the 1st, I conclude that his donor is very good and he should be able to get tons more.

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        #4
        Where can we see more pictures ? Isn't it that he hopes that these 3 procedures will be enough to give hem good coverage everywhere ? I think that makes more sense.

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        • NeedHairASAP
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1408

          #5
          I say he needs one on the crown and another up front and he'll be in pretty good shape.

          I never did think they'd be able to cover that area in 3 procedures. His head isn't huge or anything, but it's not the smallest area to cover.


          two more 1,400-1,600 graft procedures and he'll be sitting pretty... or very close to it, like nw2.5

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          • 534623
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1854

            #6
            Originally posted by chrisis

            Are there any pics of the 3400+ he's already had?
            Nope - actually, he had exactly 5138 HST grafts all in all - so far.

            Read the full report in English ...



            Snippet from the article:

            "Just like Gerard Joling, Dean is now assured of a healthy head of hair, even though he says he'll probably keep shaving his head. That's something he'll be able to do for a long time to come, thanks to the guaranteed regrowth in the donor area and absolutely no scarring."

            That means, 5138 HST grafts means also around 1000 hairless gaps already (if there was always around 80% donor regrowth) in his donor area. Imho - that's actually nothing IF a guy has a good donor quality (amount of grafts) in general.
            So I think they still could get again around 5138 grafts - and the latter is still Saunder's CHOICE/OPTION, I think.

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            • cocacola
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 222

              #7
              Once again, speculation without facts! I suggest that someone who is in good contact with hasci just asks them. If its because of donor depletion or its saunders choice to stop it at this point.

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #8
                Originally posted by cocacola
                Once again, speculation without facts! I suggest that someone who is in good contact with hasci just asks them. If its because of donor depletion or its saunders choice to stop it at this point.
                I'm 99% sure it must be his own decision. But I'll ask Kristel, hopefully will have an answer tomorrow.

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                • JJJJrS
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 638

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cocacola
                  Once again, speculation without facts! I suggest that someone who is in good contact with hasci just asks them. If its because of donor depletion or its saunders choice to stop it at this point.
                  That's the big question.

                  When we first heard about Dean Saunder's procedure, a lot of people looked at it as an "educational" case. Dean is someone in the public eye at an advanced stage of hairloss and we would get to see exactly how much HASCI could do with a case like that. If this is truly his last procedure, then it's pretty disappointing.

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JJJJrS
                    That's the big question.

                    When we first heard about Dean Saunder's procedure, a lot of people looked at it as an "educational" case. Dean is someone in the public eye at an advanced stage of hairloss and we would get to see exactly how much HASCI could do with a case like that. If this is truly his last procedure, then it's pretty disappointing.
                    Doing 3 procedures, getting 1700 grafts each (which is a lot, he obviously has great donor) and then all of a sudden there are 0 grafts left in donor for transplantation ? That just doesn't make any sense to me at all.

                    Anyway, I've asked Kristel, hopefully we'll know tomorrow

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                    • FearTheLoss
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1581

                      #11
                      didn't he have procedures before HST too?

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                      • JJJJrS
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 638

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Arashi
                        Doing 3 procedures, getting 1700 grafts each (which is a lot, he obviously has great donor) and then all of a sudden there are 0 grafts left in donor for transplantation ? That just doesn't make any sense to me at all.

                        Anyway, I've asked Kristel, hopefully we'll know tomorrow
                        I agree but I don't understand why he'd stop either. His hair line is still too high and there's plenty of room for more density. Overall, it's not much of an improvement over where he started. Money shouldn't be an issue for him so I don't understand why he wouldn't go all the way with this after already having 3 procedures.

                        Hopefully you can get some answers from Kristel.

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JJJJrS
                          I agree but I don't understand why he'd stop either.
                          True ... I'd definitely go back at least 2 more times.

                          Same thing goes btw for Gerard Joling. I don't understand why he's not going back for more ... But maybe from an artist point of view, who's in the "spotlight", the downtime and the shaving of the hairs is just a too big of an issue to do it 4-5 times in a row ? Anyway, curious to find out what Kristel says about it.

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                          • cocacola
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 222

                            #14
                            Well for saunders hes been a blown out nw MAX all his life. And thats what his style is. I dont think that he want to go through 10 procedures for a tom cruise hairline. His image would change also. All his fan base knows him as a bald shaved guy, and all of a sudden he has long hair. That would hurt his image imo.

                            Also this is something posted by IM on hairsite back when saunders had his first operation

                            "In consultation with Dean, there are three treatments planned over a longer period of time. The multiple treatments are necessary for Dean to achieve the desired amount of hair and the breaks between treatments gives the donor area the opportunity to regenerate completely. "

                            So they basically have planned 3 operations, this means that that 3rd hst is the final according to the initial plan. Maybe more will come, but it would be great to get some info from kristel!

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                            • clarence
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 278

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cocacola
                              Well for saunders hes been a blown out nw MAX all his life. And thats what his style is. I dont think that he want to go through 10 procedures for a tom cruise hairline. His image would change also. All his fan base knows him as a bald shaved guy, and all of a sudden he has long hair. That would hurt his image imo.
                              Then what's with all the pictures which we get when we type "Dean Saunders" into google images? Lots pics, some recent, where he has this full head of hair, and nearly juvenile, Tom Cruise hairline? Wigs? Toupés? Drugs?

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