where are gho's pictures ( before - after ) as the other clinics?

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  • elgorvanelsinki
    Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 51

    #16
    thanks arashi. may i ask you a few questions? did you have the procedure at hashi? if you did, what about your initial situation? how many grafts did thet extract? how is your result? are you satisfied?

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      #17
      Originally posted by elgorvanelsinki
      thanks arashi. may i ask you a few questions? did you have the procedure at hashi? if you did, what about your initial situation? how many grafts did thet extract? how is your result? are you satisfied?
      Got 1600 grafts with which they filled up my temples and lowered my hairline with about a cm. I'm a 4 months and 1 week so it's way too soon to draw any conclusions yet, but my donor looks untouched and the shedded hairs are starting to grow back. So far so good.

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      • garethbale
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 603

        #18
        Originally posted by Arashi
        Got 1600 grafts with which they filled up my temples and lowered my hairline with about a cm. I'm a 4 months and 1 week so it's way too soon to draw any conclusions yet, but my donor looks untouched and the shedded hairs are starting to grow back. So far so good.
        do you have, or will you post any pics Arashi?

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          #19
          Originally posted by garethbale
          do you have, or will you post any pics Arashi?
          Not much to show at 4 months, I've shed about 70% of the hairs, which is slowly starting to grow back. I'm a regular visitor of this board and will definately post 6, 9 and 12 months results.

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          • drnigams
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 551

            #20
            Arashi,
            From me you want high definition photos,
            My friend dr gho is lucky,for him you are satisfied with the technique alone,You don't require any pic from HST.
            At least allow me to question the technique and claim,nothing personal against HST.
            And questions are only to explore and improve the treatments of MPB.
            BTW,Why don't you post you donor pics at least so that we can follow the donor regeneration which does not undergo shedding.


            Originally posted by Arashi
            Always keep in mind, when looking at patient result photo's, that a lot of photo's out there are being manipulated. For example, a scalp with thin hair can look quite dense if it's in the shadow and/or if concealer is being used. Also keep in mind that Gho usually only does relatively small transplants, 1000-1600 grafts.

            Some people say "I'm not impressed with Gho's results, look at this photo from clinic X, it's much better" and then they show a photo of a patient who had 5000 grafts, is using concealer AND the camera light is not directed at his scalp.

            Personally I think it makes much more sense to look at the technique a clinic is using, instead of focusing too much on patient pictures.

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            • Arashi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3888

              #21
              Originally posted by drnigams
              Arashi,
              From me you want high definition photos,
              My friend dr gho is lucky,for him you are satisfied with the technique alone,You don't require any pic from HST.
              At least allow me to question the technique and claim,nothing personal against HST.
              And questions are only to explore and improve the treatments of MPB.
              BTW,Why don't you post you donor pics at least so that we can follow the donor regeneration which does not undergo shedding.
              LOL. I'm just a patient, you're a doctor (at least that's what you call yourself). I don't need to proof anything at all. You make all sorts of crazy claims about your own technique, I don't claim anything at all. Besides, there are already good VERY high definition photo's of donor regeneration on this forum, see for example the analysis from JJJJR'S on the scalp of GC83UK: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11297 What would my photo add to that ? We've seen enough proof of donor regeneration already. We've seen NO proof at all of your technique, just some photo's you photoshopped.

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #22
                And judging by the way you're childishly trying to damage dr Gho's reputation, by claiming that his procedure is EXTREMELY painful (painlevel 10 out of 10, haha, like it's as a painful as an open heart surgery without any sedation) and that fake picture you've put op on HS of the 'white dots marking failed regeneration), I really doubt he's you're 'friend' as you claim above.

                I'd rate my painlevel as 2-3 on a scale of 10 during my Gho surgery and never have heard of anyone here, who said the procedure was painful. Quite the contrary. And we've seen NO proof at all of *failed* regeneration, like you claim. Quite the contrary, we've ONLY seen proof of *succesful* regeneration, as posted by quite a few patients on this forum.

                So I suggest you step down a bit, stop the crazy accusations against Gho and post REAL proof of your technique, instead of those faked photoshopped pictures you've posted (and defended ! Until you couldn't defend them anymore and accused your webdeveloper of photoshopping them) before.

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                • didi
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1360

                  #23
                  And judging by the way you're childishly trying to damage dr Gho's reputation, by claiming that his procedure is EXTREMELY painful (painlevel 10 out of 10


                  theres misunderstanding here,
                  when dr nigam says hst pain level was 10 and nigams was 5 what he mean is that Ghos procedure is twice as painfull as Nigams...it doesnt mean Gho procedure was very painfull...its only in relation to HST...FuE would be 20..strip 40 on pain scale...you get the point..

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    #24
                    Originally posted by didi
                    when dr nigam says hst pain level was 10 and nigams was 5 what he mean is that Ghos procedure is twice as painfull as Nigams...it doesnt mean Gho procedure was very painfull...its only in relation to HST...FuE would be 20..strip 40 on pain scale...you get the point..
                    This is what he said:
                    Regarding pain and discomfort on the scale 10, 10 points at HST and at 5 - 6 points at Dr. Nigam.
                    So on a scale 1 to 10, pain level at HASCI is 10 and at Dr Nigam it's 5.

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                    • didi
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1360

                      #25
                      its good to question everything and anything.

                      Dr Nigam

                      I think you should make a trip to Amsterdam and have a chat with Dr Gho...
                      ask him about procedure and if he is willing to sell you trainning+fully equipped studio for 60 000 bucks,

                      IF thechnique works as claimed its good investment, you will make milions in India..if it doesnt Gho will be history...either way you win

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                      • drnigams
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 551

                        #26
                        didi,
                        I will be there at scotland at the 7th world congress on hairr research from 4th to 6th may2013.
                        Jahoda the famous UK researcher, who is my favorite will be there , i am banking on fruitful meeting with him.
                        Others like costarilis, people from aderans,follica,histogen ,japanese guys will all be there.
                        Hopefully dr gho will also be there as amsterdum is not so far from scotland.
                        This congress is totally focussed into the discussion on stemcells.
                        I don't know when will people like ARASHI and others understand that there is no harm in asking hard questions to me or to dr gho,only the one who has something to hide or not sure about his technique will shy away.The more we exchange our experience ,discuss and debate more we will improve.
                        And why the hard questions should not be asked.There is nothing personal against anyone,let me tell arashi does she want to read mails sent to indian dermatologists of dr gho enquiring about what dr nigam is doing with stemcells in india.
                        Fortunately his only dermatologist friend from india is working for me since last six months which he is not aware of
                        I know thoroughly about his technique as this dermatologist is working with me and had taken a patient to hst few years back and she was present in the OT throughout the procedure.
                        I believe myself that hst technique can give a donor regeneration of 60 to 70%.But here i am talking of 95% to 100% donor regeneration with in vitro technique.

                        Originally posted by didi
                        its good to question everything and anything.

                        Dr Nigam

                        I think you should make a trip to Amsterdam and have a chat with Dr Gho...
                        ask him about procedure and if he is willing to sell you trainning+fully equipped studio for 60 000 bucks,

                        IF thechnique works as claimed its good investment, you will make milions in India..if it doesnt Gho will be history...either way you win

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          #27
                          Originally posted by drnigams
                          I don't know when people like ARASHI and others there is no in asking hard questions,only the one who has something to hide or not sure about his technique will shy away.And why the hard questions should not be asked.There is nothing personal against anyone,let me tell arashi does she want to read mails sent to indian dermatologists of dr gho enquiring about what dr nigam is doing with stemcells in india.
                          Fortunately his only dermatologist friend is working for me since last six months which he is not aware of
                          ??? Does someone understand what Dr Nigam is saying here ?

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            #28
                            Hmm I think he's saying that Dr Gho is inquiring in India about what Dr Nigam is doing. Which would seem totally logically, since it seems Dr Nigam is just copy cat-ing/stealing Gho's technique. If I were Gho I'd try to find out what he's doing as well and see if and how I could sue him.

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                            • 534623
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1854

                              #29
                              Originally posted by drnigams

                              Fortunately his only dermatologist friend from india is working for me since last six months which he is not aware of
                              I know thoroughly about his technique as this dermatologist is working with me and had taken a patient to hst few years back and she was present in the OT throughout the procedure.
                              If you would know "thoroughly about Dr. Gho's technique" - you wouldn't talk such an endless and incompetent crap about it. Usually, just a real psychopath is acting like you - are you one?

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                              • Kiwi
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 1087

                                #30
                                Give it a rest guys.

                                If Dr N has stolen Dr Ghos technique that is great news for balding people. I don't give a **** about who does it and I don't like Gho holding out on us when the world so freely shared FUE with him in the first place.

                                If it works and you don't goto see Dr N because somehow you think Dr N's "stealin"g is morally worse then holding out on the cure for us then you're a dumb ****. Plain and simple.

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