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  • caddarik79
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 495

    What density to grow long hair

    Do you think Gho might one day be able to reach more than 70 grafts cm2?
    Is there any surgeon who manage to get close to Mother Nature density?

    I was wondering what density was needed to be able to really enjoy again longer haircuts!!!!???
  • FearTheLoss
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1581

    #2
    70 grafts cm2 would be plenty for long hair too..you don't need more than that..and if you want more than that you will more than likely have to wait for hair multiplication depending on what nw you are

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    • cocacola
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 222

      #3
      Well it will be different from person to person, depending on many factors.
      1.Hair shaft diameter.
      2.Hair color.
      3.Hair shape (curly/wavy/straight)
      4.Skin color
      5.Desired haircut.

      I think that anything above 80-90 hairs/cm2 will look good. Therefore 40-45 fu cm2 will do the trick provided at least 2 hairs per fu. This should be actual fu count, not doctor said there will be 35 fu's and there is actually 20 fu's.

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      • didi
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1360

        #4
        Whats the longest cut you can have with Ghos 35g/cm2 before it starts looking too thin?

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        • caddarik79
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 495

          #5
          Originally posted by didi
          Whats the longest cut you can have with Ghos 35g/cm2 before it starts looking too thin?

          yes good question, that was actually my point.
          for those who are on FB, type Gerard Joling (singer/musician) and look at his recent pictures, not so bad, really...but I think he might need another two or three to start to have a real dense top and have longer hair cuts

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          • 534623
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1854

            #6
            Originally posted by caddarik79
            yes good question, that was actually my point.
            for those who are on FB, type Gerard Joling (singer/musician) and look at his recent pictures, not so bad, really...but I think he might need another two or three to start to have a real dense top and have longer hair cuts
            Is he just wearing short haircuts?

            Joling loves bald losers
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            • didi
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1360

              #7
              Joling had existing hair before HST+he wears tons of concealer

              We are talking about 35 hst grafts on slick bald scalp

              Are you implying GCs hair will look the same once his HST (35g/cm2 )grows out?
              I bet it wont as his surrounding hair looks much thicker and even with concealer it will be hard to match that

              GC have about 50 HAIRS per cm2, 200 is average...thats about 1/4 of original density, or 1/3 at best...not enough to pull illusion

              Unless GC buys more grafts buzzcut is way to go

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              • caddarik79
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 495

                #8
                Originally posted by 534623
                Is he just wearing short haircuts?

                Joling loves bald losers


                To me, this is still short hair, so keep your energy IM.
                I am experiencing regrowth and was just wondering how many HST or grafts would be needed for a slick NW6 to reach the amount of hair that will let him free to choose any kind of hairstyle.

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                • caddarik79
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 495

                  #9
                  Originally posted by didi
                  Joling had existing hair before HST+he wears tons of concealer

                  We are talking about 35 hst grafts on slick bald scalp

                  Are you implying GCs hair will look the same once his HST (35g/cm2 )grows out?
                  I bet it wont as his surrounding hair looks much thicker and even with concealer it will be hard to match that

                  GC have about 50 HAIRS per cm2, 200 is average...thats about 1/4 of original density, or 1/3 at best...not enough to pull illusion

                  Unless GC buys more grafts buzzcut is way to go

                  You don't know if he is using concealar, why do you always put affirmative things out when actually you have no one to confirm you.
                  And again, if you look his Facebook...I mean the dude spends his time in Caribbean, enjoying sun and pools, there is no way he is using this shit.

                  But still I think he would need another two or three sessions to be really ok.



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                  • 534623
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1854

                    #10
                    Originally posted by caddarik79

                    ... just wondering how many HST or grafts would be needed for a slick NW6 to reach the amount of hair that will let him free to choose any kind of hairstyle.
                    Why don't you ask Spencer Kobren's IAHRS recommended surgeons?
                    Don't you trust them??

                    Or do you think just Dr. Gho is able to give you a proper answer?

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                    • 534623
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1854

                      #11
                      Originally posted by caddarik79

                      You don't know if he is using concealar, why do you always put affirmative things out when actually you have no one to confirm you.
                      Damn good question...

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                      • caddarik79
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 495

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 534623
                        Why don't you ask Spencer Kobren's IAHRS recommended surgeons?
                        Don't you trust them??

                        Or do you think just Dr. Gho is able to give you a proper answer?


                        Not that I don't trust them, I was in contact a lot with Dr Mwamba before jumping on Gho...
                        Actually, I knew about Gho since 2002 - 2003, already threads about HM... but then I thought he would never bring it, I left forums for a while... came back, was interested with acell-prp, FIT, FUE but still not convinced.
                        I actually did one acell session three months prior my HST.
                        At that time I did not know about the so running HASCI, really the hasard put me on Gho and Scissor boy video, from there it was no way question to continue with Mwamba, even if he is talented.

                        I think 70g/cm2 is already very nice, considering you have 80g/cm2 in donor... still I hope they will reach even a perfect match with injections techniques etc... wishfull thinking.

                        Pity you are not french speaking IM, we could have shared some e-mails.

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                        • caddarik79
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 495

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 534623
                          Damn good question...
                          Yes, I don't get why they are so sure about that, same for Sneider who *****ng play soccer and sweat and use his head to score...why the hell would he put concealar on 3mm shaved head when he is a football player?

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                          • caddarik79
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 495

                            #14
                            also for those who can afford multiple HST, the right strategy is to make your front very dense, and then take it easy for refilling your crown...

                            I guess, the more costy and stressfull period is in the three first years, maybe four...then you can maybe relax, and do one procedure per 2-3 years, to improve and improve and use your money to live your life also, to feel more balanced, less focused.
                            And also hope that meanwhile, technique improves, possibilities get bigger, densities higher.... and gooooaaaaal!

                            It's a journey, but much less depressing than the minox + propecia journey in terms of achievement and progress and possibilities...

                            Also, I hope competition will wake up, I mean if Netherland holds the grail for the moment, what will Germany or USA or Japan bring whenever they are ready?

                            fingers crossed.

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                            • didi
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1360

                              #15
                              Dr Wesley

                              'It’s important to realize, however, that the most important value is not FU/cm2, but rather the number of HAIRS/cm2. Transplanting 2-to-3-haired FU at 35/cm2 results in equal or significantly more hairs/cm2 (70-105) than densely packing single-hair FU at 70 FU/cm2 (70). '

                              He recommends 35 grafts per cm2 however his grafts are cherry picked 2s and 3s...

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