Another Gho question.

[534623]

I'll tell you where they come from, my donor area. There is no doubt in my mind that they extract 1 hair grafts as well as 2 hair grafts.

No - definitely no.

Your 3rd HST - you have ...

- a 1-day BEFORE photo
- a 2-days AFTER photo

... from the same area.

So you know exactly what they extracted - at least in this area.

[gc83uk]

No - definitely no.

Your 3rd HST - you have ...

- a 1-day BEFORE photo
- a 2-days AFTER photo

... from the same area.

So you know exactly what they extracted - at least in this area.

your basically saying all the grafts extracted in this area were 2 hair grafts because you can see the before and after photos. Right, well I assumed at least some of the extracted hairs were 1 hair grafts, but as you say that can be verified and it looks like you already have verified that.

So your saying they didn't extract any 1 hair grafts or what? If you think so, then why was there 1 hair grafts in the dish, my imagination playing tricks on me?

[534623]

What are you trying to say?

They didn't extract single-hair grafts from your donor area.

[gc83uk]

They didn't extract single-hair grafts from your donor area.

Ha, I must have edited my post 3 times just then, so I'll take that question back.

OK well the 1 hair grafts which I have in my recipient area, is that simply down to my scarring alopecia 'in your opinion'? Or might these 1 hair grafts develop into 2 hair grafts over time as they mature?

I'm assuming you don't have any 1 hair grafts growing and I'm on my own with this then?

[gc83uk]

The only plausible, but unfortunately slightly vague answer I have from you is:

"- Does this area, which is unique ("fishy") to other areas, still have an influence on transplanted grafts - besides the negative influence in general of fibrous tissue (as a result of scarring alopecia) in the receptor area?

So far, besides a somewhat lower density of transplanted grafts in this "fishy area", the hair structure is practically exactly the same as in gc's natural/unaffected front area - and that's the point of my "donor area" pic."

Also...

"So wherefrom are the many single-hair grafts you could see in the petri dish?
lol, this is actually easy to explain ..."

Is your explanation of these 1 hair grafts in the dish that basically I didn't see 1 hair grafts and I imagined it?

[Jasari]

Hasci have also increased their maximum number of grafts per day from 2520 to 3000 on their website.

That has to be good news, however we're still to hear about a single person having more than 1800 done.

I've been in contact with them and am having a procedure Q3 this year. They have confirmed that I will have approx 3000 grafts (Which was my request) but I haven't found out whether that is over 1 or 2 days yet.

[gc83uk]

I've been in contact with them and am having a procedure Q3 this year. They have confirmed that I will have approx 3000 grafts (Which was my request) but I haven't found out whether that is over 1 or 2 days yet.

wow, that will be a first. I take it you've sent over photos or had a consultation?

How much are they charging for 3000 grafts? This surely has to be over 2 days, unless your going to start at 6am and finish at 8pm

[hellouser]

I've been in contact with them and am having a procedure Q3 this year. They have confirmed that I will have approx 3000 grafts (Which was my request) but I haven't found out whether that is over 1 or 2 days yet.

AWESOME!

Please keep us posted! Youre going to effectively come down TWO norwood levels, this is great!

[JJJJrS]

I've been in contact with them and am having a procedure Q3 this year. They have confirmed that I will have approx 3000 grafts (Which was my request) but I haven't found out whether that is over 1 or 2 days yet.

How did you manage to convince them to do that?

I think 3k grafts is the most they've ever done in a single session so you're getting close to breaking the record. I noticed that they increased the maximum number of grafts per session on their website also to 3k. I really hope this is a sign that they're becoming more comfortable with larger sessions.

[Arashi]

How did you manage to convince them to do that?

I think 3k grafts is the most they've ever done in a single session so you're getting close to breaking the record. I noticed that they increased the maximum number of grafts per session on their website also to 3k. I really hope this is a sign that they're becoming more comfortable with larger sessions.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be divided in 2 sessions, given the fact that they need a full day (7:30 am - 6 pm) for 1600 grafts already.

[534623]

I'm pretty sure it's going to be divided in 2 sessions, given the fact that they need a full day (7:30 am - 6 pm) for 1600 grafts already.

Yes, that's right. Now they can make 10,000 holes in your donor area - divided in 2 sessions.

[aim4hair]

I've been in contact with them and am having a procedure Q3 this year. They have confirmed that I will have approx 3000 grafts (Which was my request) but I haven't found out whether that is over 1 or 2 days yet.

how did hey confirm this ? i thought they usually give the least number of grafts they an do, not the max... plus you had FUE before, so if they really can extract approx 3000 grafts from your non virgin donor, that would be awesome!!

[gc83uk]

Iron Man, answer my previous post would you please.

[534623]

The next photo shows my entire recipient from further away from the front view, the 3rd HST is still in the very early stages, 7 weeks today, however I've retained maybe 30% of grafts, but I'm not even thinking about that area until another 6 weeks at least.
Week 7 view of recip area

Sure, you shaved your hair including the new implanted hairs and a loss of around 70% (+/-) during the first 2 month or so, seems to be "standard" among HST candidates - like me. But the result of your 7 weeks after photos from your 2nd HST...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/2nd%20-%20week%207%20recip%20007.JPG

http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/2nd%20-%20week%207%20recip%20001.JPG

...is still legendary!
...in comparison with your 7 weeks after photos from your 3rd HST.

Anyway, click the 2 links, enlarge the photos and - what type of grafts can YOU see?
Then try to imagine how all these new and LONG hairs/grafts in the photos would look like, if they would be shaved as in your new recipient photos.

[534623]

But the result of your 7 weeks after photos from your 2nd HST...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/2nd%20-%20week%207%20recip%20001.JPG

...is still legendary!

Anyway, around 7 MONTH later - and shaved...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/14th%20Jan%202013%20065.JPG

So this photo shows the "shaved result" of your 2nd HST 9 month after.

In comparison to the completely new implanted grafts in the photo, the hairs from your 2nd HST next to them, appear almost like BEARD HAIRS concerning the diameter/thickness of the hair shafts - just after 9 month!

Concerning the type of grafts, I can actually just see the same as in the new implantation area - namely most of the grafts are 2-hair grafts, maybe some are indeed singles, but there are definitely also a few 3-hair grafts. That's what I can see. And just because you can see "singles" - it's absolutely NOT clear and you simply CAN'T tell whether or not they are really singles, because the really really good question is, why do these "singles" appear much thicker just after 9 month than the hair-shafts of the completely new implanted hairs from the donor area??

Furthermore, you can see in every other recipient photos the hard transition zone (like a line) between the slick bald area and the new implanted hairs of the 3rd, 2nd and 1st HST, what clearly shows the growth-rate (aka "yield") in general of all implanted grafts, which is definitely superb, because it appears that practically EVERY implanted graft produced hair.

So if someone can see something completely different in all these photos than just described - should immediately stop smoking the real hard stuff.