The 50 Graft Test Procedure

[FearTheLoss]

I can throw in 40USD

[didi]

I cant see pics of the guy on dutch forum, doesnt let me open photos unless im signed in.

We should be Ok with money once all Gho fanboys/doubters chip in with help from guys on dutch forum


maybe start a new thread, ..'raising funds for HST test procedure'
get photos of Dutch guy posted on this forum, he needs to have slick bald scalp where grafts are going to be implanted

once we have money we will just email hasci and book it asap, shouldnt be more than a few months to wait and guy lives in Holland which is another plus

[Arashi]

I cant see pics of the guy on dutch forum, doesnt let me open photos unless im signed in.

We should be Ok with money once all Gho fanboys/doubters chip in with help from guys on dutch forum


maybe start a new thread, ..'raising funds for HST test procedure'
get photos of Dutch guy posted on this forum, he needs to have slick bald scalp where grafts are going to be implanted

once we have money we will just email hasci and book it asap, shouldnt be more than a few months to wait and guy lives in Holland which is another plus

Here are the pictures:

http://picturepush.com/public/12414698

http://picturepush.com/public/12414704

What do you guys think, good candidate, right ?

[Arashi]

To clarify, this poor guy's hair was messed up by a Turkish unknown clinic, who obviously performed a horrible job. He contacted HASCI and they said they could improve his situation. But since he's afraid of another transplant, he's interested in the 50 graft test and see how HASCI works for him.

[didi]

Hes got no slick bald areas, it would be hard to do test on him

Where would you put these 50 grafts?

He shd definately go to hasci and get fixed but he is bad test candidate

[FearTheLoss]

I think he is a good test candidate. He is close, has terrible donor, and we don't need a completely slick bald area to test this...these 50 grafts can be put close together....and plus, no one is going to want to do the 50 graft test procedure on the middle of their cue ball head and have a little island growing there...we can compromise a little..this guy can get it done

[Arashi]

I think he is a good test candidate. He is close, has terrible donor, and we don't need a completely slick bald area to test this...these 50 grafts can be put close together....and plus, no one is going to want to do the 50 graft test procedure on the middle of their cue ball head and have a little island growing there...we can compromise a little..this guy can get it done

Exactly, his donor is really thin, which makes it perfect for analysis. And like you said, he really doesn't have to be slick bald. He has only a couple of hairs on his crown, which really isn't an issue at all. I think that area would be perfect as recipient.

[Arashi]

And like 'feartheloss' correctly noted: nobody is going to have an island of grafts in the middle of his slick bald head implanted, you've got to be realistic here.

This guy's thin donor plus almost bald crown plus that he's living in the Netherlands and wants to find out if HASCI can improve his situation makes him a good candidate IMHO.

[JJJJrS]

I totally agree that the 50 graft test is THE test that will yield final proof. Without recipient, donor regrowth is a useless number.

If we're going to wait for Spencer, we'll be at the same spot 5 years from now. Why don't we chip in money ourselves and get somebody, preferably a Dutch guy living close, to go over there and have 50 grafts done ? I think this is the best way to move forward quickly. I for one would have no problems to chip in 200 euro.

I agree. But I read that Dr. Gho no longer offers 50 graft test procedures anymore unless you're a very difficult case (Google "My Consultation with HASCI on HST (Dr G's clinic)" for more info).

If someone can get HASCI to agree to do the 50 graft procedure, I would gladly chip in $50-100. Whoever is getting the procedure done has to be able to take very good pictures. And for the recipient, the grafts have to be contained within a relatively small area and preferably with minimal existing hair in that area. Of course, slick bald would be ideal but at the least we don't want a lot of existing hair in the area where we can't tell what's been transplanted and what is preexisting.

As long as the pictures are clear and detailed, the analysis would be very straightforward and would probably be the simplest part of the whole process. But I'll try to help and support whatever anyone can come up with.

[JJJJrS]

Exactly, his donor is really thin, which makes it perfect for analysis. And like you said, he really doesn't have to be slick bald. He has only a couple of hairs on his crown, which really isn't an issue at all. I think that area would be perfect as recipient.

I think that would be the best place to put it. In my opinion, we can't be too picky looking for the perfect candidate. I'll read more about this guy's case but I think he would be just fine.

The key is to get HASCI to agree to the 50 graft procedure and to take good pictures. If he can do that, then he would be great.

[FearTheLoss]

I think that would be the best place to put it. In my opinion, we can't be too picky looking for the perfect candidate. I'll read more about this guy's case but I think he would be just fine.

The key is to get HASCI to agree to the 50 graft procedure and to take good pictures. If he can do that, then he would be great.

If we got this on the air with spencer and made a big deal about it...and let Gho know what it was going to be publicized all over the internet...he would have no choice other than to do it.

[JJJJrS]

If we got this on the air with spencer and made a big deal about it...and let Gho know what it was going to be publicized all over the internet...he would have no choice other than to do it.

Definitely. It would be great if people would call into the show/email him and bring it up. Spencer is a reasonable guy and I'm sure he'd be up for it if he saw that the demand was there.

It's not like there's a ton of other things happening now in the hair loss world. Finding out whether this doctor is preforming hair multiplication would be huge. If we don't succeed with this initiative, I'm afraid it will drag on for another few years, which is a disservice for anyone who has the least bit of interest in the procedure and its implications.

[didi]

How about contacting Spencer via email or perhaps Joe from Staten Island can help us,
does anyone know his username, pitty we cant use PM

[FearTheLoss]

Definitely. It would be great if people would call into the show/email him and bring it up. Spencer is a reasonable guy and I'm sure he'd be up for it if he saw that the demand was there.

It's not like there's a ton of other things happening now in the hair loss world. Finding out whether this doctor is preforming hair multiplication would be huge. If we don't succeed with this initiative, I'm afraid it will drag on for another few years, which is a disservice for anyone who has the least bit of interest in the procedure and its implications.

I agree, it could change a lot of people's lives...

but there is actually a lot going on in the hair loss world..

histogen: update coming in less than two months
aderans: starting phase III update coming this summer
CB: being tested for hairloss overseas...some users have seen amazing regrowth..but a better vehicle is needed
Dr. Cole: getting some regeneration of donor hair
Team Tokyo: working on real hair cloning, supposed to be to the market in 10 years or less but who knows

these are just a few...but I think finding out about Gho's treatment is a priority and needs to be settled...it's been dragging along far too long...ALSO, if we can prove it works once and for all..a lot of the US ht doctors will shut up about the claims and start working on improving treatments here, so they don't lose all their patients to Gho....this 50 graft test could change the hair loss world as we know it.

[JJJJrS]

I agree, it could change a lot of people's lives...

but there is actually a lot going on in the hair loss world..

histogen: update coming in less than two months
aderans: starting phase III update coming this summer
CB: being tested for hairloss overseas...some users have seen amazing regrowth..but a better vehicle is needed
Dr. Cole: getting some regeneration of donor hair
Team Tokyo: working on real hair cloning, supposed to be to the market in 10 years or less but who knows

You're right that there are a lot of things going on. I'm sure there are many more interesting things happening behind the scenes that we aren't even aware about but may bring the most promise in the future.

The difference between HST and those things, and this is primarily why I take such an interest in HST compared to the other topics, is that Gho's HST is available now. Not 2 years, 5 years, or 10 years down the line, but something that's out there right now and which could benefit many, many people. There's not a lot we can do to speed up the other treatments unfortunately, but we can do our best to get some concrete answers on what's available now instead of wasting time with speculation.

these are just a few...but I think finding out about Gho's treatment is a priority and needs to be settled...it's been dragging along far too long...ALSO, if we can prove it works once and for all..a lot of the US ht doctors will shut up about the claims and start working on improving treatments here, so they don't lose all their patients to Gho....this 50 graft test could change the hair loss world as we know it.

I couldn't agree more. This is exactly how I feel and why I think it's important to think of the bigger picture. The current options offered by the hair loss industry are stale and limited. Regardless of what side of the fence you sit on with regards to HST, anyone who genuinely wants to see progress in this industry or real answers will benefit from this, even if they don't realize it yet.