The 50 Graft Test Procedure

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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    Originally posted by didi
    Iron man should leave thread which talk abt 50 grafts test, he was not contributing $$
    Did you loser constribute anything? No.

    And I knew in advance that something like "constributing some bucks" will never happen - and it didn't happen.

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    • james bald
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 15

      hi guys,

      about the spot where to place the grafts... I think it's best to discuss that with the doctor.

      I think it will be either the sides as Didi suggested or the lower right area which IM pointed out.

      I'll mention also the importance of this procedure, so that they will provide good pre en post pictures, hence it's also in their interest if they can provide solid proof.

      Thanks arashi for welcoming me on the forum and for your help.

      cheers,

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        Hehe. Clearly you guys have no intention of stopping your fighting. As long as James keeps posting his pictures I don't really care.

        Anyway, I'm spending WAY too much time on these damn forums lately, going to enjoy what's left of my weekend. See you tomorrow.

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        • didi
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1360

          I see no issues with it..its straightforward 50 grafts procedure, good quality pre/post op photos will be the key, implant grafts in red square area and its really simple.

          GC was perfect case for 50 grafts test, not anymore


          if they cant document this small test procedure it means they are all morons, seriously

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            Originally posted by james bald
            hi guys,

            about the spot where to place the grafts... I think it's best to discuss that with the doctor.
            Exactly. Kristel knows best where to place them and how it will affect your outcome.

            Thanks arashi for welcoming me on the forum and for your help.

            cheers,
            You're welcome, thanks for helping us out and all the best of luck tomorrow ! I'm out, see you tomorrow.

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            • didi
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1360

              James, just tell them you want 25 grafts in each corner as per photo, thats by far the best area, Arashi also said it..

              it will be too easy, it wont affect your look or anything, it is a very small number of grafts.

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                Originally posted by didi
                James, just tell them you want 25 grafts in each corner as per photo, thats by far the best area, Arashi also said it..

                it will be too easy, it wont affect your look or anything, it is a very small number of grafts.
                Lastly I'm going to say, that if Kristel can do this in such a way that it's not only of benefit to us but also to you, by enhancing your hairline, then this would be the way to go for sure. But again, discuss with Kristel, she'll know best. I'm really out now. Ciao.

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  Originally posted by james bald

                  I'll mention also the importance of this procedure, so that they will provide good pre en post pictures, hence it's also in their interest if they can provide solid proof.
                  Yeah, would be a good thing when THEY themselves could provide something like this once upon a time. Because so far - they provided actually ZERO, at least, concerning this part of the story. On the other hand, it was the best what they could do so far...he he...because about what else should we talk everywhere besides always "Gho" and "HST"? lol

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                  • didi
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1360

                    James

                    Explain to kristel the importance of this test.

                    Also dont forget to tell her that you want;
                    17 singles
                    17 doubles
                    17 triplets



                    Its very important, also makes sure you take good pictures of petri dish where we can see ALL the grafts extracted.

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                    • 534623
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1854

                      Originally posted by didi
                      James

                      Explain to kristel the importance of this test.

                      Also dont forget to tell her that you want;
                      17 singles
                      17 doubles
                      17 triplets



                      Its very important, also makes sure you take good pictures of petri dish where we can see ALL the grafts extracted.
                      Is that also something you intend to do with your Nigam test-procedure?
                      Do you think Dr. Nigam will find 17 "triplets" in a small area anywhere in your "donor area"?

                      I think we should check this out in advance, didi - please post some close-up photos of your donor area. Thanks in advance.

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                      • didi
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1360

                        i might go for gho is successfull.
                        1 procedure with gho(if it wrks), 6 months after hst I ll go for nigams if he proves his technique

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                        • 534623
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1854

                          Originally posted by didi
                          i might go for gho is successfull.
                          1 procedure with gho(if it wrks), 6 months after hst I ll go for nigams if he proves his technique
                          I think you will go nowhere - a girl like you will end-up on forums without doing anything like those useless zombies at hairsite. That's what will happen with you.

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                          • JJJJrS
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 638

                            Hi James,

                            Thank you for registering on the forum!

                            The most important thing for your procedure tomorrow is to evaluate the effectiveness of HST. Everything should be done with that goal in mind.

                            Some general advice I can give:

                            - When implanting the grafts, I'd recommend as close to a slick bald area as possible so that there is minimal confusion between implanted and pre-existing hairs. I think the temple points that didi suggested are a good spot if you don't mind putting the grafts there. If that doesn't work, I'm sure you can find a relatively bare area in the crown and hairline somewhere that is around ~2 cm^2.

                            - The most important thing is the quality of the photos. I read that HASCI was prepared to get professional photographers and if that's the case, I'm sure they'll do an excellent job. But just in case, I'd encourage you to take photos on your own. For examples of good pictures, please refer to gc83uk's photos and Iron_Man's photos. In both cases, you can zoom in very closely and see great details about the individual hair units. In your case, it should be easier because the area you will monitor will be much smaller. Please practice taking photographs on your own, share them with the forum and see if you can replicate the previous photos. If you can, the forum posters here will be able to evaluate your results and you won't have to wait for HASCI's professional photographers.

                            - Two important things I'd stress: the first is to get a very good before photo of your monitored donor and reference area. Everything depends on this photo so it is critically important that the quality of these photos are very high, whether from HASCI's photographers or yourself. You can only take them once and after the procedure you lose that opportunity. Again, please refer to the photos above of what type of quality you need. Secondly, throughout the process, you must occasionally shave the donor and recipient areas so that the results will be clear. This shouldn't be a problem considering how small the areas will be. If the hairs are too long, it's very difficult to count and keep track of everything.

                            - When extracting grafts from the donor, try to get a mixture of 1-hair, 2-hair, and 3-hair units. Try to keep the area relatively small (2-5 cm^2), and with minimal white-dot scars.

                            All the best with your procedure tomorrow! This is the first time HST will be documented in such detail publicly. The results of your procedure will make a huge difference in the hair loss world!

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                            • aim4hair
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 437

                              Originally posted by didi
                              James

                              Explain to kristel the importance of this test.

                              Also dont forget to tell her that you want;
                              17 singles
                              17 doubles
                              17 triplets



                              Its very important, also makes sure you take good pictures of petri dish where we can see ALL the grafts extracted.
                              If they gonna implant the 50 grafts in his hairline then most likely all of them will be singes..

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                              • didi
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1360

                                James will tell them to extract 17/17/17

                                its not hairline, look at the pic, red square..

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