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  • FearTheLoss
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1581

    HST in the United States

    When will doctors in the United States begin using the HST method from Dr. Gho? In the interview with Spencer he said he offers training..
  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    #2
    You should watch/listen THIS INTERVIEW ...

    ... and you will get your answers - straight from Dr. Gho's mouth.

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    • Gandolf
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 198

      #3
      The basic gist is that Gho uses a formula to soak the grafts in between harvesting them and implanting them into the recipient area, and the formula contains a substance that is banned in the USA. The formula aids in the growth of the stemcells when they are implanted into the recipient. It shouldn't be a big deal, there are many places in Europe and Asia where this component is not banned, the only thing that kind of sucks right now is the exchange rates with the dollar getting killed lately so it makes the procedure more expensive for a US patient relative to the price if US doctors were able to do the procedure. To me, if the procedure is as good as it's claimed to be, the extra price of going overseas justifies the travel expense and exchange rates but it depends individually on your own budget.

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      • FearTheLoss
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 1581

        #4
        Originally posted by 534623
        You should watch/listen THIS INTERVIEW ...

        ... and you will get your answers - straight from Dr. Gho's mouth.
        very informative interview ironman..thanks for that link, I appreciate it.

        The one thing it doesn't answer though, is WHY won't the FDA approve the "fertilizer" ?

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #5
          Originally posted by Gandolf
          The basic gist is that Gho uses a formula to soak the grafts in between harvesting them and implanting them into the recipient area, and the formula contains a substance that is banned in the USA. The formula aids in the growth of the stemcells when they are implanted into the recipient. It shouldn't be a big deal, there are many places in Europe and Asia where this component is not banned, the only thing that kind of sucks right now is the exchange rates with the dollar getting killed lately so it makes the procedure more expensive for a US patient relative to the price if US doctors were able to do the procedure. To me, if the procedure is as good as it's claimed to be, the extra price of going overseas justifies the travel expense and exchange rates but it depends individually on your own budget.
          Is the formula banned in Canada as well?

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          • FearTheLoss
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 1581

            #6
            Originally posted by hellouser
            Is the formula banned in Canada as well?
            thats a damn good question, just throw one of the clinics right across the border

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              #7
              Originally posted by FearTheLoss
              thats a damn good question, just throw one of the clinics right across the border
              I'd go in for a consultation *for sure* if it were in Canada. God damn man, I so badly want to go all out with a procedure with Gho....

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              • 534623
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1854

                #8
                Originally posted by FearTheLoss

                The one thing it doesn't answer though, is WHY won't the FDA approve the "fertilizer" ?
                This is easy to explain - straight from the FDA's website ...

                Compounded drugs can serve an important medical need for certain patients, they also present a risk to patients.

                *****************************
                "Pharmacy Compounding

                Pharmacy compounding is a practice in which a licensed pharmacist combines, mixes, or alters ingredients in response to a prescription to create a medication tailored to the medical needs of an individual patient.

                It's also a practice that is under scrutiny by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) because of instances in which medications, primarily injectable medications that are intended to be sterile, have endangered public health.

                Pharmacy compounding can serve an important public health need if a patient cannot be treated with an FDA-approved medication. For example, pharmacy compounding may occur if a patient needs a medication to be made without a certain dye because of an allergy. Or an elderly patient or a child may need a medicine in a liquid or suppository form that is not otherwise available.
                "
                *****************************

                Dr. Gho, for instance, doesn't use any harmful components in his "fertilizer mix" and most, if not all, single component of this "mix" is FDA approved. BUT the FDA simply doesn't know what Dr. Gho's "fertilizer MIX" as such is doing. The problem is simply the "compounding" part, which recently got even more public attention due to some cases of death in the US, because pharma companies simply sold compounded medications.

                As mentioned, Dr. Gho's "fertilizer" as such doesn't contain something special at all - BUT it's the combination of all these rather harmless components what makes it a "new final product" as such and indeed special - that's the good news on one hand, the bad news concerning FDA rules on the other hand.

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                • FearTheLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1581

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 534623
                  This is easy to explain - straight from the FDA's website ...

                  Compounded drugs can serve an important medical need for certain patients, they also present a risk to patients.

                  *****************************
                  "Pharmacy Compounding

                  Pharmacy compounding is a practice in which a licensed pharmacist combines, mixes, or alters ingredients in response to a prescription to create a medication tailored to the medical needs of an individual patient.

                  It's also a practice that is under scrutiny by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) because of instances in which medications, primarily injectable medications that are intended to be sterile, have endangered public health.

                  Pharmacy compounding can serve an important public health need if a patient cannot be treated with an FDA-approved medication. For example, pharmacy compounding may occur if a patient needs a medication to be made without a certain dye because of an allergy. Or an elderly patient or a child may need a medicine in a liquid or suppository form that is not otherwise available.
                  "
                  *****************************

                  Dr. Gho, for instance, doesn't use any harmful components in his "fertilizer mix" and most, if not all, single component of this "mix" is FDA approved. BUT the FDA simply doesn't know what Dr. Gho's "fertilizer MIX" as such is doing. The problem is simply the "compounding" part, which recently got even more public attention due to some cases of death in the US, because pharma companies simply sold compounded medications.

                  As mentioned, Dr. Gho's "fertilizer" as such doesn't contain something special at all - BUT it's the combination of all these rather harmless components what makes it a "new final product" as such and indeed special - that's the good news on one hand, the bad news concerning FDA rules on the other hand.

                  So basically it will never come to the United States because it can't be FDA approved and Gho isn't even trying to get it FDA approved?

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                  • 534623
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1854

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                    So basically it will never come to the United States because it can't be FDA approved and Gho isn't even trying to get it FDA approved?
                    Doing clinical trails in the US for Dr. Gho's fertilizer - I think doing this wouldn't basically a problem at all (simply injecting the stuff into around 500 patients scalps and looking whether or not they are still alive today and dead tomorrow lol); I think Dr. Gho simply doesn't want doing it, because if he would, in this case, of course he must tell the FDA all "compounding secrets". And as soon as the FDA knows it - all snakes out there would know it.

                    So there are also "intellectual properties problems" involved, I think.

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                    • Vox
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 298

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 534623
                      So there are also "intellectual properties problems" involved, I think.
                      But his technique is patented, no?

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                      • Vox
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 298

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 534623
                        The problem is simply the "compounding" part, which recently got even more public attention due to some cases of death in the US, because pharma companies simply sold compounded medications.
                        Very interesting. As far as I know, compounding is standard practice in Belgium and the Netherlands, especially for dermatological applications; it is very common.

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                        • UK_
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2691

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 534623
                          You should watch/listen THIS INTERVIEW ...

                          ... and you will get your answers - straight from Dr. Gho's mouth.
                          If Gho is the answer why are you still here? Go cure ur hair loss Iron_Man and stop payng attention for Histogen updates LOL.

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                          • FearTheLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1581

                            #14
                            Originally posted by UK_
                            If Gho is the answer why are you still here? Go cure ur hair loss Iron_Man and stop payng attention for Histogen updates LOL.
                            Gho is the answer if you have the time and money..I think we can all agree on that, but if you are already nw7 then it would take something like 7 years and a chunk out of the pocket to become a nw2

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