HST needs improvements- suggestions?

[JJJJrS]

I think they're probably afraid to push the procedure because it's still a new procedure which is developing and is only offered in one place. They know that if a couple of patients go online with scarring or no regeneration, it will cause a lot of harm to their reputation. So it's more of a precaution than anything else.

To expand a little bit on this point, for both of gc83uk's first two procedures HASCI extracted 700 grafts. In the third procedure however, they extracted 1.6k grafts, more than the first two procedures combined! So why didn't they offer 1.6k from the beginning? If they did, gc would already have 4.8k grafts and be well on his way to a full restoration.

I think you noticed this as well, but they seem to treat a patient's first procedure almost as a "test" to evaluate how the patient reacts, i.e., do they develop any scarring, how does the donor look, is recipient yield high. My hope is that they develop a comfort-level and acceptance such that these "test procedures" won't be necessary, and patients can get a higher graft count from the beginning.

[didi]

'I think they're probably afraid to push the procedure because it's still a new procedure which is developing and is only offered in one place. They know that if a couple of patients go online with scarring or no regeneration, it will cause a lot of harm to their reputation. So it's more of a precaution than anything else'

Its not really a new procedure, its been around since 2005, 8th year..but started offering bigger sessions couple of years ago



I definately think they should and can decrease time between procedures for younger patients,

think about it, if 6 year old kid have a cut on his body and 97 yr old have the same cut, will they need the same amount of time to heal? This is extreme case just to ilustrate the point,

this 9 month waiting period is insane, one size fits all sucks

[didi]

these 2500/3000 graft cases are not common, maybe a few lucky patients in 100 gets them..

I wonder if HASCI will increase IMs next procedure.

so how the hell GC managed to get procedure 6 months apart and have half of his donor harvested? its goes againt everything Gho preaches

[534623]

If you look at the analysis from the third procedure, extraction site #87 from the second procedure, labelled as #94(87) in the third procedure, did not regenerate.

Here you have it - one more reason not to extract too close to each other and too often - lol

Anyway, seems "I thought" it regenerated again (I didn't compare it with day-8 or day-24) because I've just pre-encircled gc's day-2 photo as "extracted a second time" (cyan) what's correct. But now we know it didn't regenerate a second time. And why didn't the technician "extract" the 3-hair graft above these extractions sites, which they never extracted before? So the hairless gap is now even bigger ...
I think the reason is because they "think" it will regenerate anyhow.

[garethbale]

essentially this is the cure to hairloss, the technique just needs to be perfected...because this can turn a nw7 into a nw1 full head of hair.

I doubt that would be possible.

I did enquire if that was a possibility and was told that, while they can regenerate donor hairs, it was not possible to recreate the full NW1 look

[FearTheLoss]

I doubt that would be possible.

I did enquire if that was a possibility and was told that, while they can regenerate donor hairs, it was not possible to recreate the full NW1 look

Yes, that's because they don't do nw1 hairlines..if you listened to Gho's interview with Spencer

[garethbale]

Yes, that's because they don't do nw1 hairlines..if you listened to Gho's interview with Spencer

What do you mean? What is a full head of hair, if not a NW1?

No I haven't listened to the interview...

[FearTheLoss]

I mean a reasonably dense nw2....nw1 looks unnatural when you get older

[FearTheLoss]

What do you mean? What is a full head of hair, if not a NW1?

No I haven't listened to the interview...

And in the interview, I believe, he said it would take about 9 years to change a nw7 to a nw2

[534623]

What do you mean? What is a full head of hair, if not a NW1?

This is a NW-1 hairline…

FULL SIZE: http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/...month-mark.jpg

I’m not kidding. I have just passed the 2-month-mark and have just taken some photos.

Anyway, what you can see at the moment (2 month after) is practically my “natural” hairline (I know it still looks shit - so don't grill me!), because in the early 90s, of course, besides the temple areas somewhat, they also tried to recreate with a few grafts my natural hairline – my hairline was never ever deeper in my life.

So what you can see at the moment is a “mix” of

- a few pre-existing hairs
- still growing HST hairs
- and of course still a lot of “air” just 2 month after...

…because I lost during the past 2 month around 70% (+/-) of the new implanted HST hairs. So I hope I can show you a pretty good result in 8-10 month or so…

btw - what’s pretty interesting:
As you can see, there is small vertical white scar in middle of my hairline (widow's-peak area towards my nose) – can you see it?
Anyway, I told them they should try to implant 1-2 single hairs into this small scar and 1 single HST hair is still growing in the scar! I also just took a photo with my USB microscope of this single hair in the scar – here it is …

[garethbale]

This is a NW-1 hairline…
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…because I lost during the past 2 month around 70% (+/-) of the new implanted HST hairs. So I hope I can show you a pretty good result in 8-10 month or so…

You lost 70%?!

Will that grow back.

I am considering Gho but I am a NW2 at the moment hoping to go down a norwood. Do you think its possible for Gho to do this and me still be able to wear my hair reasonably long (around 1 inch)

I don't look good with a shaven head.

[534623]

You lost 70%?!

Will that grow back.

No.
But it was a pleasure to see an almost full head of hair front area at least for around 1 week.

[garethbale]

No.
But it was a pleasure to see an almost full head of hair front area at least for around 1 week.

ok I guess that's sarcasm...

[534623]

ok I guess that's sarcasm...

sure (hopefully)...

By the way...

I am a NW2 at the moment hoping to go down a norwood. Do you think its possible for Gho to do this and me still be able to wear my hair reasonably long (around 1 inch)

I don't look good with a shaven head.

As you can see, of course this is possible, as long as you do not need more than around 700-800 grafts or so.
In gc's case, as far as I remember, they just shaved an 1 inch wide strip from ear to to to get 700 HST grafts - so it IS possible, of course.

[garethbale]

sure (hopefully)...

By the way...


As you can see, of course this is possible, as long as you do not need more than around 700-800 grafts or so.
In gc's case, as far as I remember, they just shaved an 1 inch wide strip from ear to to to get 700 HST grafts - so it IS possible, of course.

ok thanks...so I can leave my hair longer and have the procedure? I really don't want colleagues at work to know

I'm not sure how many grafts i need...probably need to cover about 2 square inches on each temple.