Who is testing/developing Histogen? How do we get in on it?

[gmonasco]

It will succeed by 2013. The keys have been unlocked. Of that I am certain and I've staked my pension on their success!

That's exactly what Henry Ford II said about the Edsel ...

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Too right I did, and when I get my company pension transferred from my previous job I'll invest some more in Histogen and some in Aderans to spread the risk.

If this works out, it will be huge and certainly worth a $20,000 punt.

[KeepTheHair]

You have? lol did you buy shares?


Fixed, do you use any instant message or other services. I'd like to chat to you more some time.

Let me know.

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It will succeed by 2013. The keys have been unlocked. Of that I am certain and I've staked my pension on their success!

[gmonasco]

Objectively, at this time there simply isn't enough documentation to say that HSC is really anything more than a concept. It has a long way to go before becoming a marketable product, and it's far from certain that HSC will ever reach that point.

[KeepTheHair]

I agree with what you said. But I really do think we can somewhat count on it in the long run.

I think HT should definitely be an option still and one should not simply say "im going to wait"


You both make really good points

[gmonasco]

My only concern with hair transplants now is whether the pain is necessary when Histogen is going to hit the market soon enough.

a) There are no guarantees that Histogen's HSC is going to "hit the market" ever, much less within the next few years.

b) It has not yet been demonstrated that HSC is a safe and effective treatment for ameliorating significant (or even minor) hair loss.

Everybody wants something to hope and believe in, but banking on HSC at this point is really jumping the gun.

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You shouldn't be ashamed of being open about your fight with hair loss. If someone fails to understand why you do it, you can point out:

1) They wash and brush their hair every day. Isn't that just as vain? Why not shave it off if baldness is so great anyway?

2) They spend money trying to improve areas of their body they don't like. Women also use make up regularly. Why bother, other than for vanity?

3) If they're not losing their hair, then they don't have a clue how it feels.

4) If they are losing their hair, isn't it just as insecure to shave their heads in a desperate attempt to look trendy (they really really don't - they look bald, end of)?

[KeepTheHair]

Oh and does anyone know anything about it possibly interfering with transplanted areas?

[KeepTheHair]

haha... yeah

Really though, I can't really see myself waiting 3 years...though it is probably going to happen...


If I can get a successful transplant without too much hassle and if it wont interfere with histogen then it will definitely be worth it...

But its such a hassle to travel, tell everyone what the hell your up to and so on...

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I'm confident that I'll have a reasonable head of hair by age 32. I'll be young enough to enjoy it awhile and I'll live my youth in my thirties. The way I look at it, I'll have already lived out my 40s in my 20s. I'll just live my decades in a different order!

[KeepTheHair]

Well...paying $10k to repair my hairline would be great. Even if its just 2 years I get extra in my youth to look good. I think 2000 grafts on the hairline for me would do wonders... it will restore a lot of the damage. My hair right now is a big joke...

Everyone "notices" it. I can see it on their faces... mehhh I've somewhat gotten used to it but you know it gets to me.

I am seriously considering FUE right now. You do bring up some good points...

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My only concern with hair transplants now is whether the pain is necessary when Histogen is going to hit the market soon enough. Also, I worry that Histogen might not work as well in areas that have been so manipulated by surgery.

[KeepTheHair]

I am seriously considering getting 2000 or so grafts on the hairline done...

edit: FUE grafts


I am pretty sure propecia + fluridil should be able to hold what I have... or at least I hope so.

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I would very much doubt that anything will be available before the end of 2013 now. You have to give any new product a couple of years at least for safety trials.

However, if its any consolation, my recent research indicates that Propecia and PRP are a lot more effective than I earlier believed. One of the UKs leading dermatologists believes it has a success rate of around 99% and can typically be expected to increase hair density by up to 15%, with failings attributed to men giving up with it because they didn't get a miracle or they got lazy.

I'll try and find his name; he is reputable.